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WTF!!! (Original Post) Doreen Apr 2017 OP
We need to really consider a point where this body is no longer in line with Article 1 ck4829 Apr 2017 #1
they are allowed that's why voting is so important Ohioblue22 Apr 2017 #2
Harry Reid changed the rules MichMary Apr 2017 #3
By doing that we then got ourselves screwed over. Doreen Apr 2017 #5
True, true n/t MichMary Apr 2017 #6
I don't support this RW meme. TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #17
However, Cause and Effect ... PsychoBabble Apr 2017 #9
What happened to the real, old fashioned TrishaJ Apr 2017 #22
To seat judges that were desperately needed when the Repubs were synergie Apr 2017 #13
+1, this gets repeatedly forgotten !!! uponit7771 Apr 2017 #14
Bullshit rufus dog Apr 2017 #15
Reid only did Federal Judges because the R's were sitting on a hundred or so.. Not the same thing. TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #16
What is it that you think is "against the law"? WillowTree Apr 2017 #4
I just thought that changing the rules at the last minute would be against the law. Doreen Apr 2017 #7
The majority party can change Senate rules. That's not new. WillowTree Apr 2017 #10
That is just wrong. Doreen Apr 2017 #11
How is changing a rule any more wrong than creating the rule in the first place? n/t sl8 Apr 2017 #18
So GWC58 Apr 2017 #8
Disgusting, but hardly a surprise. TDale313 Apr 2017 #12
the IOKIYAR law. pansypoo53219 Apr 2017 #19
Fuck that whole fucking party! Initech Apr 2017 #20
You haven't heard of Reid and the nuclear option? jmg257 Apr 2017 #21

ck4829

(34,977 posts)
1. We need to really consider a point where this body is no longer in line with Article 1
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:38 PM
Apr 2017

of the Constitution

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
3. Harry Reid changed the rules
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:44 PM
Apr 2017

when the D's had the Senate a few years ago. Kind of gave the R's cover to do it now . . .

PsychoBabble

(837 posts)
9. However, Cause and Effect ...
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:59 PM
Apr 2017

The GOP acts like there was no CAUSE for the EFFECT of the Reid rules change.

Had they not refused to approve almost no judges in Obama admin, the Dem hand would not have been forced to try to get some of them through so that legal justice could proceed.

This was the front end of what later became the Garland fiasco ... i.e. Democrats allowed to do nothing, GOP allowed to do anything. Raw obstruction.

It did NOT happen in a vacuum ...

TrishaJ

(797 posts)
22. What happened to the real, old fashioned
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 05:23 PM
Apr 2017

filibuster?? They tinkered with this to mean so many votes. Why not hold the floor the way "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" did it?

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
13. To seat judges that were desperately needed when the Repubs were
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 03:57 PM
Apr 2017

obstructing EVERYTHING. The repubs have no cover. Do not let them forget why that was needed then and why bullying their way to force through an objectionable judge is a violation of everything.

Stop excusing this behavior, just because they have no shame and the media is their lapdog, we don't need to be bashing Democrats for using the only avenues available to them. What the GOP is doing with the help of Chuck Toad, MSNBC, CNN et al is inexcusable.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
15. Bullshit
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 04:34 PM
Apr 2017

Wait, let me correct that, FUCKING BULLSHIT!

The Republicans were blocking all judges. ALL, with the goal of leaving all positions opened. Thus they wanted no federal judges appointed by a Democrat. So, MY AND ALL OTHER DEMOCRATIC VOTES DO NOT COUNT IN THEIR WORLD.

Reid had to break the stalemate to get positions filled.

Now if Reid hadn't done this the ORANGE MOTHER FUCKER would have been appointing SC judges and ALL of the other open positions. AND, and ponder this very carefully, they still would have gone Nuclear at the first opening.

So, I am FUCKING SICK of BULLSHIT, LYING, REPUB MEMES!

THIS IS NOT REID's fault.

And there is a fucking reason Dems lose, and your post highlights it, when repubs shit on us we play the both sides BULLSHIT.

FUCK THAT. Throw the fucking piles of shit, THEY CREATED, right back at them.

TheBlackAdder

(28,073 posts)
16. Reid only did Federal Judges because the R's were sitting on a hundred or so.. Not the same thing.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 04:35 PM
Apr 2017

.


If Reid wanted to do it, Garland would have been in already.


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Doreen

(11,686 posts)
7. I just thought that changing the rules at the last minute would be against the law.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:56 PM
Apr 2017

Particularly when you know the other side has "no prayer" to be heard. I vote now that next time the Seahawks are not winning we stop mid game and change the rules. Our government really has no rules or laws that THEY have to follow. At least that's what it looks like to me.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
11. That is just wrong.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 03:10 PM
Apr 2017

Of course that is just me. It does not matter if the majority is Repukes or Democrat it is just wrong.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
8. So
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:59 PM
Apr 2017

with a puke, and I do mean PUKE, dictator, oops, I mean president has the WH they want to do away with their favorite obstruction tool? Okay! They need to pray to whatever God it is they pray we never take back the Senate!!! What next!?! Impeach a liberal justice? At this point it wouldn't surprise me! I think we're going to find out what it was like living during Gilded age, from the poor side.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
12. Disgusting, but hardly a surprise.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 03:38 PM
Apr 2017

These fuckers will rig the game any way they can- and frankly they never pay any consequences for it. And if it's a clean fight they lose every time.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
21. You haven't heard of Reid and the nuclear option?
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 05:20 PM
Apr 2017
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/senate-poised-to-limit-filibusters-in-party-line-vote-that-would-alter-centuries-of-precedent/2013/11/21/d065cfe8-52b6-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html

Senate Democrats took the dramatic step Thursday of eliminating filibusters for most nominations by presidents, a power play they said was necessary to fix a broken system but one that Republicans said will only rupture it further.

Democrats used a rare parliamentary move to change the rules so that federal judicial nominees and executive-office appointments can advance to confirmation votes by a simple majority of senators, rather than the 60-vote supermajority that has been the standard for nearly four decades.
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