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Pacifist Patriot

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Government first seeks to protect itself. Apparently that extends to Warpy Apr 2017 #1
Well said. volstork Apr 2017 #2
Parker was a lot more optimistic than I am Warpy Apr 2017 #5
The 'arc of history' is a lovely sentiment but seems to be in reverse now SharonClark Apr 2017 #50
Last I heard, Obama was in Tahiti. cwydro Apr 2017 #10
He's out of office and it was never his job Warpy Apr 2017 #14
I completely agree. cwydro Apr 2017 #42
Whatever Obama ends up doing or not doing not fooled Apr 2017 #63
Those are executive agencies. Obama was their boss. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #51
It's called the rule of law. volstork Apr 2017 #33
obama would have set a dangerous precedent? tomp Apr 2017 #18
So...you're saying that our president IS a dangerous precedent? PatrickforO Apr 2017 #35
The arc of history bends clear out of sight FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #19
I love that MLK quote. I guess it's MLK. About the arc of history. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #34
Great quote. MLK Jr was quoting Unitarian.. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2017 #47
That was the most reasonable thing I've read since this happened. Thanks. nt C Moon Apr 2017 #29
Thank you for this AwakeAtLast Apr 2017 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Apr 2017 #48
To me, the hypocrisy is glaring. no_hypocrisy Apr 2017 #53
Think of government as a living, breathing NoMoreRepugs Apr 2017 #60
WTF is RIGHT!! Talk about a rigged system! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #3
The problem as i understand it was that there is a very longstanding policy pnwmom Apr 2017 #4
rather unfortunate longstanding policy maxsolomon Apr 2017 #6
They investigated Hillary. boston bean Apr 2017 #9
Well, they closed it before the general. But it's true that they re-opened it in October and they pnwmom Apr 2017 #11
Talk about dismayed. world wide wally Apr 2017 #7
The answer to your scary question is more frightening... Moostache Apr 2017 #16
I am completely dismayed myself, too... GetRidOfThem Apr 2017 #22
I could care less about the long arc of history! My concern is all the work that has been done Liberal In Red State Apr 2017 #8
This is simple really yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #12
And what REALLY enrages me is to watch these unelected FUCKS destroy our country. BigDemVoter Apr 2017 #13
The FBI/Comey was too busy investigating Hillary's emails NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #15
yet they came out with that bullshit about Hillary's emails Skittles Apr 2017 #17
Yes, and it breaks my heart. LisaM Apr 2017 #38
Truly, it is because of the fundamental principle: "Innocent until proven guilty". Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #20
The truth was hidden from the public because elmac Apr 2017 #21
As the USA has had a huge number of people in the military BSdetect Apr 2017 #24
And YET...Comey felt the need to say HRC still under investigation 10 days before the election! Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #23
Well it's history now...this jerk is president jimjc Apr 2017 #25
All academic now, trump to start worldwide thermonuclear war in NK, turn on the tv. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #26
He would kill his own grandchildren. Demtexan Apr 2017 #45
NO, not his grandchildren, but all other grandchildren are fair game SharonClark Apr 2017 #52
Because it depends on the republicans who have the majority in Congress still_one Apr 2017 #27
Trump wasn't supposed to win. dchill Apr 2017 #28
Mitch Fucking McConnell. He did this. Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #31
What I don't understand is big fucking deal if they accused Obama of playing partisan politics? CrispyQ Apr 2017 #61
Some things are more important than an election GliderGuider Apr 2017 #32
redumbliCONs lie, cheat and steal before, during and after elections. democratisphere Apr 2017 #36
And will this historic clusterfuck ever be set right? VOX Apr 2017 #37
Top Republicans were in on the treason, because of the Perfect Storm--House, Senate, SC on the line. 0nirevets Apr 2017 #39
It's what happens when mainstream politicians fail LittleBlue Apr 2017 #40
I keep shaking my head, what happened? Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #41
I find myself doing the same thing ... Greywing Apr 2017 #44
He and his team were a creative bunch. Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #54
you can't stop progress, only delay it. pansypoo53219 Apr 2017 #43
Yep Meowmee Apr 2017 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #49
I've been on outrage overload for so long, it has become the new normal Martin Eden Apr 2017 #55
his supporters do not care that Russia was running our election. He would have still won. Hamlette Apr 2017 #56
It is clear to me that the FBI and intelligence services would have done anything to prevent Nitram Apr 2017 #57
All this just showing us that we are fucked! BlueJac Apr 2017 #58
I'd call my Rep and bitch Plucketeer Apr 2017 #59
I had a glimmer of hope during the House hearings, but it's gone now. CrispyQ Apr 2017 #62

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
1. Government first seeks to protect itself. Apparently that extends to
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 05:42 PM
Apr 2017

upstart millionaires buying their way into it.

