Hell has officially frozen over...

[redstatebluegirl]

I was walking the dogs this morning and ran into one of my crazy Trump loving neighbors. He is ex military and now works at Tinker Air Force Base. During the election he had 4 Trump signs in his yard and every time he ran into one of us he gave us grief about voting for Mrs. Clinton.

This morning he stopped me, he had a very serious look on his face when he said "I'm sorry for giving you guys a hard time about Clinton".....I took in my breath and said, "everyone is entitled to their opinion"he then said, "this guy scares the crap out of me". I almost fell over, I told him that I was scared as well but I have to trust that the Congress won't let him do anything stupid. His response, was "I sure hope you are right".

I mean this, if this guy has turned on Trump there is hope...

[roscoeroscoe]

1. Good story

Thank you for sharing this

[Barack_America]

2. Did you give him grief for putting him in office?

He deserves it.

[redstatebluegirl]

3. No, nothing to be gained from that, he knows he screwed up.

According to him, he really thought he would help the middle class. I know I know, he is a guilty guy. But it takes a lot to admit you screwed up. If we want to turn these people we can't go around telling them they are stupid. If you want to do that that is your choice, I choose not to.

[Salviati]

8. So now you need to subtly get him to recognize that there is no daylight between trump and the rest.

... of the republicans. Some of them may mouth words against him, but their actions back him 100%.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. +1. Good proactive action looking forward. . . nt

[yurbud]

82. that was the good thing about Trump--he showed that Republicans have so shit on their own brand

that only someone who claimed to oppose them on central issues could win the enthusiastic support of their base.

The only problem for them was a con man isn't a good bet to be a martyr for policies he didn't really give a shit about in the first place.

[FakeNoose]

11. Redstate you're right

There's nothing to be gained by criticizing people and giving them shit because they voted for Trump.

Be gracious and welcome them to our side. Maybe give them a membership form to join the Democratic Party.
At least fill them in on all the bad stuff the GOP is doing, when your friend wasn't paying attention.

[murielm99]

12. I think you are right.

Keep talking to him. Maybe he will vote for Democrats downticket in the primary and general.

Each of these people with buyer's remorse has to be handled individually. I know a few. They are very quiet right now, but may go into the voting booth and vote for Democrats. Those I know would never pull a Democratic ballot in the primary, but the general is another matter.

We have to keep turning them, one at a time.

[Cracklin Charlie]

16. There is an opening...

He may be ready to understand that you, a Democrat, and he, a Republican, actually share many of the same values, and the same beliefs about the direction of this nation.

The newly awakened can be very passionate, and ready to engage. It would be a shame to waste all that potential energy.

[rock]

17. True, it even sounds like he had good intentions

You know, the stuff they pave the road to Hell with. But I agree with you.

[cstanleytech]

27. I will never understand why some voters thought Trump would help the middle class at all

as Trump was born into a very wealthy family and he never had to live and struggle like one of the middle class and he has never shown even a smidgen of interest in helping them before he decided to use it as a soundbite for his campaign.

[LonePirate]

49. This is the second biggest mystery of the campaign to me.

There were countless lawsuits and other pieces of evidence that he was no friend to the common, working, middle class American and yet they still voted for him by the millions. Even since Inauguration Day, he has proven to be on the side of the wealthy and not on the side of regular Americans. I just don't get it.

And the biggest mystery is the near unanimous support he enjoys from evangelicals even though he is the most immoral, ungodly and least religious man ever elected president. The mind boggles as to why.

[renate]

53. I think it came down to the media they paid attention to

I doubt Fox said anything about how he stiffed his contractors, etc.

And while I don't understand why evangelical leaders threw their support behind him (I agree, that is absolutely mindboggling), I understand why the sheep in their flocks did. To do other than they were told to do would have been disobedient and un-Christian.

[MrPurple]

57. Because he's anti-abortion and is defunding Planned Parenthood

Most of the evangelicals don't know much history or details and follow disinforming media, and they latch onto being anti-abortion as representing practically everything.

