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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI feel used up: Carrier workers arent happy about losing jobs after Trumps deal
President Donald Trump made a deal to save the jobs at the Carrier plant in Indiana but workers lost their jobs to Mexico anyway.
Fifty-six-year-old Jim Shalle doesnt want to complain but things arent going well, The New York Times reported.
Im a routine guy, and Im not boohooing, he said. But I feel used up.
Unfortunately, Jim isnt alone. His colleague Pat is still working for Carrier but with production ending just after Christmas, she knows her days are numbered. Shes been with the company for 40 years after graduating from high school, as did her daughter, who is now 33 years old.
I loved my job, she said. Its all Ive ever known.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/i-feel-used-up-carrier-workers-arent-happy-about-losing-jobs-after-trumps-deal/
Sorry, but I have ZERO sympathy for those who fell for this charade
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Same here. Especially because it was so glaringly obvious, during the campaign, that everything he said was a baldfaced lie. We knew it, why didn't they? And that everything he did, or said he would do would be destructive to us and beneficial to him, and actual billionaires. We knew that too, as did anyone with the capacity to rub 2 brain cells together.
Steven Maurer
(476 posts)Tribalism just works that way.
The tough part isn't to recognize tribalism in others, but in yourself.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)And the workers were willingly used by the Butternut Bigot and Carrier.
They should have done their homework.
still_one
(92,528 posts)this cruel hoax
Demobrat
(9,043 posts)Once we get rid of the illegals who are taking OUR jobs, there will be plenty of opportunities for those people. Surely they are not too proud to wash dishes or make beds. Those are, after all, OUR jobs. And now they're available. So what's the problem?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)get locals willing to do the really dirty work of plumbers' assistants as they learn the trade--and continue to do as well paid plumbers. Young whites, even our southern rural ones, don't want that.
Our foundation contractor is a true right-winger, and he apologized for/explained bringing non-Americans to work on our job, but he also can't get locals to do this work, even though the team lead makes close to $50K a year. The crew who sang as they hand dug our hillside foundation trenches out of hardpan, hard clay, and the kind of rock that keeps hills being hills was from Central America. Lovely guys. Hope they're doing well and return home in good order, with no "help" from ICE.
Here in Georgia, from my observation most of the people who change grandma's diapers and spoon-feed grandpa for wages that help make it POSSIBLE for people do dump relatives in these places are black. But in California most of the ones I saw were Hispanic, and no doubt a significant number of those were undocumented. Anyone you know anxious for one of the openings to come? I'm guessing the only way most of those jobs would be adequately filled by born Americans would be social-engineering a large number of people facing starvation. (The anti-tax, anti-regulation right is hoping to accomplish just that. No food programs, no minimum wage...) But probably wages will go up substantially for more expensive facilities and also in some blue (i.e., prosperous and enlightened) states, which will draw many of the best skilled workers from low-pay areas of the nation--and all that means for relatives of elders.
Sure, some decent jobs will become available. And even better will be, hopefully, upward pressure on wages, a real boon to people working in meat processing plants, etc., and for unfilled jobs until enough people are finally willing to do them. But #1, the prices of a whole lot of things are going to rise, in some cases right out of reach for many.
But #2 is a goodie, though: I predict that this crackdown on illegals--if it continues--will finally result in what we should always have been doing: bringing in labor legally and decently, without abusing them and degrading ourselves through shockingly inhumane exploitation. We can't count on the pubs doing it right--so that American labor benefits from increased wages due to increased demand, but in the end we should be bringing in only genuinely needed labor after our own needs are met. And if it results in that, it'll be really, really good. A cherry on top is that the mean right will lose big time, and it couldn't happen to worse people. Fingers crossed.
Every change brings reaction and more change.
anniebelle
(899 posts)These jobs will probably be available soon ~ I'm sure these proud aMuricans will be able to handle sunup to sundown in the hot sun picking vegetables.
Demobrat
(9,043 posts)Those are OUR jobs, after all.
Coventina
(27,224 posts)Never.
Jamaal510
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William769
(55,151 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Because that is tribal thinking on the right.
They will not ever be convinced that "government" will be able to fix anything, and any attempt to sell them on the idea of a federal government solution will be met with the same answer. NO.
usaf-vet
(6,242 posts)President 'Bigly" promised PROMISED he is the best deal maker that has ever made a deal. So with his "bigly" skills the workers must not understand the final agreement. Somewhere there must be huge golden parachutes coming for all the workers and their families. Surely the president wouldn't lie.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)for their Unemployment bennies. Dumb fuckers.
mountain grammy
(26,676 posts)theaocp
(4,250 posts)I support him 100 percent, 27-year-old veteran Tami Barnett told The Times. She left Carrier at the end of March. I was very pleased he saved the jobs in Indianapolis. Do I wish he could have saved mine? Absolutely. But he did his best.
This person is a waste of oxygen. Srsly. WTF?
Im glad he stepped in, but its a letdown, said 55-year-old Susan Cropper. Shes still glad she voted for Trump, however, and blames Carrier and the executives.
...and that's called RESPONSIBILITY. I'm done. Fuck these people. They get what they have earned.
hatrack
(59,606 posts)Fuck 'em, not "reaching out" - they can damned well reach out to reality.
Vinca
(50,334 posts)I don't feel sorry for them. If they had read about Trump before voting for him they would have known he was most likely full of crap. There's a reason there are so many visas requested by the Trump organization to staff Mar-a-Lago. He doesn't buy American and he doesn't hire American.