Second, government wants to maintain order at any cost. Outing the millionaire as a crook and Russian dupe with a staff full of spies and agents might have upset people and caused disorder. It's just not done.

So we have a Russian dupe in office and government is picking off the spies and agents one by one, isolating him. However, they won't provoke civil disorder by going after him unless the civil disorder already exists and getting rid of him is the only way to pacify it.

Once you understand this, a lot of things will start to make sense.

volstork

(5,394 posts)
2. Well said.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 05:50 PM
Apr 2017

Same reason Obama didn't swoop in wearing a cape to save the day. It would have set a dangerous precedent that could be used to advantage by, shall we say, the wrong element (trump et al).

Remember, "The arc of history is long, but it bends towards justice."

History is on our side. It will just take a while to see the justice.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
5. Parker was a lot more optimistic than I am
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 05:56 PM
Apr 2017

History is too full of horrific men who did horrific things and ended up dying rich and in a feather bed, surrounded by loving family.

I think the best we can do to bad men running headlong into disaster is try to trip them.

SharonClark

(10,005 posts)
50. The 'arc of history' is a lovely sentiment but seems to be in reverse now
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:17 AM
Apr 2017

there are just too many horrible people all over the world destroying the lives of too many people, the planet, endangered species, etc., that it is hard to grasp the enormity of it.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. Last I heard, Obama was in Tahiti.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:19 PM
Apr 2017

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for him to speak up on any of this.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
14. He's out of office and it was never his job
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:33 PM
Apr 2017

It was the job of intelligence agencies and law enforcement, the people who are picking off the worst of the crooks one by one.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
42. I completely agree.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:32 PM
Apr 2017

But I remember posters here going on and on about how he "would never desert us."

He's gonna be just like every other past president.

Well, except for Carter - who literally walks the walk.

not fooled

(5,791 posts)
63. Whatever Obama ends up doing or not doing
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 05:12 PM
Apr 2017

time will tell.

But, after 8+ years of the most vile treatment at the hands of vicious pukes, if anyone has earned the right to depart public life, he is that person.





sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
51. Those are executive agencies. Obama was their boss.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:18 AM
Apr 2017

volstork

(5,394 posts)
33. It's called the rule of law.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:41 PM
Apr 2017

N/T

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
18. obama would have set a dangerous precedent?
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:48 PM
Apr 2017

what the fuck do you think trump is? which is better a dangerous precedent that sets things right or a dangerous precedent that fucks the entire planet?

PatrickforO

(14,516 posts)
35. So...you're saying that our president IS a dangerous precedent?
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:55 PM
Apr 2017

Sorry, couldn't resist that play on words...


I quite agree.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
19. The arc of history bends clear out of sight
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:49 PM
Apr 2017

Who the hell knows what it ultimately bends toward?

(It sure hasn't been bending toward justice just lately!)

PatrickforO

(14,516 posts)
34. I love that MLK quote. I guess it's MLK. About the arc of history.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:54 PM
Apr 2017

Sigh.

It's SO HARD not to want justice

Pacifist Patriot

(24,647 posts)
47. Great quote. MLK Jr was quoting Unitarian..
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 06:44 AM
Apr 2017

Minister Theodore Parker. Paraphrasing I think. Recall he put his own twist in it. In bed on my phone so too lazy to find citations. 😊

C Moon

(12,188 posts)
29. That was the most reasonable thing I've read since this happened. Thanks. nt
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:16 PM
Apr 2017

AwakeAtLast

(14,112 posts)
30. Thank you for this
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:23 PM
Apr 2017

So what happens when he's isolated? Can we expect him to pull a Nixon?