[LiberalLovinLug]

66. On the surface it seems preposterous

But its all a perfect storm.

1.The MSM did a horrible job at highlighting those lawsuits, the stiffing of small businesses, the scandals involving shutting out black tenants, his own destruction of emails that the courts had ordered him to submit, his bankruptcies, etc

2. The MSM again for a separate point, in their coverage of Hillary. Pretty near every time she was mentioned, or a campaign guest was on, it was all about her email server use. I don't remember any segment spending the majority of time discussing her policy proposals. Other than the last couple of weeks, the MSM were desperate to spread the evil out. To balance the horse race as much as they could by dragging her down and making them both flawed to a degree. The difference was the MSM were leading that push against Hillary while allowing the Trump campaign to be the pushers, if you will, of his narrative - simply because every day he wrote the headlines from yet another outrageous line or deed and they just ran behind him.

3. The decades long vast right wing conspiracy against what were the two brightest stars to come out of the Democratic party for a long time; Bill and Hillary Clinton. I had issues with how they steered the party right, but the fact is the GOP were envious of their popularity and afraid of their influence. Meanwhile Clearchannel buys up all the daytime talk radio stations and only puts on RW hate jocks that carefully crafted a demon figure based solely on conspiracy theories based on invention. After a couple of decades of this brainwashing, it made folks froth at the mouth at the thought of Hillary as President.

4. Being on the side of the wealthy means something to those fighting from the left, but has been crafted to be seen as a bonus to many on the right. The false base of the belief that a wealthy person in charge, a successful businessman, will make everybody wealthy too. And so they don't want their future rich selves to have to pay half their earnings to pay for the lazy poor.

5. The mystery of the (I think) 80% Evangelical support. Its mostly about abortion. And to some degree gay marriage. And also watching pot be legalized. They hear every week from their pastors about the end of the world and sin taking over America with issues such as those. They know Trump promised to appoint a SCOTUS judge that will deny women's access to abortion. One wonders if Obama had managed to appoint Merrick Garland, and there was no hope for that particular wish to succeed, if they would have shown up to the polls much. Many were a one issue voter. They happily wore blinders to block out any and all 'locker room behaviour' as long as he answered their prayers and God used him to save unborn babies.

6. Trump in part created it, but it became the 'anti-establishment' election. And Trump won that award going away. Which is baffling as you say. But middle America defined 'establishment' as Washington politicians, especially Democratic ones. While Democrats, most notably those in the Bernie camp, defined 'establishment' as assholes like Trump and even bigger crooks up the chain. The ones that are holding the puppet strings on those Washington politicians.

[7962]

81. The least-conservative candidate all the "true conservatives" supported. Go figure!

never could figure it out

[lordsummerisle]

95. Just what I was thinking n/t

[Norbert]

48. I agree with Redstate

The guy has admitted he screwed up. There is no point in rubbing it in.

Most Trumpettes are so far up their kings ass they will never admit it.

[Chemisse]

69. Good for you.

Being gracious in the face of this admission is the only decent way to go.

I am really hoping many others are feeling the same way.

[Hortensis]

91. +1000, Redstatebluegirl. One thing, demonizing Democrats

has developed a conviction among those conservatives prone to it that anything else must be better, and that they could never hit bottom because that's on the other side of us.

Hillary Clinton was made the symbol of, a focus for hyperpartisan hate by the anti-tax/anti-regulation corporatists to defeat Democrats, liberalism, progressive government. Thus it seems to me that the mountain of lies conservative voters swallowed about her is both both their fortress wall of belief and their weak point.

After all, Hillary is the most scrutinized, spied upon, and investigated person in modern history by far. A quarter century of investigations have always found her innocent of all legal charges. All claims of genuine, serious breeches of ethics are unfounded. If the nation comes to see her more as she really is, a normal person, that fortress will crack open.

Of course it's a terrible mistake to push anyone to change his mind, but staying silent is problematic also.

