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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo Ivanka Trump. Don't ever think to speak for me about empowering women again.
You attended the W20 Summit as the U.S. representative, which means you were attempting to speak for the women of America.
As one of those women, I say - No.
Your non-answer answers on the struggles of women everywhere merely exposed how clueless you really are on the subject.
Your comments about needing smart policies without once mentioning a single smart policy your father has enacted or even considered was pure smoke and mirrors not lost on the rest of the panel at all. One panel member even called you out, politely, on how racism discourages the empowerment of all women. How health-care, a subject she boldly stated the entire panel was dancing around - for your benefit - was pivotal to empowering women.
You sat there - smiling. On display. No substance. Nothing to offer but your daddy's name.
So, please, in the future, stop pretending you give a fuck.
Signed...
A woman not in the mood to suffer your privilege gladly.
Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)and has no business speaking for women or anybody else. It's outrageous.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)spanone
(135,859 posts)Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)spanone
(135,859 posts)imagine what this has cost the taxpayers.
private jet.
secret service protection
entourage
such bullshit
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)IT is no different from her father.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)as is her hubby, for a future Trump "dynasty" (emphasis on the 'nasty') that "The Donald" dreams of for his family. Jared as President, White House Barbie as First Lady, and down the line, and so-on and so-forth. Little Barron would be the crowning glory of the Trump dynasty (emphasis on the 'nasty') and the Trumps would eventually surpass the Bush family in American Presidential history.
At least that's my take on it. I can't see this grand dream of Trump's ever getting off the ground, especially since Trump is about as popular as a herpes outbreak right now.
calimary
(81,437 posts)That lifeless monotone. DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!
Expressionless voice. Matches her mostly-expressionless face. With the face, I wonder if it's Botox. She's of the age when wealthy society women start tweaking their faces with injections and fillers and so forth. Which means she'll probably wind up looking like a gargoyle when she's 50.
Once you start with that shit, in far many cases, you can't stop. The first facelift holds for a couple of years. But then gravity starts taking its toll, and you have to go in and get a little "update." And that holds for a couple more years, and then you have to go have that "fixed." And THAT holds up for a couple more years, until gravity again takes the lead, and ...
Side Effects of Botox Injections on Forehead, Around Eyes, Lips and in the Treatment of Migraines
http://www.healtreatcure.org/botox/side-effects-of-botox-injections-on-forehead-eyes-migraines/
Doreen
(11,686 posts)Daddy's little girl must remain an eye candy for him.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)PJMcK
(22,045 posts)This is a quote from her book, "The Trump Card."
Ivanka Trump is a very dangerous person because she is perceived by many to be a stabilizing influence on her father. I believe she is an enabler of the first order.
As John Oliver said, "the Apple doesn't fall very far from the Orange."
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)At one point she was struggling with the word exacerbate and opted to say exasperate instead.
As in... exasperates the problem. (is what she said)
She stuttered a bit trying to get the word exacerbate out then used exasperate. As if the meanings were the same.
LakeArenal
(28,837 posts)Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Ilsa
(61,697 posts)IcyPeas
(21,901 posts)his expose on Jared and Ivanka was great. I never realized before that I have never heard Jared speak!!
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Mendocino
(7,504 posts)When daddy says something stupid, there are the two of them trying to soft sell it. Well then if they are supposed to be a moderating influence on dt, they should be fired for non performance.
Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)his playbook. She's nothing but a con. With expensive surgery.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)mopinko
(70,197 posts)from our allies in the world to oust these vampires, i say put her out there for everyone to see.
as long as people think he has someone to keep him on track, he wont be as scary as he really ought to be.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)The panel was polite but not impressed. Oh, I'm sure they will say kind things about her. But the looks on their faces told a different tale.
brer cat
(24,592 posts)She speaks for Trump, Inc. and no one else. It is insulting that she has any role in this maladministration, especially one in public view.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)In order to not offend, a strain was put on the panel, taking away from it.
Juliana Rotich wasn't having it though. She was the one who brought up racism and health-care to IT's "smart policy" bullshit.
demmiblue
(36,875 posts)but I can already feel my blood pressure rising even thinking about watching it!
Even watching this makes me sick:
This article from Elle keeps coming to mind:
...
Her work isn't feminism, but femvertising.
Patriarchy has always had room for the Exceptional Womanthe one woman smart enough, sweet enough, strong enough, soft enough, pure enough, sexy enough to satisfy all of our culture's contradictory demands on women, and thus make it to the top of a sexist system on merit alone. Patriarchy needs that woman. She provides men with an excuse to blame women for their own pain and struggles while simultaneously assuring women that sexism only needs to be outwitted to be overcome. She tells us that the system is survivable for womenyou simply have to be the right kind of woman.
