am i the only one who cant stand Ivanka Trump?

[samnsara]

...she is a bigger fake than her dad.....I cant stand to watch her or listen to her fake sweet voice and that condescending smile in between 'thoughts'.... #FirstBitch

[hlthe2b]

1. I can't stand her either... and not, just because of her father.

Her ilk are taught to wrap their internal ugliness in "soft-spoken", smiling, patronizing discourse. She's got it down to a tee.

[rzemanfl]

6. Can I take that "c" you don't need for a word I want to use about her?

Oh, wait, I can't say that here.

[hlthe2b]

7. corrected...

[rzemanfl]

8. K.

[LakeArenal]

38. Don't need it... She's a "T" word and that's worse.

[rzemanfl]

41. Here's a "w." Can I borrow a "u.?"

[kag]

62. I'll supply the "n and the t" nt

[iluvtennis]

45. +++ agree

[forgotmylogin]

64. He uses her.

He thinks that his words in her mouth and a tight dress will go over better. In certain cases, he's probably not incorrect, but the whole idea is wrong.

[Phoenix61]

2. Nope!

I've never been fond of spoiled, bratty princess types.

[madaboutharry]

3. First of all, the word "bitch" is always offensive.

Other than that, no you are not the only one who can't stand her. Her fake voice is particularly obnoxious.

She is affected and phony and has skated through life being pretty and as Lisa Bloom has said "being daddy's little princess."

[Rorey]

13. Yeah, I think I had a post disappear for using that word

So I learned my lesson.

[Drahthaardogs]

33. She is not pretty

Sorry. Scarlett Johansen is pretty. Angelina Jolie is beautiful. So is Sophia Loren and Raquel Welch. Ivanka is "I spent daddy's millions on plastic surgery and still look kind of weird.". She is not ugly, but she is no raving beauty.

[madaboutharry]

34. She thinks she's pretty and her daddy is hot for her.

That is what drives her affected persona.

I agree, there is something very unnatural about her appearance. I think some of that has to do with who she is on the inside.

[SammyWinstonJack]

39. Neither is Melania tRump. She is not ugly, but she is no raving beauty.

[deurbano]

55. She always looks mad.

[oldtime dfl_er]

61. very hard face

anyone would have a hard looking face if they had to put up with that jerk.

[QED]

69. I call her Mrs. Pouty Face

I'd pout too if I were married to that despicable creature.

[JI7]

76. actually Melania WAS pretty before the surgery to get her current face

[Egnever]

85. I don't get the plastic surgery thing

I guess you can't tell the good ones but the bad ones are so bad.

[Rorey]

70. Her head seems a bit small

I know that sounds weird. Maybe it's just camera angles.

[JI7]

78. a lot of it has to do with the plastic surgery

Combined with aging.

She had a fuller facec and all the carving and shit to get perfect angles start to look bad as one gets older.

[Drahthaardogs]

83. Not to mention her giraffe neck and giant fake titties

Crooked smile, bleached hair, fake teeth, and overly thin nose. Add to it the fake Jackie O whisper and the overunnciation of every syllable and you get Ivanka. Even her dumb ass name is phony.

[LOL Lib]

79. Agreed. She has a weird chin and weird teeth imo.

[Egnever]

84. That is just silly

By any measure she is pretty on the outside. She certainly is not the most beautiful woman on the planet but I would argue that one of your examples Angelina though gorgeous on the inside is a freak show of everything we don't want modeled for our kids with her botox lips and anorexic frame, inside she is a wonderful person but I am constantly distracted when I see her by the botoxed lips and the need to eat something and soon.

[Drahthaardogs]

88. Scientifically speaking

Angelina Jolie's features are measurable and she would qualify as beautiful. Elizabeth Hurley is almost perfect facially. Asymmetrical features are not considered beautiful. Ivanka is a a bit of a mess. She is NOT beautiful and not even pretty. She has poor symmetry. There is a science behind this if you care to delve.

[Egnever]

90. Sure show me the comparison of the two.

[Drahthaardogs]

92. Here is an article

https://sites.psu.edu/evolutionofhumansexuality/2014/03/24/facial-symmetry-and-attractiveness/

[dchill]

4. No.

[Wounded Bear]

5. I think you hit the crux of the matter...

she's as fake as her dad. She's in it for personal monetary gain.

Not an ounce of integrity in the family. None.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Remember when Giuliani's daughter endorsed President Obama.

Likely because she didn't want to follow in the family business.