Rump's administration is revving back up the ol' profit mill on student loan. This is news, and any discussion could include that the Democrats/Hillary still plan to stop profiteering from student loans, effectively a huge, incredibly stupid tax on higher education. That we still plan to make college affordable once again.

[HDSam]

6. Yeah

Because giving him grief will make it all better.

[July]

92. It won't, as the OP recognizes.

See Calimary's excellent post below about checking our anger and bringing Trumpists around.

But our anger has a cause. Did you see the part of the OP that mentions Mr. Ex-military's choice throughout the campaign to give them grief about supporting Clinton? The Trumpists were dogged and obnoxious for months. Hard to be too impressed when they finally consider some facts, and even harder, though smart, to treat them with the kindness they failed to show us.

[FakeNoose]

4. Yes it's happening all over

Be gracious because it's hard for them to admit they were wrong.

The important thing is that they SEE IT NOW and they see that Trump is ruining our country.
Maybe they'll even tell their friends.

We're all praying now, right? Our prayers will be answered.

[Cracklin Charlie]

20. I welcome their enthusiasm.

It's gonna take everyone we can get to help fix this mess.

[calimary]

45. NO KIDDING!

Oh MAN did you nail it, FakeNoose.

Hey, there isn't anyone who more ardently and ragingly wants to scream at those who voted for him - more than I do. One part of me wants them punished, facing consequences for an actively-taken, deliberate "I'm-mad-and-I'm-lashing-out-and-so-fuck-YOU" bad decision. Because you're angry. For Pete's sake, aren't we all, for one reason or another? But SHEESH, in many workplaces, a judgment call already proving disastrous, needlessly costly, and potentially catastrophic if not treasonous, that would be dismissible behavior (doing something bad enough to get you fired). And if YOU voluntarily chose that - especially when the truth was readily available to disprove it all - well, let's just say I have little patience or sympathy for self-inflicted wounds.

But my better self knows that I can't be a hard-ass, especially with deep wounds that are just barely starting to heal. It says a lot about the trump-supporter in the OP, who A) realized he got it wrong, B) accepted it, and C) attempted to make some amends by apologizing to you. That's a very difficult bridge to cross, particularly when you have long been heavily and emotionally invested in one viewpoint. To have your eyes opened - to finally see the unprecedented mess this spectacularly ignorant and sociopathic imposter has created before he's even hit the 100-day mark. This fellow, I bet, is one of those. This is a true grownup. One recognizing and accepting un-spun/unfiltered reality. This awakening awareness needs to be nurtured and handled with care, like a tiny baby shoot pushing up from underground into the sunlight for the first time. Tiny and tender and vulnerable now, but one day it might be a tree!

And you're so right that it's hard for people to admit they were wrong. Worse when it can also mean they were had. Nobody wants to admit they fell for the lies and the slick talk and the "populist" schtick. So we've gotta go easy on folks like these. Extra points and positive reinforcement. Smooth the way for this transitional thinking (an epiphany, if you will indulge my sudden urge to use religious terms). Folks like these can renew one's faith and provide new reasons to hope. They prove redemption is possible and is a real thing. Hah! A nice realization on Easter weekend, 'eh?

[Kittycow]

58. Well said, Calimary.

My crazy trump voting mother hasn't forwarded a RW email or mentioned him in months.

[jaysunb]

61. +1 n/t

[TransitJohn]

71. They do it every time, though.

Reagan, Bush*, now Cheetolini. How can we assume they won't do it again next time? They will.

[LeftishBrit]

89. They fortunately don't do it EVERY time (or not in large enough numbers) because you also had Bill

Clinton and Obama as presidents.

As an outsider, the Electoral College system seems to be due for reform yesterday. Two of the last five elections resulted in the 'election' of the candidate with fewer votes including American Psycho this time. Not that I can be smug as a Brit about how elections are handled, not after the insanity of the referendum.

[Demsrule86]

5. I have seen the same thing.

[briv1016]

7. At my job yesterday about a dozen co-workers were discusing how great the MOAB was in the break room

This is in NY.