Response to Warpy (Reply #1)

no_hypocrisy

(45,774 posts)
53. To me, the hypocrisy is glaring.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:41 AM
Apr 2017

Myriads of victims of Joe McCarthy lost their employment, their money, their families, their lives to merely being accused of communism (and hence, sympathy for Russia) in the Fifties. And half a century later, we have an unabashed Russian sympathizer and dupe in the White House.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,260 posts)
60. Think of government as a living, breathing
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 04:02 PM
Apr 2017

organism and it makes sense that eradicating the current environment is going to take time and a massive consensus

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,110 posts)
3. WTF is RIGHT!! Talk about a rigged system!
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 05:53 PM
Apr 2017

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
4. The problem as i understand it was that there is a very longstanding policy
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 05:56 PM
Apr 2017

not to conduct intelligence operations against people involved in election campaigns. So, for example, they didn't feel comfortable investigating Carter Page till he had left the DT campaign in August.

maxsolomon

(32,992 posts)
6. rather unfortunate longstanding policy
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:05 PM
Apr 2017

since the collusion likely occurred earlier than that. say, prior to Manafort coming on as campaign mgr.

but I doubt the IC ever imagined there'd be an election like this.

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
9. They investigated Hillary.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:18 PM
Apr 2017

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
11. Well, they closed it before the general. But it's true that they re-opened it in October and they
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:20 PM
Apr 2017

should never have announced that.

world wide wally

(21,719 posts)
7. Talk about dismayed.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:07 PM
Apr 2017

I have lost so much faith in America, I almost hate to say it, but what if this was all exposed before the election and all these racists voted for him anyway?
Does America think anything, even fascism, is better than civil rights for all?
Have we degenerated that far as a country?
I don't know.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
16. The answer to your scary question is more frightening...
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:45 PM
Apr 2017

YES...they would have voted for him anyway...

Think about it in these terms...the single LEAST qualified candidate in the history of the republic - INDEPENDENT of any collusion or treason with the Russians - won a bare majority in the convoluted Electoral College while LOSING the popular vote by more than 3 million votes.

Clinton was imminently qualified in temperament AND government experience AND international diplomacy to handle the current world stage and she was beaten by a lying, ill-tempered, short-fused, faux-colored asshat.

The people that voted for him wanted to put their thumb in the eyes of urban centers, liberals, people who believe in equality and basically anyone not lying through their teeth to them on their TVs and radios (ie. - they MAINLINED the Kool-Aid, 24/7 and they huffed cans of hate for good measure.)

They are not just deplorables, they are antisocial assholes.

They would have voted for him like he said, even he shot someone on 5th avenue....ironically one of the few times that truth passed his lips.

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
22. I am completely dismayed myself, too...
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:01 PM
Apr 2017

My first reaction was to do my paperwork and get my German passport back, which I haven't had since I was 14. I have an appointment with the embassy next Tuesday. I am so sick of what I am seeing, and how this is progressing...

8. I could care less about the long arc of history! My concern is all the work that has been done
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:16 PM
Apr 2017

Over the past decades is being nullified on a daily basis by this dorito mousollini! Today Planned Parenthood! What next!!!!!!

yuiyoshida

(41,764 posts)
12. This is simple really
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:24 PM
Apr 2017

The Republicans control the government. The House, the Senate, the Supreme court, the White House...who will impeach him? ask any Republican Representative,

"will you impeach the President?"


"No, we won't "


Whoomp! (There It Is)

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
13. And what REALLY enrages me is to watch these unelected FUCKS destroy our country.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:32 PM
Apr 2017

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
15. The FBI/Comey was too busy investigating Hillary's emails
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:39 PM
Apr 2017

Or not. Comey announced a "maybe an investigation will follow" then, too late, said "nothing there." Meanwhile, he sat on the Russian involvement.

I am still sick over it. And red-hot angry.

Skittles

(152,966 posts)
17. yet they came out with that bullshit about Hillary's emails
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:46 PM
Apr 2017

while Trump Inc was being investigated for COLLUDING WITH A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT

and yes, OBAMA knew about it

SERIOUSLY fucked up

LisaM

(27,762 posts)
38. Yes, and it breaks my heart.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:20 PM
Apr 2017

I've wanted Hillary for president since 2008, and this is absolutely wrenching for me. I don't understand how there are people in this country who at some point can't reflect on what a different country this would be if Gore, or Kerry, and now Hillary had been in office. It's just sickening.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,789 posts)
20. Truly, it is because of the fundamental principle: "Innocent until proven guilty".
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:57 PM
Apr 2017

Think it through. It's the "proven" part that takes time to build. In criminal cases you have to [font size = "+1"]prove the charge "beyond a reasonable doubt".[/font]

It's a high hurdle and we don't like it any more than a hard-right guy likes it when somebody (perhaps of color) is accused of violent crime. But we both live with it (when we pause to think about it) because we know that it helps protect the innocent.

