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Bernie on "Inners" last night (Original Post) FDRsGhost Apr 2017 OP
Keep speaking out Senator. pangaia Apr 2017 #1
If he only had a D next to his name. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #2
Does that REALLY matter?? disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #3
It doesn't. That's why I winked. nt StubbornThings Apr 2017 #4
Sorry.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #5
No worries. We good. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #6
Actually, I'd say it does. Adrahil Apr 2017 #7
You would think that Bernie's endorsed candidate won the DNC Chair race... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #8
But isn't above trashing it publicly. Adrahil Apr 2017 #10
Criticism isn't trashing FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #13
IMHO, he lobs generic "criticisms" at teh party all the time... Adrahil Apr 2017 #19
"Generic"? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #20
The idea that the UN is 'one-sided' is ridiculous beyond words Kentonio Apr 2017 #23
"Parties exist because they multiply power" disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #15
If you don't believe in the power of parties, why are you here? NT Adrahil Apr 2017 #17
We've lost over 1,000 seats, I want each one back! FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #21
It's the internet.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #22
Bernie doesn't work with others? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #12
I know you're like 'im, that's cool, I like him too. Adrahil Apr 2017 #16
Who the hell cares FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #18
Such a silly tempest in a teapot. Bernie does more for our party than many nominal Dems. JudyM Apr 2017 #24
Ahh sarcasm FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #11
oh really? Skittles Apr 2017 #9
You may want to read this written 24 hours ago FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #14
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
7. Actually, I'd say it does.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:26 AM
Apr 2017

Ultimately, he needs to commit to working with others, and not just picking and choosing when he wants to unite.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,920 posts)
8. You would think that Bernie's endorsed candidate won the DNC Chair race...
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:31 AM
Apr 2017

...the way Sanders is running around the nation now arm in arm with Tom Perez.

Actually Sanders has a long Congressional record of workings with others to further ideals and legislation backed by the Democratic Party.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
10. But isn't above trashing it publicly.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:46 AM
Apr 2017

He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He really needs to commit. Parties exist because they multiply power. For some reason, Bernie refuses to see that. If he REALLY wants to make a difference, he needs to commit.

Here at DU, we even say that we recognize that we need to elect DEMOCRATS. That's the point of this place.
 

FDRsGhost

(470 posts)
13. Criticism isn't trashing
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 11:01 AM
Apr 2017

Was this trashing the party too when Schumer expressed his displeasure with the Obama administration on twitter?







 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
19. IMHO, he lobs generic "criticisms" at teh party all the time...
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 12:28 PM
Apr 2017

... and since he isn't actually IN the party, that feeds the bullshit "both parties are just as bad" meta-narrative. Bernie seems to be unable to see that he feeds that kind of thing. We even get it here on occasion (before MIRT gets to them).

 

FDRsGhost

(470 posts)
20. "Generic"?
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 12:31 PM
Apr 2017

No he says what's wrong and how things have to change then goes ahead and says how best to accomplish this. Just like he did last night on "Inners". he is IN the party, he is a leadership roll and until someone can tell me how he doesn't do what every other Dem senator does, I will hold true to that position.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
23. The idea that the UN is 'one-sided' is ridiculous beyond words
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:11 PM
Apr 2017

It's basically saying 'the rest of the world disagree with us, so we should ignore them'.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
15. "Parties exist because they multiply power"
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 11:19 AM
Apr 2017

If that was the case.. hows that worked out in Congress, Senate & the Presidency??

When is it time for a party to re-evaluate it's failures?? Before or after they become irrelevant?

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
22. It's the internet..
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 12:36 PM
Apr 2017

are you now the doorman at DU??

Parties fluctuate, and it seems tilting to the right is en vogue the last couple decades.. we'll get the pendulum back to the left only by pulling & pushing..

 

FDRsGhost

(470 posts)
12. Bernie doesn't work with others?
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:59 AM
Apr 2017

Who's out with Perez giving a tour right now? Who has a Dem leadership roll? On and on.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
16. I know you're like 'im, that's cool, I like him too.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 12:25 PM
Apr 2017

But I do feel like he wants to have influence the party, but be outside of it. That kind of pisses me off. I'd love for Bernie to embrace being a Democrat, but he won't. Until he does, he's a bit of a double-edged sword.

 

FDRsGhost

(470 posts)
18. Who the hell cares
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 12:27 PM
Apr 2017

Seriously, who cares. Issues matter, policy matters, he caucuses with Dems, people speak of "purity" yet we see it here on full display with this. He is in Dem leadership FFS!

JudyM

(29,347 posts)
24. Such a silly tempest in a teapot. Bernie does more for our party than many nominal Dems.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 11:13 PM
Apr 2017

People would be more comfortable if they didn't let foolish inconsistencies bend them all out of shape. A big So What is all that is. Drama we don't need within our ranks.

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