[brush]

35. Her clothes are made in a Chinese sweatshop and she rips off other shoe designers. She's a phoney...

who tries to project empathy towards women's rights while paying peanuts to the women making her clothes.

She's as big a hypocrite as her father who also gets his clothing line made in foreign sweatshops while he talks about "buy American and bringing back American jobs".

Hell, if both of them had their clothes made here that would be some jobs bought back to the US.

[Rebl2]

44. While watching

Joy Reid this morning someone mentioned something about an employee of Ivanka. The employee wanted to discuss her maternity leave with her and Ivanka told her that they do not get maternity leave at her business. How is that empathy towards women's rights!

[brush]

47. Exactly.

[SunSeeker]

9. No, you're not alone. But calling Ivanka the "First Bitch" is an insult to bitches.

Female dogs are not fake, evil and worthless.

[anneboleyn]

77. MTE. Real bitches work.

[nevergiveup]

11. I am getting there.

[Rorey]

12. You're definitely not the only one.

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I also can't stand Don Jr., Eric, and Melania. But Ivanka is the worst of all. Her voice reminds me of the fundy christian kids that used to approach people in parking lots around here to sell their wares for their chur....er....I mean, cult. I always thought it was a sick thing to make those kids do that. They were obviously very uncomfortable. Ivanka speaks like a stepford wife.

[classof56]

14. Well said. Could not agree more!

[Greybnk48]

15. I find her repulsive.

She's a pathological liar like her dad. If you cut her, she'd "bleed white." No substance, no soul.

[cilla4progress]

16. Not at all!

Female, less obviously crude version of her father!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

17. She's nothing more than a pretty face on an ugly name

And nothing she says makes me feel any more comfortable about anything related to Trump.

[SunSeeker]

87. It's not even her real face.

[Sculpin Beauregard]

18. I don't know how she can support her father after what he did to her mother.

He's a fucking rapist.

I hope every asset they own is seized.

[Solly Mack]

19. If she would go back to her life in NYC I wouldn't have a thing to say about her.

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She wasn't worth my consideration before and she wouldn't be again, once she removed herself from the WH.

But since people are latching onto her like she is a sane voice in a whirlwind of crazy, which is in itself nuts, she deserves to be treated as any other politician and attacked at every turn for every lie and every bullshit statement.

If she is there to moderate her father's actions, then, please, someone show me the evidence.

None exist. She is there to put a pretty face on the ugly that is her father.

She will tell you that her father respects and encourages women. Yet no evidence exist to back that up.

Her father indulges her and she defines that as respect.

Her father encourages her, as his daughter - and she thinks that means he holds the same regard for all women.

But what he encourages her to do is to engage in causes he would dismissively refer to as womanly issues. Of no real import to him or the real world, but gee, it sure does make his daughter happy.

While he guts funding and needed services, an action that does nothing but harm women, Ivanka flutters about, vacuous smile at the ready, explaining how she really wants to help women and how her father really wants to help women, and though she has her father's ear, they disagree - which is really just a case of her father being as dismissive to her as he is to all women. But it makes her feel better to call it a disagreement instead of the insult it is.

Yet out on the public stage she goes, trussed up as the reasonable face of the irrational - which isn't saying much at all.

Anyone relying on IT to get her father to do the right thing is as delusional as Donald Trump.

Her only goal is to protect the brand - and any lie, any subterfuge, and any mask she has to tell, promote or wear - she will do it.
Happily.

[brer cat]

22. +1000

Well said, Solly.

[cornball 24]

20. I find her to be the female version of her repulsive father. She has the same "stalk walk"

that says "look at me you lackeys for I am the the embodiment of all things beautiful and wonderful". She is a total phoney and it sickens me that she has been elevated to the status that she has by her lunatic father. As they say, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I behold a two-bit, made-up shill and I too cannot stand her!

[Doreen]

21. She is vile.

[2naSalit]

23. She was raised that way

and it shows so much more than they cold imagine. I see her as the "alternate" caricature for daddy when he appears too toxic for anyone. How could anyone say "no" to her? would be the minset there.

I loathe every single one of them individually and collectively.

[OregonBlue]

24. She is nothing more than a poser.

[CousinIT]

25. I despise her. She's just another Trump Family grifter with a pretty face.

And the pretty face bit is arguable.

All of SHitler's kids are cons, liars, cheats, thieves and grifters just like he is.

The turds don't fall far from the asshole.