This case is very large and complex. It is bigger and more involved than Watergate, which took two years. Watergate did not have a foreign antagonistic nation attacking us. It did not involved a rat's nest maze of numbered corporations and shady wire transfers. It did not involve tax-dodging sneaky business people highly skilled at hiding dealings.
 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
21. The truth was hidden from the public because
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 06:58 PM
Apr 2017

the CIA and FBI are full of rightwing nut jobs and military industrialists puppets. There will be no justice.

BSdetect

(8,989 posts)
24. As the USA has had a huge number of people in the military
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:05 PM
Apr 2017

there is a great deal of "patriotic" fervor and willingness to crush opponents. Its a culture of conformity in many ways.

And the militia nutjobs would be only too glad to suppress any revolt or even demonstrations.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. And YET...Comey felt the need to say HRC still under investigation 10 days before the election!
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:02 PM
Apr 2017

But not one word about ...BTW, we are investigating the possible criminal actions of Trump and his team for colluding with a foreign enemy country in the election process...and we've got so many communications and other evidence to sift through, that we're only halfway through!

 

jimjc

(69 posts)
25. Well it's history now...this jerk is president
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:09 PM
Apr 2017

The problem is... what we have learned going forward is

that you can lie through your teeth and WIN and win by

telling lies so big so unbelievable only idiots will believe it,

that's how he won....it's a sad day but I don't believe he

will enjoy any respect as time goes on, in fact he will be

rebuked by the majority...

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
26. All academic now, trump to start worldwide thermonuclear war in NK, turn on the tv.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:10 PM
Apr 2017

The prick does not want to face justice, so he will start a war.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
45. He would kill his own grandchildren.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 03:13 AM
Apr 2017

He would start a war before going down.

SharonClark

(10,005 posts)
52. NO, not his grandchildren, but all other grandchildren are fair game
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 08:21 AM
Apr 2017

still_one

(91,965 posts)
27. Because it depends on the republicans who have the majority in Congress
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:13 PM
Apr 2017

dchill

(38,324 posts)
28. Trump wasn't supposed to win.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:13 PM
Apr 2017

This is the huge, mind bending flaw in whatever the strategy might have been.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
31. Mitch Fucking McConnell. He did this.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:26 PM
Apr 2017

McConnell was working toward to keep the intelligence already gathered by the IC to be masked. From what I understand, Turtle tried to keep the CIA from releasing the information by threatening to blame the Obama White House of playing a game of partisan politics.

That's why this information wasn't released prior to the Election. The right wing propaganda machine would have polluted the truth with its own set of lies and misdirections, and the poor electorate wouldn't know which way was up.

This way sucks worse for us because, even if Trump is brought to justice, the election stands and the Democrats lost. It sucks because we didn't really lose. We won, but their cheating sans a constitutional provision in place to address it means the cheater wins even if he loses.

CrispyQ

(36,231 posts)
61. What I don't understand is big fucking deal if they accused Obama of playing partisan politics?
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 04:55 PM
Apr 2017

He risked a compromised election to avoid being accused of this? Is there something I'm missing, cuz I would have said, "Accuse away, Mitch. I'm going public with this info."

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
32. Some things are more important than an election
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 07:29 PM
Apr 2017

Like the survival of the nation. I think that's what's at stake here, and have thought that ever since someone here mentioned the name "Dugin", and I went Googling.

If it took electing an unpleasant homunculus like Trump to flush that threat into the open, so be it. Better a year of suffering under Trump than a century as the Angola of North America.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
36. redumbliCONs lie, cheat and steal before, during and after elections.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:06 PM
Apr 2017

Nothing new here!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
37. And will this historic clusterfuck ever be set right?
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:18 PM
Apr 2017

Where do we go from here? Will our government (or our country!) ever be configured as it was before this?
With Citizens United and gerrymandering, will there ever be a "fair" election again? Is it going to be one-party rule from here on?

Is this how American democracy dies? I'm fucking serious. We are in completely new territory now. The old paradigm has been blown to pieces, just vaporized.

