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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:35 PM Jul 2012

Simple facts for RW debate: If Obama is the worst President ever then why:

RWers always say Obama has ruined the economy and is destroying the country and is the worst President in history. They dont care about the dozens of other Obama accomplishments like women's rights or health care etc, but these will quickly disprove their lying whining.

Since Obama took office and his economic stimulus started in March 2009:

--Dow is UP 6000 from 6500 to 12,500 (now its 1300-so it has DOUBLED)

--GDP is UP 11% from -9% to 2%

--Corporate profits set records in 2010 and 11.

--Bush was LOSING 700,000 jobs a MONTH and for the past 2 years
Obama has been ADDING up to 200,000 jobs a month.

--oh yeah, he got Bin Laden!

Anti-Romney facts.
--In the last half century, the economy has produced 66 million private sector jobs—
42 million of them under Democratic presidents,
24 million under the Republicans. So you pick.

--Mitt Romney pays a lower than 15% tax rate, probably about half yours, because of the Bush tax breaks for the rich, which he wants to increase. Those tax breaks for people who don’t need them put us trillions in debt and didn’t create one job. Do you really think Mitt Romney needs a tax break?

-- Mitt Romney is very rich and that’s great. But what he got rich doing was using downsizing and outsourcing to make huge fees for himself, often at the expense of workers. The last two businessman Presidents were Herbert Hoover and George W. Bush. Remember how they worked out? (The Great Depression and the 2008 Bush Depression)

credit last 3 to LOLGOP-

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patrice

(47,992 posts)
1. LIKE that 66 million jobs > 42 million under Democrats + 24 million under Republicans.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jul 2012

CLEAR refutation of Republicans want to share the wealth and tax-cuts create jobs.

Also, easy to remember.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
6. Yes, just reverse the digits and voila 42>24. Memory is our main weapon for winning the info war.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 08:46 PM
Jul 2012
 

lib2DaBone

(8,124 posts)
2. Republicans rape the economy... cut taxes.. send jobs to China... start wars...
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 08:08 PM
Jul 2012

.. then.. the Dems come in... and have to clean up the mess. Raise taxes.. stop the wars... bring jobs home.

So the Dems get labeled as the "TAX" party.. because they have to deal with the mess the Repukes made.

Wash-Rinse-Repeat.

This has been going on for how long..?

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
3. Facts, Facts, Facts, those pesky little facts.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 08:20 PM
Jul 2012

Don't confuse the Republicans with facts. They much more prefer their fantasy land.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. You forgot ending the wars
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 08:36 PM
Jul 2012

That the Romney camp talks about it like it's a bad thing shows a real twisted sense of foreign policy.

Edit to add

They repeat the most general statements not backed with details over and over. "Obama's failed foreign policy." I think that might come back to bit them. Obama is getting better at explaining things and I can't wait for the debates!

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
7. "Facts" and "RW debate" do NOT go together
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 11:42 PM
Jul 2012

We support our troops (when they agree with us)
We're for limited government (when it helps people and not republican-friendly contractors - see Iraq, privatization of prisons)
We're for limited government (unless it's about a vagina and we can use it to get our base worked up)
We're for freedom (unless actual freedom is desired - see women's vaginas)
We're for reducing the deficit (as long as a republican president isn't in charge, but especially for it when cutting programs that help people)
We're for big government action (as long as it's overseas and includes lots of republican-friendly contractors)

See a pattern here?

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