[RKP5637]

26. I think there's a lot of fake-ness going on with her! n/t

[randr]

27. A small part of me feels sorry for her

but the larger part understands that she is making the choices in her life. Her breathy fake voice makes me think she has a mouthful.

[anneboleyn]

75. Don't. Ivanka and Jared are nasty pieces of work with enormous power.

[Progressive dog]

28. Can't stand her would be the mildest thing

I could say about her. She does take after her father.

[Faux pas]

29. Smarmy

squared defines her for me.

[Ilsa]

30. Nope. Can't stand her.

I'm not offended by someone being called a bitch any more than I'm offended by anyone being called a prick or a dick.

[Yavin4]

31. In many respects, she's far worse than her father.

Supposedly, she's the moderating force in his inner circle, but she enables him more than she moderates. Yet, she gets a ton of credit from the mainstream media and pundits.

[tenderfoot]

32. No you aren't

The sight of her makes me physically ill. She's phonier than sacrine.

[J_William_Ryan]

36. No, you're not the only one.

The whole lot of them are repugnant.

[cp]

37. Complicit

[PatSeg]

40. That soft breathy voice

is really annoying. It makes her sound dumb and phony. I don't hate her, I just have no use for her at all. She is a superficial, seemingly clueless individual, who has no place in the White House.

[deurbano]

58. Trying to be Jackie Kennedy. Earlier in life tried to look like a Las Vegas show girl.

They are all so tacky and fake. You would think the third generation of wealth would be a bit more "cultured" (or could at least fake it better after the expensive private education), but the whole family is like Housewives of New Jersey. (The sons even look mobbed up.) Or Duck Dynasty.

[PatSeg]

63. Exactly

Third generation and they are still tacky nouveau riche. If they didn't have money, they'd be in a trailer in some seedy trailer park or perhaps they'd have a reality TV show like Duck Dynasty or Housewives of New Jersey. And yes, the sons do look mobbed up.

[JI7]

93. maybe it's because they don't actually have the wealth and are in debt to russians

not wealthy like romney where he can easily buy things with millions in cash.

and the trump steaks, trump water, trump appliances nad whatever else fuckign shit with their name on it is so sleazy. you wont see actual wealthy families do those things.

the actual wealthy types like bloomberg hate him and see him as a phony.

[PatSeg]

97. Oh yes, there's that

Really wealthy people don't have the need to plaster their name all over everything in huge gold letters. They more resemble mafia type rich - gaudy, loud, and in your face, not to mention unsubstantial.

Becoming president, was a payback to all those wealthy people who snubbed him for years. Sadly, he is still a joke, just bigger and more visible.

[Kahuna7]

42. Nope! You're not alone. nt

[keithbvadu2]

43. Opportunist grifter nepotism

[iluvtennis]

46. She is FAKE to me. One of those when you try to get to know them have no substance.

[iluvtennis]

48. She's a Fake...Alexander O'Neal

[40RatRod]

49. What if...

...Trump is not impeached and serves out his term. I hope not but if he remains president, it is my understanding that she and her husband were registered democrats before the election. It has also been said, the two of them are the only ones he really listens to. If he does serve out his term, I think it would be best if she remains to keep her dad in check as much as possible.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

60. No she does not keep her father in check. She is the shiny object distracting people

while her father screws them over. Even worse, she lies for him in that breathy, "I really care about you" voice/tone.

[Horse with no Name]

91. She is the organ grinder's monkey

Putting on a show while the organ grinder picks pockets.

[Grammy23]

50. Well, all the things I would have said about her have been taken up by other posts.

So suffice it to say, she's not my favorite and hearing her speak is like nails on a chalkboard.
I am hoping that when all of the story involving Russia and the tRump campaign splits wide open that the tRump dynasty exits D.C. With a loud whoosh. Not that I want them to go free, mind you. I hope every single one of them lands in prison for a long time. But to have them out of the limelight is their nightmare and we need that. Just desserts.....

tRump has placed himself on such a high pedestal so when he (and his minions) fall, it's a long, long way down to the bottom. Ivanka' facial expression alone will be worth seeing when it all implodes and there is nothing they can do but ride it out to the end.

[elleng]

51. No

[MFM008]

52. She is plastic

......

[onecaliberal]

53. Evil grifter

[Raster]

54. NO! She is a fake as a four-dollar bill...

...I am not impressed by her "intelligence," nor beguiled by her "beauty." I find her reprehensible.

She is a younger, more composed and better poised female version of her disgusting father.

