Bernie people choppin on Hillary. Hillary supporters choppin on Bernie

[Bucky]

Man both groups of you, STFU. I'm tired of you. You don't gain a damn thing but my disdain by attacking fellow progressives.

Anyway, I assume half of you are trolls trying to help Trump distract us from all his corruption. Either say something useful (which means don't attack fellow liberals) or scram. You suck.

[NCTraveler]

1. It just keeps escalating.

Like your op, for example.

The Admins made some great changes that really helped DU, IMO. Seems enough time has passed to where the conversations can be had without involving the primaries in any way. It's interesting to watch and I believe it is telling a bigger story.

BTW, K&R.

[JimGinPA]

2. K&R

Don't expect this to last, but I'm with ya.

[Barack_America]

3. Productive, ain't it?

Real bang up strategy and hyper-focus on the shit that really matters.

[lies]

4. So

Half the people attacking Bernie on here are Russian trolls.

Better make a list so I know who the Russians are.

[Demsrule86]

6. Bull shit...there are plenty of DUer's who have been around here for quite a

while engaged in this nonsense...we should be fighting Trump. If this keeps up Trump gets a second term.

[ZX86]

16. Fighting Trump?

What does that even mean? Saying Trump is a bad man? People already know that. HRC fought Trump for months. What did it get us? More Trump.

The way to fight Trump is with Medicare for All, $15 minimum wage. Free college etc. Ragging on about unreleased tax returns and travel expenses as our main focus will not advance our party. It's preaching to choir. It doesn't inspire stay at home voters, new voters, or Independents.

It would be nice if merely hating on Trump was enough. It isn't. That's why we are where we are.

[Demsrule86]

42. You won't get medicare for all at the moment...try saving the ACA that will

mean something to voters. You won't get a $15.00 minimum with Trump...you won't get free college with Trump and he needs to release his tax returns because he is selling out this country for a few measly rubles...try working on special elections, 18 and then 20...criticize Trump not the Democrats who are our only means of stopping Trump. The Russians made a successful attempt to divide the Democratic Party and succeeded in large part...but even with Comey, the primary, the Russians...we barely lost...and we will win next time. The idea that we need to remake our party over a close election is nonsense. 2016 is over...now we fight to save this country from Trump...all hands on deck. It is not time to remake the Democratic Party which seems kind of arbitrary anyway...I mean a pro-life candidate is OK but someone John Lewis (a hero to me) supports is not? All Democratic candidates deserve support from Democrats and Democratic allies. You want to get all the goodies described above...elect democrats. I was watching a program that showed a map of congressional districts and how they behaved during 16, we have the best chance in years to take back the House...let's not blow it.

[ZX86]

43. " The idea that we need to remake our party over a close election is nonsense."

It shouldn't have been close. That's the point. The most qualified candidate in history lost to a pussy grabbing game show host. If that doesn't call for a remake of the party I don't know what does.

The most popular politician in the country stumping for Dems is not a problem. It's an asset. It boggles the mind that this is somehow controversial. By definition anti-Bernie sentiment is a minority opinion. Minority opinions don't win votes or elections.

[Demsrule86]

44. Of course it was close...after eight years of a party...I can think of only

twice in modern times that a candidate of the same party won...Truman (during war II) and Bush I (Reagan was incredibly popular at the time).The most qualified candidate in history had been demonized for thirty years by the media and the Republicans...My question is why even show up for a mayor's race and especially this one where the candidate is pro-life? While I would vote for a pro-life Democrat over a Republican, I would not endorse one. This could be construed as throwing women under the bus.

Also the 'unity' tour should be disbanded...when people show up and boo the Democratic party, clearly it is not working...use resources to win important races like Georgia 6. You can't force unity...thus get on with picking candidates and working towards taking the House and maybe the Senate...we have the best opportunity ever...and a mayor's race is not even on my radar. Offer all progressives good choices and let the chips fall where they may.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

47. +1

n/t

[SaschaHM]

9. That's rich coming from someone named lies with 272 posts.

Most of the people critiquing Bernie are long time DUers.

[lies]

11. Lol

Lol

[fun n serious]

19. Projection?

Yep, it''s a thing this season

[lies]

24. From the OP

"Anyway, I assume half of you are trolls trying to help Trump distract us from all his corruption."

[Cha]

31. BULLSHIT, lies! We are calling BS out for insulting the

Democratic Party.. he's wrong and divisive.

You make a ridiculous, blanket statement like that.. you better be able to back it up.

[lies]

40. From the OP

"Man both groups of you...

Anyway, I assume half of you are trolls trying to help Trump distract us from all his corruption."

People are pissed at me for simply repeating what the OP said

50% of BOTH GROUPS are trolls trying to help Trump.