[redstatebluegirl]

9. Just curious were they men?

I have found by and large it is the men who find his bombing people a sign of strength. I don't get nasty with these people but I do challenge them and ask if they really think a war with nukes is a good idea.

[briv1016]

24. My job is about 80% men anyway but it was a mix.

[jaysunb]

63. The people--men or women--that get off on this kind

of mass destruction have never seen or heard what the people in the target zone experience. They have no clue as to the kind of horrific death it brings or the images that will never leave your mind when you inspect and clean up the results.

Too much teevee, movies and their special effects. Video games that you just reset and kill them again the next day.

[WePurrsevere]

75. Ugh.. I'm sorry. There are parts of NY that are very red. Are you in one?

We live in red to purple area of NY, not to far from Fort Drum, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear some of the locals loving the use of the MOAB.

[lambchopp59]

10. I still... gah... speechless at how far in the sand

the Trumpeteers had buried their heads to not see what was plainly in front of them.

[Amaryllis]

21. you have to look at the media they consume. It was not plainly in front of them if they live

in the alternative universe of FAUX.

[VOX]

90. Good point.

It's a completely different way of perceiving the world. The contrast is amazingly sharp, like negative and positive polarities. It's as if we're separating into to different species.

[Amaryllis]

100. Parallel universes that have no point of intersection. I have expereinced this with my best friend

from college - it was during the Vietnam war late 60s. I lost track of her for about 20 years; found her again and she had married a R who turned her into a FAUX news watcher. We had to agree to never talk politics if we were going to remain friends. It was my intro to realizing they truly do live in a parallel universe with alternative facts and logic. It was shocking and horrifying, and I tried talking to her, but there literally is no point of intersection.

What you said about it being like different species...that is right. I have a lot of experience with people with very limited English and find communicating with them much easier; I can find common ground even with those from different cultures and limited English, but it's very hard to find common ground with those from the FAUX world. But like the OP said, if this guy has turned on Trump...maybe there is hope.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. When they admit like this, it is important to gently help them see how they got conned.

If you help them see the con, they can avoid RepubliCON lies later and be more likely to vote Democratic.

We could see tRump say both sides of issues BEFORE the election and so could they but they ignored it. For example he said NATO was obsolete and he said he'd support it.

We could see that tRump didn't pay his bills and shafted small contractors.

We could hear when tRump's family values ("grab her pussy", "sexual disease was my own Vietnam&quot were on full display before the election.

Especially for military, help them see that they overlooked the obvious: tRump's fake medical draft deferments, his statements that the Generals are stupid, and his overwhelming ignorance of his own monumental ignorance and his unwillingness to study or learn.

[LonePirate]

50. His "my military'" statement the other day should have every military member united against him.

That may have been the most terrifying thing he has since becoming president.

[riversedge]

15. whow. thanks for post. Hope reigns eternal, I always say.

[Grins]

18. You "trust that the Congress won't let him do anything stupid"?

You "trust that the Congress won't let him do anything stupid"?

You have more faith than I do with the deplorables who never blinked over throwing 24-million off their health care and racking up another Trillion in debt in the process? The forever-angry, paranoid, racists weasels who love the chaos and just want to watch the world burn?

[redstatebluegirl]

22. I get that, I just hold out hope that someone in Washington will stop him

before he gets us all blown to bits.

[csziggy]

68. Mentioning that might make the former Trump support contact their representatives

And since he was a hard core Trump supporter, he will be on record as a Republican voter whose voice matters to Republican congress members. That will count more than any dozen Democratic voters contacting them since Republican congress critters know we will never donate to them or vote for them.

The people showing up for the town halls are making an impact on many of these representatives - if those numbers are supplemented by historically Republican voters pushing against what Trump is doing, that will pound them more.

