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Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
Fri May 5, 2017, 02:42 PM May 2017

This day in history: May 5th: Blame the Jews Day (1881)

Four years of pogroms against Jews in Ukraine and southern Russia were set in motion on this date in 1881 by mobs of peasants who attacked Jewish stores and homes in the Ukrainian villages of Konsky-rosdor, Popiko, Andreyevka, and the city Orekhov, after Jews were incorrectly blamed for the assassination of Tsar Alexander II by Narodnaya Volya on March 13th. Through the spring and summer the rioting would spread to Odessa and other sites, large and small, and after a brief remission, to Warsaw on Christmas Day and to Balta on Easter, 1882, with increasing ferocity and casualties, including many rapes and deaths. “In Belorussia and Lithuania,” according to Jewish Virtual Library, “where the local authorities adopted a firm attitude against the rioters, large fires broke out in many towns and townlets; a considerable number of these were started by the enemies of the Jews.

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The Pogroms were just starting, and eventually end up with the displacing, raping, and murdering of thousands of Jews in Ukraine, Russia, and the Settlement of the Pale. It also was the start of the Jews fleeing to other parts of Europe, which would prove fatal for many, and more fleeing to the US and Canada.

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This day in history: May 5th: Blame the Jews Day (1881) (Original Post) Behind the Aegis May 2017 OP
Thank you for posting. Rustyeye77 May 2017 #1
Thank you for kicking this! Behind the Aegis May 2017 #4
oH...My Pleasure Rustyeye77 May 2017 #19
Between 1881 and 1910, about two million Jews fled DavidDvorkin May 2017 #2
I had thought the second largest was Canada. Behind the Aegis May 2017 #5
I'm basing that on something I remember reading DavidDvorkin May 2017 #11
one of the jews melm00se May 2017 #12
Strange foreigners fleeing violence DavidDvorkin May 2017 #15
Kick and remember Hekate May 2017 #3
K&R ismnotwasm May 2017 #6
Kick And Rec Warren DeMontague May 2017 #7
Remember - those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Initech May 2017 #8
YOURE DAMN RIGHT !!! Rustyeye77 May 2017 #18
Recommended. Thanks for the timely reminder. beam me up scottie May 2017 #9
That's when my grandparents came to the US Madam Mossfern May 2017 #10
I heard very few stories. Behind the Aegis May 2017 #16
Same stories from my GM. Rustyeye77 May 2017 #20
If The Technology Had Existed, I Bet They Would Have Set Up A Phone Line........ ChoppinBroccoli May 2017 #13
K&R nt NCTraveler May 2017 #14
K&R smirkymonkey May 2017 #17

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
4. Thank you for kicking this!
Sat May 6, 2017, 08:58 PM
May 2017

It garnered 6 more recommendations because of your comment.

I really appreciate it.

DavidDvorkin

(19,474 posts)
2. Between 1881 and 1910, about two million Jews fled
Sat May 6, 2017, 05:34 PM
May 2017

The largest number settled in the US, second largest in the UK (my grandparents), most of the others in other English-speaking countries, but a substantial number in Germany and other Western European countries.

The effect on the West was profound.

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
5. I had thought the second largest was Canada.
Sat May 6, 2017, 09:03 PM
May 2017

I must have remembered wrong (it has been a long while since I actually looked at those stats). I remember (hopefully, correctly this time), there was also a large number who went to Latin America. I know parts of my grandmother's family and grandfather's family came to the US at that time. The others remained in the area (all gone), and a few went to Lithuania, and Poland (also gone).

DavidDvorkin

(19,474 posts)
11. I'm basing that on something I remember reading
Sat May 6, 2017, 11:42 PM
May 2017

But my memory for such details has never been entirely precise. Or unentirely. So you could well be right.

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
12. one of the jews
Sat May 6, 2017, 11:59 PM
May 2017

who came during this time was Israel Isidore Baline better known as Irving Berlin, arguably one of the greatest American song writers. in addition to Berlin, the Gershwin, Jolson, Mayer, and the Warner families came to America because of these pogroms

DavidDvorkin

(19,474 posts)
15. Strange foreigners fleeing violence
Sun May 7, 2017, 12:09 AM
May 2017

Bringing their strange language, culture, and folkways to a new land.

Clearly, nothing good ever comes from letting them in.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
10. That's when my grandparents came to the US
Sat May 6, 2017, 11:07 PM
May 2017

They would never talk about the "old country" and were very proud Americans.

My grandmother, did however, mention that the Cossacks rode into their houses with big sticks and hit them over the head.
I thought she was just making up scary stories.

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
16. I heard very few stories.
Sun May 7, 2017, 02:06 AM
May 2017

One from my great-aunt was that her uncle owned a bar, illegal for Jews to sell alcohol, but it has a systems of pullies and such, so when the Cossacks rode into town, the at turned into a general store. The family lived in a shtetl that was "a buggy's ride to Minsk". None of them spoke Russian, only Yiddish, but refused to teach the children because they wanted the children to speak perfect English and be "real" Americans. Sad.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
13. If The Technology Had Existed, I Bet They Would Have Set Up A Phone Line........
Sun May 7, 2017, 12:07 AM
May 2017

............to report crimes committed by Jews. Funny how history tends to repeat itself.

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