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shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:12 PM Jul 2012

Republican Governors won't expand Medicaid to cover uninsured poor people.

Why isn't this headline news? This is absolutely free to their states for the next three years, and then the federal gov't picks up most (90 percent) of the cost.

These governors are pure evil.

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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
1. It has been headline news. They've been talking about it for two days on MSNBC, and see below
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:15 PM
Jul 2012

Here's a great chart of the GOPers that have said no: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101738323


shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
9. I've been listening to NPR, and I haven't heard anything about it. Thanks for the link!
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:37 AM
Jul 2012

This is so unconscionably mean. It's the lowest I've ever seen the GOPers stoop.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. Actually there are stories about this all over the media.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:18 PM
Jul 2012

Several stories have their own DU thread.

Note that the Governors don't have to make a final decision until next summer.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Lotsa stories, and many of them say...
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jul 2012

that most of these scumbag guvners are just playing to their crowds and will quietly back down when the time comes.

(It's what scumbag politicians do. )



 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
4. They want the poor to leave their states by any means necessary:
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jul 2012

death is preferable, but moving to another state will also suffice, at least for the time being.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
5. Short-sighted fools
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:30 AM
Jul 2012

Talented and hard-working folks will leave those states in droves. Faster if they have disabled or sick family. They won't have to be driven out.

Their new home states will have healthier, more productive, higher tax-paying individuals overall as a result of having affordable health insurance for familes and singles.

Then the idiots can stay behind and live in their Third World states. Everybody's happy!

But...this is really only governors pandering to the rabid teabag base before the election. They'll change their tune when they see that money can be flowing into their state from the Feds. Republican governors LOVE that more than they hate poor people.


shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
10. I should hope that they move. I'm seeing anti-poor people posts on FB.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:42 AM
Jul 2012

Some of the people who've posted these things really surprised me, like one friend who is a social worker. I hope good people can get the hell out and away from these utterly mean, selfish, and cruel people.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
14. I see those posts all the time on FB
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 10:02 AM
Jul 2012

usually from people who should know better.

The posts are always whining about Medicaid or about food stamps.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
11. Yes, death is preferable in the minds of these animals.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:46 AM
Jul 2012

It's nice to see that some folks are seeing these Conservatives for what they REALLY are: social Darwinists.

Wounded Bear

(58,760 posts)
15. "Kind of?"
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 10:04 AM
Jul 2012


He probably thinks we forgot about his idea to reduce funding for volcano research. (I live in the shadow of Mt St Helens's big brother.

Nope. Still remembering.

moondust

(20,019 posts)
7. My prediction:
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:57 AM
Jul 2012

Those Republican guvnahs will bitch and moan and whine and demogogue about the evil ACA and expanded Medicaid and how they wouldn't touch it with a 50-foot pole...until the November election. When that's over they'll be drooling to get their hands on that money and complaining about something else.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
13. I don't want to say "good"...
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 09:59 AM
Jul 2012

because the humanitarian costs are sad.

But when those that would have been covered see their family members and peers across the state line getting health care that they're not because Obama Cares and GOP Governor does not...guess what's becoming a campaign issue. Guess who's not getting reelected. Guess what has down-ticket consequences. This is a gift of a blunt-object wield-able for a decade or more to destroy conservatism among those who need the biggest hand-up, ironically the staunchest conservatives. This isn't one of those things the GOP is going to be able to push off on benefiting liberal elites and minorities...these people are going to be able to see with their own eyes that they're getting involuntarily-forcibly-sodomized by the party they believed in. Democrats can run in very-conservative places on "I'm going to give you healthcare you're already paying for and not receiving."

If I'm the RNC, I'm calling the Jindals and Walkers and saying "You can say what you'd like...but the fuck you're not doing it. We're not handing them the means to destroy us."

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
16. Except that these are the working poor. Often working two or three jobs in order to get by.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 10:36 AM
Jul 2012

It's difficult to get information about expanded Medicaid from other states to this population. Especially when all the surrounding states have also rejected the Medicaid expansion. It's not as if the Left has access to the airwaves (think AM radio) like the Right does.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
17. I was thinking friends, family, border-creep and especially no TV/radio.
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:51 PM
Jul 2012

It's not immediate. If it were immediate...it wouldn't be a blunt-force of that length of time. The very things you're pointing to were things I knew and which if not for humanitarian costs work to our advantage.

I don't expect to have expanded Medicare everywhere until 2020 at the earliest...I expect that with the slow tidal change conservatism is squashed. Nobody talks about it but the GOP is on the verge of "structural loss" in Presidential races anyways...it's possible that if they lose 2012, they may not be viable in a Presidential race for another generation unless they toss-over much of their current agenda; the demographics are against them and trending further away.

The last thing I want is an ad campaign on radio or TV...they'll become inured to the reality; they need to see it and figure it out on their own without hearing it from Democratic leadership first. People, even conservatives, trust their lefty cousin and their moderate neighbor more than any politician. People in VA and WV know people in DC and MD. Kentuckians know Ohioans. Wisconsin borders Minnesota. We're capable of taking Florida and with that you border creep...you can't make this message in Alabama or Louisiana tomorrow.

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