[Afromania]

19. At this point

there is nothing to be gained from I told you so-ing these people and you did the right thin, double thumbs up. However, nothing short of voting for Democrats next year then again in 2020 and forever forward with absolve them from doing this bullshit to us in the first place. Perhaps if they do this it will bring some humility and sanity to the Republican political collective.

[redstatebluegirl]

25. At least I feel like I can stop and talk to him when we are working our neighborhood

for Democrats. I really think he will listen this time. I think a lot of these people will feel so betrayed and lied to that they may never trust another politician. It will be slow work.

[Afromania]

39. Hey, I'm not going to argue

if they want to remove themselves from the process. As far as I'm concerned they completely invalidated their political views by pulling the lever for Trump. One can only hope that this translates into making more informed, less insane choices next time. I highly doubt it, but you never know.

[LakeArenal]

23. Senator Clinton.

[redstatebluegirl]

26. Correct, I do my best. I would never do anything to disrespect someone I respect as much as I do

Senator Clinton.

[MiniMe]

30. Actually, Secretary of State Clinton

[redstatebluegirl]

34. Please all due respect....I worked for her, I voted for her. I am a 62 year old woman

who understands that words matter, but picking every post apart gets old sometimes. I respect what you are saying, and I will promise to do better, but don't pick this apart looking for something to dislike. I am so happy about this encounter with him that nothing anyone at DU says can bring me down right now.

[MiniMe]

36. I was replying to the poster who posted Senator Clinton, not to your post

Not trying to squabble or bring anybody now

[LakeArenal]

46. I stand gratefully corrected..

Thanks.

[karynnj]

84. Technically, Senator Clinton is more correct

The title Senator can be used before someone who once was Senator. This is just like President. The common reason is you are elected into it. Contrary to usage - as you read Secretary Powell, Secretary Albright decades after leaving office - only the current person is supposed to be called SoS.

However, both Secretary Kerry and Secretary Clinton seem more "normal" - though I would have preferred President in both cases!

[JHan]

101. What I wouldn't give..

For Kerry to be Sec of State right now.

And he would have been a sober, cerebral sort as President.

[karynnj]

102. Definately

I met him with lots of the DU JK people. I was surprised at how serious and focused he was and how intensely committed he was to environmental and peace issues. However, we also saw that there was clearly also a "fun" side of him, especially when his wife was speaking to us. ( This was before their book on the environment was released.)

I think what might have surprised people had he become President at that funnier side and how much an idealist he is and how nice a person he is. Not to mention, we would have gotten to know Teresa, who is incredible better.

[Kath2]

28. That is nice to hear.

But I'm afraid there are not many like him.

Just my thought.

[redstatebluegirl]

29. I thought so too but he is the last person I thought would EVER turn on him.

He was a crazy Trump guy. He had a big picture of him in his front window, 4 signs and a metal sign on his truck. He was CRAZY....

[MiniMe]

31. Is the sign still on his truck?

[redstatebluegirl]

32. It has been gone for a while now.

[Kath2]

33. Maybe because he was military.

He may be concerned about a war starting.

[redstatebluegirl]

35. I know he lost some friends in Iraq, his wife said it changed him a great deal.

We didn't know him when he was in the military.

[Kath2]

37. People who were in war usually don't want to see it.

Trump is very reckless about using force. He may see that.

[ancianita]

38. Chumps never take the time to think, but always take the time for "sorry." Sorry is a sorry word.

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Trumps chumps are dupes of words over deeds,
fools for good intentions over judicious action,
penny wise on the front end, pound foolish on the back end.

Trump chumps, like their dear leader, know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

40. I'm amazed at the apology!!!!

Apologies are rare from anyone, and especially when it comes to trumpanzees.

[redstatebluegirl]

70. He was always a complete gentleman, very cordial until the Trump thing.

He could yes Maam you to death. While I was surprised, if anyone in our neighborhood would say "I'm sorry" it would be this man, or his kids.

[barbtries]

41. great that he was grown up enough to say so to you

now we need him to join the resistance and get active

[Kath2]

42. Right on.

[gratuitous]

43. Stay in touch and keep working on him

If he's really sorry, he may be in a mood to make amends or do some penance. He's probably got some equally conservative friends he can talk with. Youneverknow.