I added the word Russian, because I keep hearing all the trolls helping Trump are Russian.

So...

[Greybnk48]

39. I'm inclined to agree with lies on this one.

Although it may be a double reverse, right Comrade lies?

[Demsrule86]

5. Thank you. I am sick of it.

[barbtries]

7. i supported both.

love both. there's room in our big tent for lots of people.

by the way, i trash the trashing threads. other shit going on in the world is enough to make me sick, i don't need DU infighting to add to my stress level.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Why Can't We Be Friends

[Vinca]

10. This is why we lose elections.

We spend all our time fighting amongst ourselves while the GOP is steamrolling us.

[tallahasseedem]

12. It smells like pine in here...

[Quixote1818]

13. K and R. It's always the same 10 or 15 people from each side.

Thousands of people post here and because of 10 or 15 people those threads stay alive and dominate. The overly vocal minorities here.

[Bucky]

15. Is it? That's pretty encouraging

I could ignore the few squeaky wheels if that's the story

[woodsprite]

26. Yeah, I'll have to start rebuilding my ignore list. n/t

[Cary]

30. Indeed Quixote

Vote Democratic. It's as simple as that.

[flamingdem]

14. Bernie is pretty transparent but politics are politics, in fact he may have helped Ossoff

by not opening his mouth.

http://www.myajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/newcomer-with-war-chest-gives-democrats-hope-georgia-6th-district/m6cqizE9Ie0UYX1wHPjC1M/

There’s also support from the left-leaning Daily Kos website, which so far has raised nearly $1 million for Ossoff.

That’s painted something of a bull’s-eye on Ossoff’s back. No leading GOP contender has directly confronted him, but the National Republican Congressional Committee painted the Democrat as a “far-left Bernie Sanders guy.” (Ossoff, for his part, said he backed Hillary Clinton.)

[Cha]

17. And, BS choppin on the Democratic Party..

another fucking day

[Cary]

29. Mahalo Cha!

Vote Democratic!

[Xolodno]

18. We went for a long time without any of this BS....

...but out of nowhere, suddenly it rears its head. And the fact that a Dem got almost half the votes in a district in Georgia when he shouldn't have been anywhere near the day before....Bill O getting the boot... News that the FBI considers Steele's dossier credible, etc. It's as if someone is trying to create shit in the hopes it gets everyone off the focus.

[Demtexan]

20. I know .

Enough is enough.

I voted for Bernie in the primary but Hillary in general election.

We have mid terms coming on fast.

We have a crazy person in white house and we are fighting each other.

[GallopingGhost]

21. This, this, this.

The harsh reality is that we have a dangerous train wreck of an administration in power.

The mid-terms and Donald Trump. That's what we fight for and who we fight against.

[Demtexan]

23. Train wreck is right.

A runaway train with no brakes.

[GallopingGhost]

49. And a big orange caboose

in front.

[denbot]

22. It's pretty one sided Bucky.

Me thinks there are deeper motivations then a personality driving the discourse.

[JCanete]

25. I'd be interested to know what side you think it's coming from. Given that you didn't say, I

actually, legitimately, being on this board just as you are, would have no clue which way to lean on that one.

[LanternWaste]

45. No doubt, you have crunched the numbers and will show objective evidence

No doubt, you have crunched the numbers and will show objective evidence supporting your premise, yes?

[FSogol]

27. Start Choppin?

BTW, completely agree. There are those among us that wanna divide.

[Cary]

28. Vote Democratic!

Amazingly I am drawing fire for my slogan.

[Cha]

32. Tell that to BS.

[Leith]

48. Stop It

This is a thread calling on all of us to quit with the divisiveness. Posts like yours are trying to make it worse.

Stop. It.

[WoonTars]

52. No. Shit.

Very tiresome and totally counter-productive.

[Cha]

54. You stop it.. and tell BS to stop choppin on the Democratic

Party.

I wouldn't be quoting him if he didn't provide those Quotes..

Accusing the Democratic Party of being.. "feeble" and "can't fight back"on Rachel's Show and calling it.."..the Democratic Party of the elite" in Boston with Senator Warren..

When ssarandon is the Elitist..

Who suckered the LOW INFORMATION voters with LIES like these..

"The prominent Sanders backer also predicted that a Hillary Clinton indictment was "inevitable"

Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton more dangerous than Donald Trump

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/03/susan_sarandon_hillary_clinton_more_dangerous_than_donald_trump/

poor ssarandon "had to change her phone number.." while the rest of the country that isn't so well off have to worry about this among other trumpshite..

Link to tweet

..he insults Dems Who are out there on the Front Lines Fighting for our Very Lives..

