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FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:17 AM Jul 2012

If You're Holding A Sign With An Aborted Fetus On It, You'd Better Be Able To Answer This Question

(WARNING: This video features abortion protesters who are holding posters with the usual disturbing fetus images on them. Close your eyes and just listen if that sort of thing bothers you.)

Only in the beginning of video and right at the end are visuals of a late-term abortion on protestors signs.



I don't think any of these answers would stand up in a court of law.
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If You're Holding A Sign With An Aborted Fetus On It, You'd Better Be Able To Answer This Question (Original Post) FarLeftFist Jul 2012 OP
Honestly, if someone said "send them to jail" I would have more respect for them than the yahoos Brickbat Jul 2012 #1
That second woman knows the right punishment... Pray for them! Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #2
Sad how these people think making something illegal will stop society from doing it. FarLeftFist Jul 2012 #3
It's part of that whole EC Jul 2012 #18
They have to know there would be a whole new black market created AlbertCat Jul 2012 #21
It's some of the same mentality that fuelled prohibition JHB Jul 2012 #26
data suggest d_r Jul 2012 #30
God called her to protest but didn't tell her what to do to women who have illegal abortions proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #4
And this God that called her...did he/she/it use a cell phone or a landline? Raster Jul 2012 #27
I don't suffer fools gladly. sinkingfeeling Jul 2012 #5
Ideological consumers. nt rrneck Jul 2012 #6
Well, if you look....at least in the Exodus version... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #7
They can't name the punishment because yellerpup Jul 2012 #8
Ding! Ding! Of course, every woman knows at least one woman sinkingfeeling Jul 2012 #9
When you know someone yellerpup Jul 2012 #11
they don't think of abortion as a real thing that happens to real people Johonny Jul 2012 #16
Or because they are naive enough to believe that if abortion is illegal, no one would have one. Iris Jul 2012 #24
I think that is their hope. yellerpup Jul 2012 #31
Once again these people prove it's not about life liberal N proud Jul 2012 #10
Here's a good counter to the "pizza pictures" the anti-abortionists shove in your faces. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #12
From 2008 and the YouTube debate rages on. GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #13
Wow, that is one powerful video! graywarrior Jul 2012 #14
brilliant question, and priceless responses. pnwest Jul 2012 #15
Just. Simply. Stunning. The blank looks speak volumns. Ninga Jul 2012 #17
zombie apocalypse. Lost sheep following a right wing/fundie talking head. sad - and sick. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #19
My husband had a discussion with an anti-abortion fanatic several years ago. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #20
I REMEMBER at time, not so long ago, bvar22 Jul 2012 #22
What if the mother and father find out that their baby will be born with severe mental deficiencies? AJTheMan Jul 2012 #23
No surprise that they're morons. lindysalsagal Jul 2012 #25
hmmm... dtom67 Jul 2012 #28
These women have neither a freakin clue, nor any real solution Trailrider1951 Jul 2012 #29
Surprising how none of them had an answer ailsagirl Jul 2012 #32
Alternate Question Timbuk3 Jul 2012 #33
Wow! k & r BillyJack Jul 2012 #34
I didn't watch the whole video, but do they ask about punishment for doctors? joshcryer Jul 2012 #35
I'll bet you men would be quicker to name a punishment. NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #36

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
1. Honestly, if someone said "send them to jail" I would have more respect for them than the yahoos
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jul 2012

that stand there, look thinky, and then say, "I dunno" with huge, embarrassed grins on their faces.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
2. That second woman knows the right punishment... Pray for them!
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:24 AM
Jul 2012

That will teach them to go around killing human persons!




I had to stop the video after that one. The stoopid.. It hurts!

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
3. Sad how these people think making something illegal will stop society from doing it.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:26 AM
Jul 2012

Guess they would rather both fetus AND woman die from unsafe illegal abortions.