[pangaia]

44. I hope you will let him know, in whatever way you deem best,

that the entire republican party is a destructive, sociopathic evil force out to destroy all of humanity.. INCLUDING your neighbor and his children and his children's children.

[bathroommonkey76]

47. Congress is not going to stop Trump

Trump doesn't answer to anyone - His first 100 days should give you an idea of what to expect. I'm afraid Comey and the intel community are the only ones capable of reeling in this orange whale.

[samnsara]

51. wow good for him..that took a lot to admit...

...have him get involved in The Resistance or Indivisible

[Warpy]

52. Only the real dunderheads who are completely blinded by bigotries

and star struck by pop culture still support that man-baby. Anyone with a brain has abandoned him, even if they never admit it to us or a telephone pollster.

That kind of belligerent ignorance is deeply frightening.

[no_hypocrisy]

54. Almost as good: my sister voted for Trump and explained that "Hillary scares me."

Last week on the phone, she went 180 and confided that "Trump scares me."

[Skittles]

55. people like your neighbor scare the crap out of me

people whose bigotry and lack of critical thinking skills helped install that incompetent piece of shit into the White House

Honestly, WTF IS WRONG WITH THEM

[elmac]

56. I haven't talked to my tRump loving neighbor since he proclaimed his love

for the Orange baboon last August. Also cut ties to tRump loving relatives who depended on me for help. Life is too short for stupid.

[C Moon]

59. I'm in Southern California, and I just heard my two senior neighbors defending

Trump. For once, they sound concerned, though.
Boggles the mind.

[LisaM]

60. Trump-loving acquaintance from my high school just turned, too.

With her, it was over animal rights issues. I just said that during the election one of the big pet stores shared the animal policies for the Presidential and VP candidates and Trump came in dead last and just left it there. But for him to lose her is major and she won't change her mind.

[Ilsa]

62. Another forum I visit has stopped

discussing DT and saying "just give him a chance." I think there is buyers' remorse there, but they still believe all of the internet lies about Hillary Clinton. I think some of them are starting to see how much 45 lied during the campaign and how unstable he is. And these are reasonably intelligent people.

I think 39% Approval is overstated.

[Ragrum]

64. my level of dispair is only mitigated with my hope that the aliens come....

my level of dispair is only mitigated with my hope that the aliens come save us.

[Paladin]

65. All my trump-supporting acquaintances have gone REALLY quiet. (nt)

[humbled_opinion]

67. Yeah except

His poll numbers are going up because he is being perceived as tough. Time to bring him back to earth, I expect Democratic lawmakers to start impeachment proceedings soon. Can we get a judge to order that he has no authority to bomb other countries unless he gets permission from Congress FIRST.

[Gothmog]

72. Thanks for posting

[Crash2Parties]

73. Trump voters need to know that the GOP Congress backs Trump!

They would already be stopping him & they wouldn't be in all those signing photo ops, nor passing the bills he signs.

Plus the top dozen or so at the GOP colluded as much with Russia as the Trump campaign did.

[IronLionZion]

74. Good! Many active duty military think Trump is a dangerous buffoon

and is going to drag us into unnecessary wars (despite campaign promises to the contrary) to boost his sagging poll numbers and compensate for his small hands

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

76. Thanks (K&R)

We need more encouragement and reality like this to win in the future.

[Laffy Kat]

77. Well that's an encouraging sign.

I hope it represents a coming change. Thanks for posting.

[Edina]

78. Hope

Great story. I hope there are many others like this one as time passes and Trump deteriorates. I actually have more hope that Republicans will regret being anti-Hillary than I do for some die hard Bernie Sanders supporters. There is still a lot of Hillary hate on the Left. If we want to be the strongest and most effective politically, we are going to have to be united.

