I loathe Bernie Sanders and have the hidden posts to prove it...

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

But anyone who seriously argues that Bernie Sanders or any significant number (or any at all) of his supporters are anything but idealistic leftists is engaged in some extreme rhetorical dishonesty.

NARAL and Planned Parenthood both gave him 100% in 2015 and 2016 respectively, the conversation taking place here exists in a reality other than our own.

[Tom Rinaldo]

1. Thank you for keeping things in some kind of realistic perspective n/t

[randome]

2. Agreed. There may be some actual trolls involved but...

...99.9% of Sanders supporters are likely just as you said: idealistic leftists.

[flamingdem]

7. I'm also a Sanders supporter and as I think you know also a fervent Obama supporter

and a member of the democratic party.

It's not so binary. Bernie is an honest broker.

[randome]

11. I was neither a Sanders nor a Clinton supporter at the start.

No use for third parties, I just wasn't awed by either of them. You're right, it's not a binary choice. I think Sanders is honest, too. But I am bone-weary tired of having to choose between septuagenarians. I didn't feel inspired by anyone this past election.

Apparently a lot of others felt the same way.

We need new faces. We proved we can win with intelligence and charisma, which Obama has in spades. More of that, please.
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[flamingdem]

13. Agree with all of your points

Let's hope there are more Obamas waiting in the wings.

[KittyWampus]

3. Sanders' own record on that issue is irrelevant to the conversation.

[mopinko]

4. i suggest a generous use of ignore.

aside from the fact that their threads will sink if no one responds, the admins know who is being ignored by whom.

assist in raising the ban hammer. tune them out.

[ProfessorPlum]

8. Ignore works wonders

[emulatorloo]

5. Everybody at DU is on the left as far as I can tell.

We pretty much all agree on a core set of values.

DU is somewhat screwed up right now. That being said I don't see anyone here claiming Bernie has an anti-choice voting record.

[Fla Dem]

14. I agree with you here. No honest member would be here if they were not left of center.

We do have a common core of shared values. I don't believe in abortion but I'm squarely pro choice and support Planned Parenthood. I'm totally anti gun, but understand for some it's a sport or security need. No problem as long as the guns are registered, the owner licensed, and there are background checks and not semi automatic. I could go down the whole list of Democratic /Liberal/Progressive values and probably find total agreement with 90% of them with a few caveats for the rest.

No one issue is black or white. Those that demand a purity test are agitators and probably trolls.

[flamingdem]

6. Thank you. We've had too many but yes the sky IS really green

posts here. Bernie is authentic and honest, sometimes he puts his foot in his mouth, but he's trustworthy and has as you point out 100% on womens rights.

[Vinca]

9. You "loathe" Bernie??? What a divisive thing to say.

No wonder we can't win an election.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

10. Shouldn't that have sarcasm tag?

[Vinca]

12. No.

I've never been crazy about Hillary even though I voted for her and I've never said I "loathe" her.