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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust now on Amy Goodman Show..Assange vs Nairn
this just now from Amy Goodman show.
ALLAN NAIRN: But ififif I may
JULIAN ASSANGE: was those people telling the public the truth. Those people are not responsible. People take the truth, and they absorb it, and they think about it, and they do what they want with it. And the reality is, the American people so disliked what was being offered to them by the Democratic Party that they decided that they preferred to blow it all up rather than have Hillary Clinton. They decided they would throw the Trump grenade.
ALLAN NAIRN: I agree with that. However, I would note that the Trump campaign thought that WikiLeaks was on their side.
Now, the idea, that Mr. Assange just suggested, that Trump and Clinton were equally dangerous, two different deadly diseases, I think is wildly and gruesomely mistaken. Clinton represented a criminal establishment. But Trump and the people he brought in with him make it worse, make it even more criminal. This idea that it was just a choice between the lesser of two evils, well, in politics, in life, you fight like hell to have good choices, to have better choicesin this case, Sanders was a better alternativebut once that is no longer possible, then of course you choose the lesser evil. What do you want, more evil? More killing? More pollution? More abuse of immigrants? More racism? More impunity for corporations? More aid to death squads? More spending for the military? All of that is what you get with Trump, in distinction to the badthe other bad things you would have gotten with Clinton. And the win of Clinton was notor, Im sorry, the victory of Trump was not equally as bad as it would have been if Clinton had lost. Its a catastrophe. Its an utter catastrophe. And those who are poorest, those who are already most oppressed and most vulnerable, are the ones who are suffering most as a result.
And we aint seen nothing yet. Theyre just getting started. Now with Gorsuch coming on the Supreme Court and with the possibility that the legislative filibuster in the Senate will be abolished, as well as the Supreme Court filibuster, if that happens, that will give Trump and the radical Republican right, who now control the Congress, essentially absolute power. The only thing standing in their way will be some federal judges, which means that within the system there will be no blocking power. There will be nothing to stop them. In that case, the only way to stop them will be from outside the federal system, which means in the streets or from the systems of the states and localities. Were in the midst of a right-wing revolution. I agree that a lot of this discussion about Russia and leaks is misguided, a lot of it, and its diverting attention from two main facts. One, were in the midst of a right-wing revolution that must be stopped and reversed. Two, the Democratic establishment discredited themselves, and they have to be removed and replaced by the Democratic base.
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/4/10/julian_assange_vs_allan_nairn_did
Squinch
(51,087 posts)But something like 45% of the electorate will believe that, just because articles like this present it as an unquestioned fact.
Unrec.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)It's like a bottle of backwash with three straws.
No thanks.
delisen
(6,050 posts)It is easier and seemingly safer to defeat good----until evil declares victory.
ananda
(28,912 posts)On what basis? Any evidence? Facts?
We KNOW 45 does.
synergie
(1,901 posts)jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)you guys are always complaining, rightly so, about corporate media, MS RNC and CNN, etc...So I gave you what I watched today. I think it was brilliant...you tend to glom on to one word in the entire conversation. Criminal.....Look at the whole picture. We DID lose you know. Over 1,000 seats since 2010. We are in bad bad shape.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)especially to utter with no evidence whatsoever ... just the garblings of fake news. So yes, when someone throws out the charge that an individual is part of a criminal enterprise, it's something that draws attention. In this case, well deserved negative attention.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)It's not brilliant. It's ridiculous bullshit coming from people with an obvious agenda. But for some reason it gets eaten up and vomited all over DU.
Just ewwww.
Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 11, 2017, 12:04 AM - Edit history (1)
Fuck Amy Goodman and her Russian sycophant buddy, Julian Assange. The man belongs in prison for his fucking crimes and now she's aiding and abetting the criminal!
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Assange is just another person who needs to rot in jail. Maybe he and Trump can get adjoining rooms. Sexual predators stick together and all.