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OMFG! Trump's tweeting about Hillary and debate questions (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2017 OP
He needs to get a life. nt leftyladyfrommo Apr 2017 #1
lol.. laziest blotus in the history of the Universe.. laziest Cha Apr 2017 #15
everyone needs to tweet back with # article 25 samnsara Apr 2017 #2
Everything will be fine. TheBlackAdder Apr 2017 #39
Trump is nothing but a spoiked school-yard bully riversedge Apr 2017 #53
The jaws just dropped on Morning Joe! Holy shit, they are terrified. PearliePoo2 Apr 2017 #3
Gosh, if only someone had told them before the election that Trump was temperamentally unfit. tanyev Apr 2017 #5
You could tatoo the message backwards on their foreheads and they would still miss it. BSdetect Apr 2017 #6
LOLOLOLOL pangaia Apr 2017 #12
Fuck Mika in particular Cosmocat Apr 2017 #37
Exactly so. Fuck them. Paladin Apr 2017 #40
+1 LittleGirl Apr 2017 #47
Didn'T You Know Me. Apr 2017 #52
AM Joe and Mika think we are stupid, gullible and easily manipulated. yallerdawg Apr 2017 #58
Stated in a more neutral way, the media as a whole has not been neutral for years karynnj Apr 2017 #61
Thank you for this thoughtful and informative post. yardwork Apr 2017 #71
Well said! yardwork Apr 2017 #70
My Tweet at them... stevenleser Apr 2017 #48
Everyone knows that Donald Trump's only friend TexasTowelie Apr 2017 #4
You have to read the responses to his tweet--he's getting bigly mocked mnhtnbb Apr 2017 #7
Has Trump ever apologized for anything in his entire life? milestogo Apr 2017 #10
Thanks! Cha Apr 2017 #14
Real reporting would cover the responses underpants Apr 2017 #28
What does he mean that she got the answers? uppityperson Apr 2017 #63
It means he's a dumbfu*k. mnhtnbb Apr 2017 #64
Well, yeah. I guess he confused questions with answers. uppityperson Apr 2017 #66
Donna Brazille gave her some debate questions ahead of time LeftInTX Apr 2017 #72
But trump said she got the answers, which makes him even weirder uppityperson Apr 2017 #74
For tRump, winning is not enough, esp. to distract from #TrumpRussia, & since he's Minority Pres. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #8
Why is he not using the POTUS Twitter acct? Eom. N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2017 #9
Pure desparate distraction BSdetect Apr 2017 #11
bingo! ginnyinWI Apr 2017 #32
The word 'pathetic' describes this latest attempt by him. Enoki33 Apr 2017 #46
lOL@Do they have twitter in prison.. asking for a friend Cha Apr 2017 #13
lol.. Can you get JustForMen in prison? #Askingforafriend JHan Apr 2017 #67
LOL Cha Apr 2017 #75
He's revisiting when it actually *worked*. The jig is upnow though. nt LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #16
Even the point he thinks he is making makes no sense. thesquanderer Apr 2017 #17
Can't be said enough; this was a one-off for a town hall with Sanders BeyondGeography Apr 2017 #27
And obviously, truth is a non-issue for Trump anyway. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2017 #36
He's looking for the one thing neither money nor the Oval Office will give him DFW Apr 2017 #18
That and respect... he will get neither! Moostache Apr 2017 #19
Oh, he gets respect all right. GWC58 Apr 2017 #35
I agree 100 %! tRump is in the midst of a horrible experience that he is powerless to correct. Grammy23 Apr 2017 #26
InSANNITY... coco22 Apr 2017 #20
The Orange Anus strikes again, pooing all over himself as usual, need a firehose to clean him up. Augiedog Apr 2017 #21
You know the phrase "shut the fuck up, Donnie" has never been more relevant. Initech Apr 2017 #22
"the answers" - like it was a multiple choice test or something jberryhill Apr 2017 #23
NOBODY. CARES. DONALD. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #24
The dementia is growing stronger in this one. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #25
petty little man. nt Javaman Apr 2017 #29
it's always about HIM. ginnyinWI Apr 2017 #34
maybe another reason why he is on his third wife bdamomma Apr 2017 #38
I'm sure he would have no wife if it weren't for his money. ginnyinWI Apr 2017 #44
AND it was from a foreign country - Brazil underpants Apr 2017 #30
Glad he's taking this president thing cilla4progress Apr 2017 #31
Running out of ammo ,imbecile ? nocalflea Apr 2017 #33
She never was given the "answers" to questions. She was given the question topics. nikibatts Apr 2017 #41
She was told there would be a question about lead contamination tammywammy Apr 2017 #54
Yeah, this "scandal" is so unbelievably trite when you think about it on a practical level Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #56
I mean seriously tammywammy Apr 2017 #57
Yep. What difference does it make!? Glimmer of Hope Apr 2017 #55
Pretty sure at some point his coal miners will ask "Where's my job dickhead?" titaniumsalute Apr 2017 #42
An unhappy pathetic man vlyons Apr 2017 #43
Old business, move on. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #45
Time for another rally?? nancy1942 Apr 2017 #49
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #50
TRUMP: Twitter Ranting Underscores Moronic Presidency DinahMoeHum Apr 2017 #51
And here I thought it was April 3rd today Rural_Progressive Apr 2017 #59
The guy is a damn fool!!! And FFS, he has the nuclear codes. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #60
WTF? She got the ANSWERS? Not the questions but the answers? uppityperson Apr 2017 #62
lol he's such a dumbass JHan Apr 2017 #65
he needs to make like Elsa BuddyCa Apr 2017 #68
Let'im keep on - he's at WHAT PERCENT? UTUSN Apr 2017 #69
Why does he care about what happened in the Democratic primary? Tatiana Apr 2017 #73
"Megyn Kelly writes that TRUMP WAS TIPPED OFF ABOUT DEBATE QUESTION..." VOX Apr 2017 #76
I can actually hear Trump getting dumber. Charles Bukowski Apr 2017 #77