EC

(12,287 posts)
18. It's part of that whole
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:06 PM
Jul 2012

"If it's illegal it doesn't happen" bull. They are the types that close their eyes and cover their ears and go la,la,la, can't hear you. They have to know there would be a whole new black market created and there would have to be punishments for crimes since it's illegal.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
21. They have to know there would be a whole new black market created
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 02:20 PM
Jul 2012

... similar to the ones that existed in the 1950's, 1940's...30's....20's...the entire 18th and 19th centuries......



Stupid, emotionally immature people have no sense of history ("tradition", maybe, but real history...nada) or even that the world might be different from their back yards.... or different from what their minds made up...

JHB

(37,164 posts)
26. It's some of the same mentality that fuelled prohibition
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jul 2012

Just make Demon Rum illegal because it's a Bad Thing, and then get outraged at people for flaunting the authority of the law.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
4. God called her to protest but didn't tell her what to do to women who have illegal abortions
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:28 AM
Jul 2012

I guess God will tell her that next?

Great video. Thanks.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
27. And this God that called her...did he/she/it use a cell phone or a landline?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 07:59 PM
Jul 2012

Was it a long distance call?
Did God use rollover minutes?
Just gotta know: does God prefer ATT, Verizon or T-Mobile?
Does God use an Apple or an Adroid?

Wounded Bear

(58,769 posts)
7. Well, if you look....at least in the Exodus version...
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

the 10 Commandments don't talk much about penalties, just prohibitions.

So the proper response should be, screw making laws, let God punish them.

yellerpup

(12,254 posts)
8. They can't name the punishment because
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:43 AM
Jul 2012

they all know at least one relative/friend/coworker who has had an abortion. Probably, several of these women have had abortions themselves. "They are already punished," is a good reason to drop the whole thing, IF they really believe that.

sinkingfeeling

(51,490 posts)
9. Ding! Ding! Of course, every woman knows at least one woman
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jul 2012

who has experienced an abortion! Think it's like 3 out every 10 women in this country has had one.

yellerpup

(12,254 posts)
11. When you know someone
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jul 2012

or are someone, you know why the choice was made and you know what kind of deliberation went into the decision. We don't really want to send our mothers or daughters to jail or go to jail ourselves. No, a person wouldn't want to think that far down the road.

Johonny

(20,942 posts)
16. they don't think of abortion as a real thing that happens to real people
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jul 2012

they think of it as a commandment from God to not do. Thus to them is black and white you don't do this. When you ask them about real people that really need and have abortions, they don't know what to do or think. To them people have always talked about abortion like a logical construct. It's the same thing with thy shall not kill. That's fine but ask them what you should do to a soldier at war that kills another soldier or a man on death row... they don't know they don't think of these ideas a concrete realities. If they did it wouldn't be so easy for the leaders of these organizations to stir them up into the frenzy of hate that they do. It doesn't matter if they know people that have had problems in their pregnancy they never told to think of these issues as concrete realities in your life.

Iris

(15,679 posts)
24. Or because they are naive enough to believe that if abortion is illegal, no one would have one.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jul 2012

n/t

liberal N proud

(60,352 posts)
10. Once again these people prove it's not about life
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jul 2012

Only about forcing their view on others.

They don't care what happens to those have abortions and they don't want to take care of the babies they are trying to force women to bear.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
12. Here's a good counter to the "pizza pictures" the anti-abortionists shove in your faces.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jul 2012

This woman chose to take pictures when she had her abortion, to show what the procedure really looks like.

(Warning, a little bit of blood, but this isn't the gorefest that you see in the "pizza" pictures)

http://www.thisismyabortion.com/

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
15. brilliant question, and priceless responses.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jul 2012

Strong! I love the uh, uh, uh, deer in the headlights responses. They truly have not thought beyond what they're told to.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. My husband had a discussion with an anti-abortion fanatic several years ago.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 02:20 PM
Jul 2012

That man insisted that the death penalty was the only appropriate punishment. Finally, my husband asked him "If your daughter got pregnant and had an abortion, would you want her to face the death penalty?" The man just stood there in stunned silence.