Exceptional Women don't exist in real life. No one is unaffected by sexism; no woman, no matter how well-behaved, is ever safe. But some women, by dint of privilege and good luck, are fairly convincing avatars. This year's Exceptional Woman is Ivanka Trump, and she's such a convincing Exceptional Woman that she's helped make a self-confessed sexual predator who ran the most openly misogynist presidential campaign in modern history palatable to a large number of Americans.
Of course, Trumpism is unsurvivable for women who do not happen to be exceptional Ivankas. "Being the best mother you can be" probably doesn't sound aspirational to a woman who's lost her birth control due to the repeal of Obamacare and can't abort her resulting pregnancy due to increased state abortion restrictions, lack of federal funding, and/or the overturning of Roe. The support staff who provide Ivanka's soothing greige lifestyledomestic and child care workers who are predominantly femalewill not find their work-life balance enhanced by child care proposals that don't cover the cost of caring for their own children, or by the lack of a livable minimum wage.
The goal of Trumpism is not to benefit women. The goal is to benefit one woman, Ivanka, or the one type of woman she represents. She provides her father with a human credential and downplays his sexism; in exchange, she gains an invaluable boost for her aspirational lifestyle brand (only $10,800 for the bracelet Ivanka wore on 60 Minutes!) and the opportunity to charge strangers $50,000 for a "coffee chat," thus proving that women really can succeed after all. We're not meant to benefit from her; we're meant to look at her, and think about how we can be more like her. We're meant to blame ourselves for falling short, as we have with every other Exceptional Woman to date. Ivanka is the Disney princess; we're the peasant chorus members who watch, and serve, and sigh at her pretty hair. Hell, maybe we'll even pitch in some background vocals on a few of the big musical numbers. Peasants always do, in those movies, even though they're probably all starving.
http://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a41444/ivanka-trump-distraction/?src=socialflowTW
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)Thanks for the article!!
demmiblue
(36,875 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)She sickens me! I wish she would just go away. I find her almost as disgusting as I find her father.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Can't touch that!
ailsagirl
(22,898 posts)Hekate
(90,773 posts)SunSeeker
(51,658 posts)In Trump world, how a woman appears to men is how her value is based. And the way women naturally look is never good enough. Every time I see Trump's expensively surgically altered wife and daughter, I am reminded of this fact. Not exactly the most "empowering" message for women and girls.
JHan
(10,173 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Phoenix61
(17,013 posts)Her cluelessness is nothing short of amazing but considering who her father is, completely understandable.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)sarge43
(28,942 posts)Yeah and we take it personally. Hurt one of us and you hurt us all.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)That rich, trust fund baby"better than you because my father has money" air makes me want to vomit. She's nothing more than an heiress with a private/boarding school pedigree and a lot of plastic surgery.
Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,694 posts)selling a few thousand pairs of shoes and some cheezy jewelry, all copied from real designers.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)Style: American WTF.
Stinky The Clown
(67,817 posts)Her floaty gait little more than learned in model school. Her fake chin, nose and boobs so obviously fake.
I find NOTHING about her likable or competent.
But most of all, the sheer chutzpah of her deigning to speak for real people is more than this country should be asked to bear.
I am GLAD she's getting her ass kicked in Germany right now.
How DARE they send her to represent the US?
How DARE they?
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,817 posts)She disgusts me.
llmart
(15,550 posts)That whole family disgusts me. I have heard it said from others that they are grooming her for the presidency.
Let that thought sink in and don't dismiss the notion that her father couldn't steal another election for her. We need to stay vigilant and resist, persist and protest.
She's a fake and she'll NEVER speak for this woman!
Hekate
(90,773 posts)How dare we peasants or any of our surrogates in the Press question her or her Daddy? She really wants us to know she does not appreciate that "tone" or that "line of questioning." How very rude of us.
I would very much like to see her booed off the stages of the world.
Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)fake, "thoughtful" pauses! Aarghhh! I thought I was the only one!! Thank you!
Fla Dem
(23,731 posts)Aaron Rupar Journalist,
ThinkProgress. Twitter: @atrupar. Email: arupar@americanprogress.org
Apr 25
Ivanka Trump now serves in a nebulous but powerful role in the White House. As is the case with her husband, former newspaper owner and real estate developer Jared Kushner, her main qualification for being there is that she happens to be family with President Trump.
On Tuesday, Ivanka was in Berlin to represent the United States in a panel at the W20 Summit, an international convention dedicated to the economic empowerment of women. The moderator of Ivankas W20 panel pulled no punches, asking her right away to clarify her White House role.