samnsara

(17,667 posts)
2. everyone needs to tweet back with # article 25
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 07:50 AM
Apr 2017

let him know what you think of his antics. FFS N Korea has the west coast in their sites and hes fingering himself!!!

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
3. The jaws just dropped on Morning Joe! Holy shit, they are terrified.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 07:51 AM
Apr 2017

Scar told Mika, "OK, you can say it now". Mika said, "It's time for the 25th amendment. Seriously...NOW."




BSdetect

(8,999 posts)
6. You could tatoo the message backwards on their foreheads and they would still miss it.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 08:21 AM
Apr 2017

Last edited Mon Apr 3, 2017, 10:45 AM - Edit history (1)

Cosmocat

(14,590 posts)
37. Fuck Mika in particular
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:49 AM
Apr 2017

Scar is a POS intern head bashing partisan.

You expect him to do his petulant swooning of the GOP.

Mika was truly horrible, with her phony, barely audible I am voting Hillary stance completely lost in her daily dismissive and derisive scolding of her.

They normalized 45 while normalizing the hate framing of Hillary.

The blood is on their hands like 90% of the beltway elitist media.

Fuck them.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
58. AM Joe and Mika think we are stupid, gullible and easily manipulated.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 10:49 AM
Apr 2017

Their opinions made them unwatchable.

Spouting a new corporate line contrary to what they said for a year and a half - for Rachel-ratings - doesn't change the fact that they are still unwatchable.

karynnj

(59,511 posts)
61. Stated in a more neutral way, the media as a whole has not been neutral for years
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 12:06 PM
Apr 2017

The only part of the media that has made a real attempt to be fair and unbiased is the print media.
In the past, this meant speaking both of the positives and negatives for both Obama and Trump. While all stories are shaped by the values and biases of the writer, the intent of most of that media was an attempt to be honest and fair. While it is true that the Wall Street Journal and Chicago Tribune lean right, their news pages are fact based.

In 2016, they had the challenge of Trump being far out of the norm and really NOT having many, if any, positives. The mainstream PRINT media did a laudable job with both the NYT and the WP (and surprisingly the New Yorker) jumping out of their complacency and writing very serious detailed exposes on Trump. This includes the NYT covering in detail his seedy youth where his family sent him to military school, his early work for his father violating the law to deny blacks apartments and then, when forced to, approving blacks for a few buildings that slumlord Trump allowed to deteriorate, and his tax return for a year where he took a gigantic loss. The WP had extensive coverage of his casinos going bankrupt, his Miss Universe problems etc. Manafort's links to Russian allied Ukrainians was also well documented.

I suspect that if we could look at people who obtained most of their information from the newspapers, we would find that Trump not just less well than HRC, but that he did less well than the typical Republican candidate. This speculation is based on the number of prominent Republicans who said they could not vote for him. TV, radio, and many internet sites did not even pretend to be unbiased.

