Alibaba Chairman Jack Ma said in the next 30 years, society will feel "pain" caused by technology.

[CK_John]

Why do the CEO's known and the US Congress doesn't have a clue.

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Alibaba Chairman Jack Ma warned on Monday that society could see decades of pain thanks to disruption caused by the internet and new technologies to different areas of the economy.

In a speech at a China Entrepreneur Club event, the billionaire urged governments to bring in education reform and outlined how humans need to work with machines.

"In the coming 30 years, the world's pain will be much more than happiness, because there are many more problems that we have come across," Ma said in Chinese, speaking about potential job disruptions caused by technology.

The Alibaba founder warned that social conflicts could have a "huge impact" on all walks of life. Ma's company has invested in areas such as cloud computing and artificial intelligence as it expands into new sectors beyond its e-commerce business

[HoneyBadger]

1. I personally look forward to doctors being replaced by robots

Some people fear change, some embrace it. Put me in the second category.

[CK_John]

4. It might be sooner than you think.

[HughBeaumont]

5. Some people get the shit stomped out of them by change.

Some people don't have the safety nets or finances or more importantly, LUCK, to combat said change.

Hey, it's all hunky dory.

[Adrahil]

6. That's true, but....

Change will come all the same. We have to deal with it.

[HughBeaumont]

9. "We", just like "The United States", are just words to the people that run us.

Outmoded concepts.

Each of them are nothing but "The Politically Isolated and Heavily Armed Republic of Jabez Shitkicker" now.

The changes that desperately need to happen to combat Re-Branded Feudalism's catastrophic end game are not and are never GOING to come.

[DetlefK]

2. Alibaba is working with China to create a real-life "1984"-style big brother-government.

China was trying to create a scoring-system for each and everything every single chinese citizen does.

If you do stuff that the chinese government defines as patriotic, you get points.

If you do stuff like spending too much money on video-games, or being critical of the chinese government, or not ratting out somebody who is critical of the chinese government, you lose points.

People with insufficient points would be barred from running for election or being a journalist.

And Alibaba was the company who was supposed to set up the system for monitoring people's monetary transactions.




Last thing I heard was they scrapped the idea because of technical difficulties.

[HughBeaumont]

3. Internet Comments sections are loaded with economic-stupid troglodytes.

They think the Re-Branded Feudalism we practice is going to solve the multitude of problems it creates.

They believe; steadfastly, I might add, that America's problems are individual and not structural.

They, unfortunately, also vote for politicians who think the same way they do.

That's why nothing is going to change and this economic catastrophe is going to be BIBLICAL.

At a time where the social safety net needs to be expanded big league, all we're talking about is either defunding or abolishing it.

If the jobs are not there, [font size="5"]THE JOBS ARE JUST NOT THERE.[/font] No amount of blowing smoke up one's ass, education, "supersizin' yer skill set, haw haw" or bootstrapping rhetoric is going to CHANGE that.

[HoneyBadger]

8. Technology might cost a few jobs

Then again, it can also supplement social services. If you support single payer, why wouldn't you want a doctor for everyone, available immediately 24x7? That is what I call a safety net. Whether or not the doctor fits some outmoded concept of "human" should not matter.

[HughBeaumont]

11. Yeah . . . . just "a few" . . . .

. . . if one considers potentially nearly half a "few" . . .

And this is only the start. “We are just seeing the tip of the iceberg. No office job is safe,” says Sebastian Thrun, an AI professor at Stanford known for his work on self-driving cars. Automation is now “blind to the colour of your collar”, declares Jerry Kaplan, another Stanford academic and author of “Humans Need Not Apply”, a book that predicts upheaval in the labour market. Gloomiest of all is Martin Ford, a software entrepreneur and the bestselling author of “Rise of the Robots”. He warns of the threat of a “jobless future”, pointing out that most jobs can be broken down into a series of routine tasks, more and more of which can be done by machines.

In previous waves of automation, workers had the option of moving from routine jobs in one industry to routine jobs in another; but now the same “big data” techniques that allow companies to improve their marketing and customer-service operations also give them the raw material to train machine-learning systems to perform the jobs of more and more people. “E-discovery” software can search mountains of legal documents much more quickly than human clerks or paralegals can. Some forms of journalism, such as writing market reports and sports summaries, are also being automated.
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So who is right: the pessimists (many of them techie types), who say this time is different and machines really will take all the jobs, or the optimists (mostly economists and historians), who insist that in the end technology always creates more jobs than it destroys? The truth probably lies somewhere in between. AI will not cause mass unemployment, but it will speed up the existing trend of computer-related automation, disrupting labour markets just as technological change has done before, and requiring workers to learn new skills more quickly than in the past. Mr Bessen predicts a “difficult transition” rather than a “sharp break with history”. But despite the wide range of views expressed, pretty much everyone agrees on the prescription: that companies and governments will need to make it easier for workers to acquire new skills and switch jobs as needed. That would provide the best defence in the event that the pessimists are right and the impact of artificial intelligence proves to be more rapid and more dramatic than the optimists expect.

[randome]

7. Sure. If we simply skip the intervening 29 years and go straight to 30 years from now.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font][hr]

[Lotusflower70]

10. Not surprising

But there is so much denial going on here and the current administration doesn't give a shit about the long term. There is also a group that is out of touch with technology and it's capabilities. My son is all in on technology and making his impact felt. This is the tip of the iceberg, these young creative minds are moving things forward. There is no going back. And with any change, there is pain.

[Volstagg]

12. This is just like backlash to industry in the Industrial Revolution

Yes, it was good that people were freaking out and that close checks were made. We need to make sure we are doing the right things moving forward. But it will be fine.