Since when did abortion become between "choice" and "life"?

[Maraya1969]

Because the real reason Roe V. Wade went the way it did is the justices read the constitution as saying our "Right to privacy" includes our visits with the doctor! And I don't know about other states but here in FL every time you go to a new doctor they have to give you a paper to that effect and you have to sign that you got it, (or refused it) Privacy is very serious stuff.

Now a woman's right to privacy has morphed into something that sounds like a woman just chooses whether or not to have an abortion like she chooses anything in her life. And this couldn't be father from the truth.

It is not an easy choice and I think the the word should not be used. Abortion is a medical decision between a woman and her doctor and I think we need to go back to the privacy we are guaranteed of that basic right that our constitution gives us.

[Takket]

1. not entirly following you...

You don't think the word CHOICE should be used? Like, you think democrats should be called pro-medical decision? or pro-medical privacy?

[Maraya1969]

8. No it is about the right to privacy

The right to privacy includes the right to be left alone.

Credit: Russell Watkins Shutterstock

The right to privacy refers to the concept that one's personal information is protected from public scrutiny. U.S. Justice Louis Brandeis called it "the right to be left alone." While not explicitly stated in the U.S. Constitution, some amendments provide some protections.

The right to privacy most often is protected by statutory law. For example, the Health Information Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) protects a person's health information, and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) enforces the right to privacy in various privacy policies and privacy statements.

The right to privacy often must be balanced against the state's compelling interests, including the promotion of public safety and improving the quality of life. Seat-belt laws and motorcycle helmet requirements are examples of such laws. And while many Americans are quite aware that the government collects personal information, most say that government surveillance is acceptable.


http://www.livescience.com/37398-right-to-privacy.html

[Warpy]

2. When PR guys got into it and labeled it for us.

It's shorthand, actually, for whether or not women are adult human beings and whether or not women own their own bodies.

People who call themselves "prolife" (and oh, how selective that term is!) think it's fine to suspend the civil rights of half the population on the off chance they might be pregnant.

People who call themselves "prochoice" think the only person with the right to decide what happens to anyone's body is the living, breathing, thinking person who resides in it.

[Hekate]

3. Immediately after Roe vs Wade passed the backlash started. That's when. nt

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

4. What Hekate said.

I'm old enough (68) to remember before Roe v Wade. I remember desperate women, who would do anything to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy. I remember the necessary lies to get a legal termination. And so on.

What enrages me the most about "Pro life" advocates (who are nothing more than anti-choice assholes) is that they act as if women are pregnant miraculously, that no man is in any way involved. Well, guess what? Every pregnant woman got pregnant by some man. And if men were held accountable to such pregnancies, oh boy, would things change.

In related matters, I've long thought that women should be willing to abandon their children to the men who fathered them so that those men could get a clue as to how hard raising a kid actually is. Most men haven't a clue, because they have almost no involvement. Apologies to those men here who truly are committed and involved in their children's lives. Anyway, most women aren't willing to abandon their children to the totally irresponsible men who fathered them, which in a way is too bad because that's why so men get off the hook here.

If men could only get pregnant. . . .

[Bettie]

7. One small note with regard to your statement:

They act like no man is in any way involved UNLESS that man wants to stop her from terminating a pregnancy, in which case, they are all about "father's rights"!

[Orrex]

11. It took me too long to get my head out of my ass on that point, alas

In fact, I can point to the actual post on DU years ago where my eye-opening moment occurred.

Ever since that moment, I have been 100% on board. The man has plenty of opportunity to weigh in on the pregnancy before it happens. Once it does, he needs to shut the hell up except to the extent that the woman requests his input.


Pro-choice (both in terms of contraception and abortion) is the only choice. Anything else is simply a crusade to turn women into incubators.

[Warren DeMontague]

5. Choice and Freedom are not dirty words.

Defending them is nothing to apologize for.

[Demsrule86]

6. I am pro-choice...I have choice over my own body.

I do not consider the other side pro-life but anti-choice...and I am a woman who was almost killed by a pro-life doctor during a miscarriage and left infertile. I have told this story several times on DU so I won't bore you with it now...but abortion is an important health issue for women.

[Maraya1969]

9. I never heard it. Can you give me the gist?

[Demsrule86]

10. People tend to be pro-choice...meaning women have a say over their own bodies...now

the so called pro-life movement which it is not...should be called anti-choice.

[Maraya1969]

12. I'd rather say I am pro privacy. No one has a right to know or

Regulate what happens between me and my doctor. It is none of their business

EDIT: I can't type on my phone!

[Demsrule86]

14. It works for me...it was a privacy decision back in 1972.

[Volstagg]

13. We are a culture that likes our dichotomies

Subtlety isn't one of our things.