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Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
Wed May 10, 2017, 11:10 AM May 2017

Sooo, show of hands, how many think Rosenstein has already sold out his ethics...

integrity and soul to FF45 by signing off on the excuses to fire Comey.

Whether his firing was justified, is beside the point, he was, but did this guy sell out by backing the timing and manner?

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Sooo, show of hands, how many think Rosenstein has already sold out his ethics... (Original Post) Thomas Hurt May 2017 OP
My hand is up. nt jrthin May 2017 #1
Please change this to a poll. I vote sell out. n/t rzemanfl May 2017 #2
Seems so. Why else would he sign his name to that letter? The Wielding Truth May 2017 #3
Mine is up too. BigMin28 May 2017 #4
If he indeed signed on, he is a sellout. LOL Lib May 2017 #5
He wouldn't have this... 2naSalit May 2017 #8
Both hands up and flailing! 2naSalit May 2017 #6
I'm guessing he signed whatever was drafted for him and placed on his desk by Bannon and Co. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #7
It certainly appears that way. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #9
i imagine trump demands loyalty from all.... spanone May 2017 #10
Depends, has he ever been to Russia at ANY point in his life? BannonsLiver May 2017 #11
By definition, anyone who accepts a job working for Trump has to sign a document librechik May 2017 #12
Having heard Sen Whitehouse last night Shanti Mama May 2017 #13
Bannon runs his own version of Kompromat collection... MedusaX May 2017 #14
Doing the Horseshack oooh oooh oooh here! hamsterjill May 2017 #15
Indeed, he did. H2O Man May 2017 #16
Both hands are up! But did Rosenstein write the letter? What to do about him? Dana Zhukova May 2017 #17
sold out - paid off - threatened. Hand up. NRaleighLiberal May 2017 #18
Welcome to DU! DesertRat May 2017 #20
my dogs have their hands up, too. mopinko May 2017 #19
My hand is up onecaliberal May 2017 #21
Absolutely! nt avebury May 2017 #22
I think he did all that when he joined this administration, Hortensis May 2017 #23
He's a modern Robert Bork. Foamfollower May 2017 #24

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
5. If he indeed signed on, he is a sellout.
Wed May 10, 2017, 11:15 AM
May 2017

We have to remember that Drumpf lies, sessions lies...it is possible that rosenstein's name is being used against his will. The trump and sessions mob are probably acting alone and threatening the deputy ag.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,085 posts)
7. I'm guessing he signed whatever was drafted for him and placed on his desk by Bannon and Co.
Wed May 10, 2017, 11:17 AM
May 2017

He's a company man, through and through.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,276 posts)
9. It certainly appears that way.
Wed May 10, 2017, 11:20 AM
May 2017

It probably went down something like this:

SCROTUS: I want to fire Comey.

RR: He has a ten-year appointment; he can't be fired without cause.

SCROTUS: Then find a reason.

RR: Well, he got a lot of criticism for the way he handled the Clinton email matter, but...

SCROTUS: Then I'll fire him for that reason. That way the Democrats won't complain.

RR: But you liked it when he did that. They'll see right through it.

SCROTUS: No, they won't. They hate Comey. Write the letter.

RR: But it's not a very good...

SCROTUS: WRITE THE DAMN LETTER. You wanna be in the same boat with Comey? And that Sally chick?

RR: No, sir.

SCROTUS: Then do it. Now.

RR: Yes, sir.

librechik

(30,663 posts)
12. By definition, anyone who accepts a job working for Trump has to sign a document
Wed May 10, 2017, 11:28 AM
May 2017

written in blood at midnight and sealed with the Devil's own brand (somewhere inconspicuous) to forget he has a soul.

In fact, all Republicans do that anyway. Just without the ceremony.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
14. Bannon runs his own version of Kompromat collection...
Wed May 10, 2017, 11:39 AM
May 2017

Pretty sure nobody without a "file" &/or a "tape"
Held by Russia or Bannon

gets a job offer....

You know....
Extreme vetting to ensure candidates are manageable...
don't need any internal resistance

Dana Zhukova

(2 posts)
17. Both hands are up! But did Rosenstein write the letter? What to do about him?
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:00 PM
May 2017

I agree with almost everything Rosenstein said but his letter was the strangest thing I've ever seen from someone in his position. The fact of the letter, what it purports to do, and its substance make Rosenstein's function clear. Stooge.

Rosenstein's letter is so much like other letters from this administration, in its style, its conclusory statements, its emotionalism, its unsupported judgments, its use of non-legal arguments, the way it refers to 'universal judgment'--it's easy to believe that someone else wrote it. Someone who is not a lawyer. It's written like something a non-lawyer would think a lawyer would write. Someone like a Miller or Bannon or even Kellyane who, despite being a lawyer, doesn't make arguments like an experienced lawyer would. What on earth was Rosenstein thinking?

This whole business of 'letters advising president requiring his action' to legitimize president's action wasn't believable when they did it to support the Muslim ban and it's not believable now. This ritual of marshaling evidence & support for a decision after the decision is made rather than making a decision in response to evidence is a deception that is difficult for anyone to successfully challenge. The advantage of making a paper trail after the fact (or contemporaneously w/the fact) is that after the fact--there's a paper trail.

Now the problem is: What's to be done about Rosenstein?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. I think he did all that when he joined this administration,
Wed May 10, 2017, 01:11 PM
May 2017

agreeing to serve under Sessions. The rest is just following orders.


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