More>>>
https://thinkprogress.org/ivanka-trump-jeered-berlin-women-panel-trump-misogyny-436dc8da9fe4
Ivanka Speaking
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Full video of panel discussion with Ivanka.
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Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Who on earth does she think she is? She can't hold a candle to any of them.
gademocrat7
(10,665 posts)Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)The only positive change she is interested in is the change in her pocket.
onecaliberal
(32,887 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,142 posts)I can understand your pique.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,142 posts). . .when there is little that would ever affect her privileged and pampered life.
With that kind of security, it's super simple to talk the talk, because you never actually have to walk the walk.
leftstreet
(36,111 posts)MedusaX
(1,129 posts)Come with me, my pretty, and show your true self to the world....
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)JI7
(89,262 posts)iluvtennis
(19,868 posts)Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)distract enough away from her shortcomings. (and her father's)
iluvtennis
(19,868 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)nikibatts
(2,198 posts)struggle and deal with men like her dad to keep their jobs and marriages in tact.
Glaisne
(517 posts)who has benefited from nepotism and never had to struggle in her life could never speak on the struggles of women everywhere. Especially in this case.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)Glaisne
(517 posts)thought she hit a triple.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)
Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka was met with groans as she defended her father's attitude towards women at the G20 women's summit in Berlin.
...
An audible groan went up as she told the room her father was a "tremendous champion of supporting families and enabling them to thrive".
Reason why Ivanka was there? So that Angela Merkel has the ear of Donald, as a back channel so to say.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)During the panel the other women on the stage were not impressed with her.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)You can't be both. They are mutually exclusive.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)This is how I want you to see me, so that's the role I'll play. She's scripted to her part.
H2O Man
(73,590 posts)Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)Hope all is well with you.
I'm still on this side of the soil, and appreciating every day. How are you?
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)Solomon
(12,319 posts)JI7
(89,262 posts)babylonsister
(171,079 posts)Hekate
(90,773 posts)...and Prince Consort are what I call them because of their entirely unearned inherited privilege.
In reality, all of the remaining Royals of Europe reign over Constitutional monarchies -- so they and their extended families are raised from birth to have some sense of public duty and patriotism.
Not so for the scions of the Trump Business Empire. Even before the Mad King lost his marbles, it was run as an absolute monarchy answerable to no one. There is no patriotism -- banks and money flow are borderless. There is no public duty -- their only peers are other billionaires and oligarchs.
Thank you for pointing out the sheer offensiveness of Ivanka saying she and Daddy care about women and children. It would be so much better if they (especially she) stopped pretending to give a fuck.
C_U_L8R
(45,018 posts)I've heard Ivanka's a real asshole... no surprise there.
She comes off as not very bright but very manipulative.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Rec
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)She doesn't speak for me.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)...but I wonder what she was trying to accomplish having Ivanka there. To surround her with strong, intelligent women and educate her, mayhaps?
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)I have my doubts about IT being influenced by the women around her today. More like IT felt she an equal - which she so clearly is not.
But maybe...maybe.
eyeofnewt
(146 posts)Thank you for this post. I've ruminated over her presence there all day. Over on the Twitter there's a link to a Chris Cillizza article defending her for defending him- all because, he says, almost every daughter would in any situation where their father is under attack. No, not a daughter with a moral compass. But yes, a daughter who profits from that father's position and who has not one ounce of embarrassment over her own lack of self respect.
That said, I can now go to work at Job #2 today.
You should try this whole work thing, Ivanka- it's something lots of us have to do.
SunSeeker
(51,658 posts)She knows the POWER of not living with the boring face she was born with! Now she is revered as a goddess in China because daddy made her look like Malibu Barbie! That is such an empowering lesson for all of us women living with the faces (and bodies) we were born with.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Jeez - how much work did she have done?! That was a complete overhaul!
SunSeeker
(51,658 posts)JI7
(89,262 posts)surgery improvements often go bad with aging.
SunSeeker
(51,658 posts)Like Melania did.
Because the worst thing a woman can do in Trump world is age. Thst makes her worthless to men. Because in Trump world, how a woman appears to men is how her value is based. And the way women naturally look is never good enough. Every time I see Trump's radically altered wife and daughter, I am reminded of this fact. Not exactly the most "empowering" message for women and girls.
Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)a cheek implant. And that's just her face.
Her hair/extensions on the Merkel vid looks to be some weird hybrid of raggedy and greasy. Odious.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)In other words, Ivanka, STFU.
ashling
(25,771 posts)At first I thought why the hell would Merkel want to help this clueless box of rocks to such a high profile event?
Then it hit me ...
... good move Angela. well played.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)insulting.