[doc03]

56. I can't stand the whole f----ng family nt

[stonecutter357]

57. she is as fake as her Dad.

[smirkymonkey]

59. Can't stand her. A wolf in sheep's clothing.

And that voice! So annoying! It's insulting actually. Like she thinks she is going to take us all in with it. She is so phony, so corrupt. The things she will do for money and power are disgusting.

Her brothers are just as bad if not worse.

[anneboleyn]

74. A wolf in sweatshop clothing

[Bigredhunk]

65. -

Agreed.

Feel the same way about Pence. When I see that smug eye squint/smirk/wince on his face -- I WANT TO PUKE!!

[6000eliot]

66. The ONLY thing I like about her

is that her existence got that racist assclown at Fox News in trouble.

[linnknee]

67. I agree with each and every reply I HATE HER

She is a bigger phony than her father. But it is remarkable because the whole family really thinks they are SMART. They are the most ignornant phoney group of human beings. WE LITERALLY COULD NOT HAVE PICKED A DUMBER PERSON TO RUN OUR COUNTRY. Just think their lineup of idiots during the primary were the best in years according to their party and they all were bad however the bottom feeder won out.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

68. Only if you were the last person on earth!

[lunamagica]

71. No.

[Snarkoleptic]

72. But, but, but she's a BIGLY great businesswoman who built the best brand from scratch! PERIOD

[Pachamama]

101. Complete With fake gem sequins and Made in China label....

A picture says a 1000 words...

Enough said about who she is...

[anneboleyn]

73. She has a freakishly long neck - like a human giraffe. And her voice makes my skin

crawl. The voice she uses is a totally manufactured voice that she has adopted to appear kinder and less insane than her father and also "pretty." It reminds me of Paris Hilton in that both of them were/are exceptionally privileged white women who basically shaped themselves into pop culture characters for $$$ (a personal brand). Paris adopted the high-pitched squeaky girly dingdong voice, which is NOT her natural speaking voice; Ivanka adopted the breathy lower pitch "I am talking to you as though you were an upset animal or very young child that needs soothing" voice to fool the masses into buying her crap and/or voting for her father.

[Sculpin Beauregard]

102. Excellent observations! I, too have wondered about the weird neck.

[Warpy]

80. She's utterly bland and talks but says nothing

I can't summon any hate because there's really nothing there but a conventionally pretty face that I can't imagine showing real emotional animation or passion past the Botox, although she must show it in private with her kids, at least.

She, like her father and husband, is utterly out of her depth and for this I feel slightly sorry for her. I'd certainly rather see her than be her.

[Miles Archer]

81. No

You are not.

[BigDemVoter]

82. i can't stand her either OR her 2 brothers. I have nothing against the

youngest one. . . Barrron?

[lovemydogs]

86. I think you are in alot company

Ivanka must not be too popular if SteinMart is trying to dump her stuff under a different name.

I heard of women at TJMaxx who see a pretty scarf or blouse and then see Ivanka's name on it and they immediately drop it.

And that's just her fashion line.

I don't think the public at large like Ivanka. Don't support her.

[spiderpig]

89. Ronald Reagan managed to give us Ron Reagan.

Rump has given us - what?

[crazycatlady]

105. If one of his kids doesn't worship at his feet

It is Barron or Tiffany. They're still young enough (11, 23) that the jury's still out.

[bobGandolf]

94. I feel the same way. nt

[BlueStateBlue]

95. Ivanka the Vapid n/t

[Demsrule86]

96. No, I don't like her at all...spoiled little rich princess.

It was obvious she is a lightweight in Germany...all those accomplished women and there was Ivanka... honestly didn't belong there.

[HughBeaumont]

98. Wharton School Barbie.

She's unleashed her inner Jack Welch on CNBC a few times. Just as big an economic illiterate as her father.

[Gothmog]

99. You are not alone-she is very very fake

[petronius]

100. I haven't bothered to read the thread yet, but I'm guessing it's probably just you

[democratisphere]

103. You are one of the billions that find her a plastic, fake, complicit fraud.

Welcome to the club!

[vlyons]

104. She don't bother me

I feel sorry for her. Yikes having Donald Trump as a father is a terrible position. Always being embarrassed by his lies and stupidities. His corruption and mean-spirited words and actions towards others. She is who she is partly as a product of what coping mechanisms she learned as a child to deal with a narcissistic and manipulative father.

When has she ever had a wise and compassionate teacher to show her another way of being? C'mon folks, have some compassion.