He's Wrong and Divisive..

Dems have our BACKs and I have theirs.

Truth.. Our Dems ARE Fighting for us..

Democratic Congressman Calls for 'Total and Complete Shutdown' of Trump Agenda in Congress

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028837680

Maxine Waters? Tweets: Meet Donald Trump's Kremlin Klan

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028839413

Top Dem calls for investigation into House Intelligence chairman

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141736108

Schumer: Democrats will filibuster Gorsuch nomination

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141736192

Al Franken: What was Merrick Garland about?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028836324

Woah. Rep Schiff: New evidence of Trump/Russia collusion "would merit a grand jury investigation"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028840444

Thanks to Franken and Klobuchar for helping Dems understand why Gorsuch must be filibustered

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028838216

And, this..

FactCheck.org: Sanders Wrong on Voter Turnout

Sanders Wrong on Voter Turnout

snip//

Sanders, April 16: So many of our people are giving up on the political process. It is very frightening. In the last presidential election, when Trump won, we had the lowest voter turnout over — in 20 years. And in the previous two years before that, in the midterm election, we had the lowest voter turnout in 70 years.

Sen. Bernie Sanders wrongly claimed that voter turnout in 2016 was “the lowest … in 20 years.” In fact, turnout was higher than it was in 2012.

The overall turnout was 60.2 percent in 2016, up from 58.6 percent four years earlier. In addition, the percentage of eligible voters casting ballots for president in 2016 was 59.3 percent — the third highest in the last 44 years. Only 2008 and 2004 were higher.

More..
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/sanders-wrong-voter-turnout/

If he didn't insult us all the time.. I wouldn't be calling him out. He's divisive and wrong.

[Leith]

55. Oh, Good Lord....

Now you're dragging all sorts of crap into the discussion. Why bring up Sarandon? Nobody mentioned her before now.

The point that we are trying to make is that there may be a lot of stupid crap going on in the world, people acting like idiots, saying stupid things - so you have to bring it up here just to argue? THAT is what's divisive.

Is somebody here repeating the words that Sanders said? No? Then why attack people here about it?

It was a month ago! To keep harping on it is just argumentative and divisive, no matter how many links you put in your post. It makes people wonder why you keep doing it and we're coming up with our own answers.

[Cha]

56. Yeah, it's alright for BS to insult the Democratic Party but

if we call him out on it.. that's bad.

He needs to stop it.

[Leith]

57. Yes, Of Course It's Fine

But do you have to do it 10,000 times?

I was absolutely outraged when Pelosi took the Bush impeachment off the table, but I haven't mentioned it in over a decade. How long would it take for people to doubt my sanity if I kept going on and on and on and on about it? Wasn't that just a little worse than one little word? That's how a lot of us feel about this kerfuffle over "feeble."

[Fresh_Start]

33. I increasingly feel that both Clinton and Sanders should be in the conspiracy section of DU

and neither one is even remotely a viable candidate for the future of the democratic party.
There are too many bad feelings which I for one will have a difficult time overcoming.

[Bucky]

37. We historically do better when we bring in young fresh leaders

Look at the ages of new Democratic presidents elected from outside the White House:

FDR, 50
JFK, 43
Carter, 50
Clinton, 46
Obama, 47

[Imperialism Inc.]

34. I've been fairly permissive when called to serve on a jury but no more.

I'd suggest people start voting to lock threads when asked.

[Adrahil]

35. I just want the dude to put his money where his mouth is.

Either join the party, or STFU about it. I hate people who stand on the sidelines offering criticism and advice, but taking on no risk to themselves.

[Orsino]

36. I can't wait until this primary is over. n/t

[Bucky]

38. :o)

well played

[m-lekktor]

41. Please. Posts critical of Hillary get immediately removed, the anti Bernie posts always remain. nt

[LanternWaste]

46. Creative allegation which validates the current theory

Creative allegation lacking any objective to support it, which validates the current theory: politicians are criticized, while tin gods and sacred cows are attacked with "anti" posts.

[WoonTars]

53. It sure seems that way...

...doesn't it?

I thought the primaries were over and we were supposed to be fighting the common enemy, that orange-colored bigot sitting in the Oval Office...

[Initech]

50. The election is over!!! We lost!!!

Well, no, actually the election was stolen from us. But the point is we lost and we can't keep fighting the same battles. It's time to rebuild and go after the big bosses - Trump and McConnell. McConnell needs his ass kicked to the curb and its' our mission to make Trump a lame duck president. We can't do that if we're fighting last year's battles. Time to get to work!

[delisen]

51. Join forces! send message to Sanders to end public attacks on Dems

If you draft a letter that many on Dem Underground can support, I think it will no longer be an issue.