These people really don't understand that social policies that help families, mothers in difficult pregnancies and single mothers by educating and empowering them work better than criminal punishment.

Women have abortions for many reasons. But these fanatics don't look beyond the obvious.

Another example of short-sightedness on the right. It takes a willingness to look beyond the surface to find intelligent answers to our problems.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
22. I REMEMBER at time, not so long ago,
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jul 2012

when abortion WAS illegal.
Every day, young women were dying in back alleys from botched abortions.
This tragedy touched almost every extended family at some level.
It even intruded into the bubble of The Rich way too often.
Many of the RICH did send their pregnant daughters to a month long "vacation" in Switzerland,
but some didn't make it,
enough so that the law was changes to Save Lives.

The move to legalize abortion was NOT based on "Morality", "Choice", or "Values".
It was done to STOP the Bloody Carnage and wasted lives of our daughters, nieces, and friends.

AJTheMan

(288 posts)
23. What if the mother and father find out that their baby will be born with severe mental deficiencies?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

Shouldn't they be allowed to decide whether or not to have the child? Maybe this hits me personally because my aunt has two children, one with autism, and one with the worst kind of down's syndrome. (She throws feces at people) I'm just thinking, you know, if the doctor told me that my wife or girlfriend was going to have a child with some awful disease....I would strongly consider getting an abortion. Because I see how hard it is on people whenever they have children with rare diseases. I was watching a documentary about a child born with childhood onset schizophrenia. Her parents have to have two apartments, one for their normal baby boy, and one for their six year old daughter. They do this because the voices tell her to kill her brother all the time. So most of the time, the parents are split up, living in one apartment or another. The dad had this drugged look, like he was obviously on some strong antidepressants. I mean life can be hard if you don't really take this stuff into account.

lindysalsagal

(20,785 posts)
25. No surprise that they're morons.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 07:38 PM
Jul 2012

Mindless followers are usually hungry, frightened, hopeless, or just plain dumb.

dtom67

(634 posts)
28. hmmm...
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:15 PM
Jul 2012

I think those were pictures of my sisters murdered baby dolls. Pretty sure an actual abortion is just a small group of cells...

Trailrider1951

(3,415 posts)
29. These women have neither a freakin clue, nor any real solution
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:20 PM
Jul 2012

My solution is Planned Parenthood on every corner, Yes! at the McD's and 7-11, and free of charge, of course! Hey, you catch my drift.....Education and contraception widely available to young women makes their argument moot. Yet those things are the very things they prohibit, making abortion necessary! Why is that? Just another question they cannot answer............Maybe it's time for the Human race to move into the 21st century.

ailsagirl

(22,904 posts)
32. Surprising how none of them had an answer
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:19 PM
Jul 2012

BTW, where was these interviews done? I noticed a fair amount of honking.

Timbuk3

(872 posts)
33. Alternate Question
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 12:34 AM
Jul 2012

"Should women who have an abortion get life in prison, or the death penalty?"

There isn't a crime on the books that doesn't come with a penalty. Give them a $5 fine? What does that say about the position that "abortion is murder"?

Seriously, if we make abortion a crime equivalent to murder, the doc AND the woman should be facing the penalty for murder; depending on the state life in prison or death by lethal injection. To say that abortion is murder and then insist otherwise when it comes to doling out the penalty is the epitome of hypocrisy.

Let's try another alternate question. "If abortion is murder, shouldn't the doctor (the murderer) face the same penalty as any other murderer, and should the woman face the same sort of penalty that a wife who hires a hitman to kill her husband faces?"

I'm so tired of "holier than thou, called by God" fucks telling me, or anyone else, how to live their life...

joshcryer

(62,287 posts)
35. I didn't watch the whole video, but do they ask about punishment for doctors?
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 12:56 AM
Jul 2012

Because I wonder if that would garner a different response.

NYC Liberal

(20,138 posts)
36. I'll bet you men would be quicker to name a punishment.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 12:56 AM
Jul 2012

Men know they'll never have to make that decision, or be faced with carrying a pregnancy.

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