0nirevets

(390 posts)
39. Top Republicans were in on the treason, because of the Perfect Storm--House, Senate, SC on the line.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:20 PM
Apr 2017

The flaw in our separation-of-powers system is that if you have a majority in all three branches, then there's no way to hold the crooks accountable, and that is exactly what's happening here. Clearly some big name Republicans were in on the Trump-Russia treason, and if Hillary had won they knew it would come out. I think the Republican Party has become a treasonous scam, ends justify any and all means. But talk to street level Republicans they think this is all hunky dory. I doubt Trump will ever be held accountable, and I predict he will NOT be impeached.
Some sad shit, right there.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
40. It's what happens when mainstream politicians fail
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:21 PM
Apr 2017

Same thing happened in Britain with the Brexit. Same thing is happening in France with the surge of far-right and far-left pro Putinistas. Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Serbia, etc. In Britain the once strong Labour party has been reduced to nothing by the Tories.

The modern world has been shaped by liberalism. This is the failure of modern liberalism to connect to the people.

A Brit told it to me straight. Once labor is divorced from liberalism, it loses its cohesion as a movement. We haven't seen it here as strongly because the Republicans are retarded. If we had to face a group like Theresa May's Tories, we'd be getting destroyed like so many other western countries. The labor movement was the cement holding us together, and now it's dying a slow death to Walmart jobs and Amazon robots.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
41. I keep shaking my head, what happened?
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:24 PM
Apr 2017

Obama was in the WH. Did intelligence not tell him of all the Russian interference? I don't get it. I keep wondering what Obama was doing or thinking about all that. Why didn't he do something? Why didn't he tell us?

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
44. I find myself doing the same thing ...
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 11:37 PM
Apr 2017

I don't get it either. President Obama must have had at least one briefing if not several. Was he concerned that he would be accused of interfering in the election? I just don't understand ...

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
54. He and his team were a creative bunch.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 09:05 AM
Apr 2017

I would like to think they could have come up with some way of telling America what was going on and not make it sound like he was interfering in the election. Hell, COMEY, WTF! he announces more email hunting of HRC and says nothing of a counterintelligence investigation since July 2015. I won't be able to get over that one. I am looking forward to the results of the investigation of Comey's actions. Who is doing that btw? Oh, I'm sure it is a buddy of his and nothing will come of it. Anyway, Obama is a smart guy and I just don't understand why he didn't tell America that treason was brewing.

pansypoo53219

(20,906 posts)
43. you can't stop progress, only delay it.
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 10:52 PM
Apr 2017

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
46. Yep
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 03:54 AM
Apr 2017

Someone should've leaked it all. Obama, Comey, dems etc. and whomever else knew. The whole country is going down the toilet. Insanity rules now.

Response to Pacifist Patriot (Original post)

Martin Eden

(12,803 posts)
55. I've been on outrage overload for so long, it has become the new normal
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:35 PM
Apr 2017

... like a frog in the proverbial pot of water with the stove burners turned on.

Hamlette

(15,394 posts)
56. his supporters do not care that Russia was running our election. He would have still won.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 02:02 PM
Apr 2017

so, to release what we knew then would not have helped. I'm not sure if it would have helped if the FBI had arrested him for treason.

He would have had to have been convicted to be removed from the ballot (I think) and unless he was removed from the ballot, or maybe convicted of treason, he would have still won.

With all of Trump's flip flops since taking office it seem obvious why he won. People believed he would do the things he said he would do. Make Mexico pay, stop China's unfair currency manipulation, don't go to war, give everyone better, cheaper health insurance, open the coal mines and give everyone great paying jobs again and on and on and on.

Gullible people voted for him because he was going to make them rich like he is. The same people who signed up for Trump U. Pie in the sky. They would have seen getting Russia to help as a smart move by Trump. Just like not paying taxes.

Nitram

(22,671 posts)
57. It is clear to me that the FBI and intelligence services would have done anything to prevent
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 02:11 PM
Apr 2017

a Democrat from winning the presidency.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
58. All this just showing us that we are fucked!
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 03:41 PM
Apr 2017

When the Republicans can block investigations and commit minor infractions in the laws, it is wrong. I seriously doubt that we will see justice in these matters. Trump is destroying 50 years worth of work in a matter of weeks, his supports are empowered to maintain their ignorance of all the injustices being committed. It sickening to witness the tearing apart of America, piece by piece!

I want Justice yesterday!! WTF?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
59. I'd call my Rep and bitch
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 03:58 PM
Apr 2017

but he's currently under investigation by the House Ethics Committee for the same sorta shit you can expect from every low-life Rethug!

CrispyQ

(36,231 posts)
62. I had a glimmer of hope during the House hearings, but it's gone now.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 05:05 PM
Apr 2017

We have two child-leaders threatening to blow up the sandbox, the media is cheering them on, & Congress is in recess like everything is business as usual.

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