I am reading a book that just came out, "The Destruction of Hillary Clinton" by Susan Bordo. There have been a few on-line articles about the book and some of the comments from Sander's supporters are so hateful...I think most of them have actually not even opened the pages of the book and are just reacting to some reviews and social media. I recommend the book, whether you were a Clinton supporter or not. There is much to learn and shows where we as Democrats need to counter the RW hate machine that unfortunately, our youngest voters have bought into and pulled into the Left of our Party.

What happened to Hillary Clinton has happened to a degree to other Democrats but not to this extreme and the Left's hatred of her is disturbing. I expect a conservative mindset to hate Hillary Clinton, it is disconcerting when it comes from so-called Progressives. I am not sure where it leaves us. Really, as Democrats hoping to gain the Senate back and I hope the WH in 2020 we can not risk having the candidate destroyed with the help of our own Party.

[jackssonjack]

86. I couldn't have said it better!

I too am sick of the continued Hillary hate-fest from Progressives. She's done so much for so many and all it really takes is a couple hours and a serious look at her background to see this. At the very least take one of those "lies" from the 13 min of lies video and see why she changed her mind. There were those that complained that she should shift to the left and when she did they called her a "flip-flopper". There was no winning. It was like a political 'Mean Girls' .

[Bengus81]

79. Little to late bub,he's IN and will be for FOUR years......n/t

[proud patriot]

80. This really made my day

Smiling

[NoMoreRepugs]

83. Until Repukes in Congress take notice does

It matter what the populace thinks? Just askin'..

[Honeycombe8]

87. Whoa. nt

[Sunlei]

88. I think Americans with military experience are concerned about the several aggressive attacks

Republicans allowed newbie Trump & gang to 'authorize'.

Veterans understand how quickly that reckless shit can snowball into a war or even worse make America a target of "endless revenge attacks"

[Laura PourMeADrink]

93. couldn't be too many...approvals at 41%. may be winning

Back the saner cream if crop but that is it and not nearly enough to remove him from office. Sadly

[paulkienitz]

94. My favorite Trumpie is also starting to feel the disappointment

I thought he would have turned against Trump sooner, but I guess an extra five weeks to come to terms with the awful truth is not unreasonable.

This is someone who came to Trump from the left, more or less. He hates neocons, and includes Hillary in that category. He thinks the Russia story is neocon propaganda, as is everything else in the New York Times. He thinks the Arab Spring was a CIA plot. He doesn't like globalism. And now Trump is trading in his nationalism for policies much more compatible with mainstream GOP
globalism , he feels that the transformative administration he voted for is "effectively over".

The way he explains this to himself is to guess that Trump has been "rolled" by congressional republicans. He has a ways to go, I guess, before he can let in the obvious fact that Trump never did give one millishit for working people.

[ismnotwasm]

96. So yesterday, I was in Forks, Washington

A small, economically oppressed town, Smack in the middle of Trump country, located on the Olympic peninsula. People might know it from the "Twilight" series.

There, standing on the main street, were a handful of Tax day protesters against Trump--15 people maybe. This is a town that had a huge "Loggers for Trump" sign on the outskirts of town, and whose members will go on and on about the Spotted Owl ruling destroying logging in the area.

That handful of people showed a "yard of guts", as Stephan King likes to say. They stood in dignity and resistance and they will never know how brightly they shined to me.

[redstatebluegirl]

97. Yes they did. So did the people in Oklahoma City who marched yesterday.

I could not be there but I had friends who went. It wasn't as big as the turnout for the women's march but it was in the 100's. This state is BRIGHT RED, but there are some cracks showing. I will be at the March for Science next week in OKC with some students from OU.

Having this guy do what he did yesterday gives me great hope. I left a note on his door this morning for the March next Saturday, who knows I may see him there.

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99. +1000

[Binders Keepers]

98. It would have been more impressive if,

instead of being motivated by fear of a war w/ No. Korea & the shallow wish to save his own skin, this guy had objected on principle to the many moral outrages of the Trump administration and of Trump personally. But Republicans only know self-interest.