An additional problem for TV is their concern with the bottom line. In all years since at least 2000, TV cable news and network news had become a "profit center" rather than the traditional cost justified by the prestige brought to the networks. Where newspapers still held to journalistic goals, TV news has become all about ratings. The evening shows - whether on the left (MSNBC) or the right(FOX) - were speaking mostly to their own "base". Trump, the brightly colored clown from reality TV, was given huge blocks of completely unfiltered time to spread his message on every cable station. We watched it and while, many of us complained about the amount of time he got for free, we thought he was so over the top he was destroying any credibility he had.

Let me explain the clown comment - as it was not just name calling. Only after seeing this snarky GQ makeover( http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-presidential-makeover ) after the election did I realize that Trump's look was probably strategic. After the made over Trump looks sort of like the bland Kasich; the badly dressed, gaudy Trump stands out. With the orange face, weird hair, over-sized suit and huge bright red tie he shares something with clowns. A friend of mine, whose grandmother was an early clown with Ringling Brothers explained in a talk that every clown had his or her own "face". It was as if was trademarked. No other clown would copy it and they themselves laboriously recreated their clown persona daily. If all of us were asked to close our eyes and picture Trump, I would bet the image we bring to mind is nearly identical - and it looks like no one we have e=seen in real life.

In Trump's case, he stayed close enough to how a candidate should look, while looking different enough to stand out vs the 16 other Republicans. I suspect that Trump's badly fitting suits, his about 4th grade language, and his simplistic sloganing of messages many already had been sold by the right wing echo chamber, he completely connected with many people who felt alienated from the elite, who they thought looked down on them. This in spite of having grown up richer than any Democratic candidate possibly back to JFK or FDR! (Hillary Clinton certainly was not given a million dollar stake upon graduating from college - later upped to $14 million when that was not enough. Neither were Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Dukakis, Mondale, Carter .... ) Yet his supporters perceived him as not of the elite - and his lack of morals and manners likely made that true to some degree. They saw our rejection of Trump as similar to our (supposed) "rejection" of them actually reinforcing their bond with him.

A TV media was concerned with ratings and being entertaining - leading to the outrageous Trump getting endless hours of free coverage. They even covered a Melania speech - essentially a redo of her plagiarized convention speech - live in full on MSNBC in the last month. The problem with most of the TV media is that they LET Trump, already known as a reality tv star, where editing will make a person look better (or worse) than they are - and it was HIS show, have hours to define himself. Even if the rest of the coverage was more realistic and balanced, those hours of self definition were a HUGE finger on the scale.

While Hillary Clinton came into both 2008 and 2016 as likely one of the most known political nominees ever because of her years as first lady, a prominent Senator from day 1 (rare in a body that rewards seniority), and a Secretary of State, you could argue that TV with its seemingly endless coverage of the Trumps defining themselves was paired with balanced TV coverage of HRC. Maybe because HRC was so well known, most of the coverage on her revolved around "news", not biography. There were some biography coverage especially before the convention. The lack of balance on TV could be said to be that Trump, even as he ran for President, was treated as a celebrity and an entertainer, where Clinton was treated pretty much as any previous nominee.

Radio was worse as radio has been progressively more right wing dominated since at least 1996. Other than NPR, which is balanced for the most part (but moving right), almost all of the talk show are right wing. A few years ago, my husband and I drove from Vermont to Florida. Once we were south of DC, the stations became increasingly right wing. We listened in both fascination and horror. Even in VT, we have stations carrying Rush Limbaugh and the other name right wingers and the loathsome, Boston based Howie Carr, who my MA friends had long mentioned. One thing that became obvious is that they RW stations (and FOX) had coordinating messages. The charges (then against Obama) were nearly identical, but put into the style and voice of each of these wing nuts. This allows some to feel that hearing the same thing on multiple sources validates it. The problem is that they are in an echo chamber and the sources are not independent.

Had the above covered all the sources of information, it would still have been daunting to get a fair comparison to most of the country. But, that ignores the right wing internet based sources. I have long been surprised at how many non prime sourced articles appear if I google the name of a Democrat. There were times when list would place something like the daily caller or Breitbart ahead of the NYT, the Washington Post, or (on foreign policy) legitimate foreign press. I was also amazed at how often I saw these same RW sources - and worse - on Twitter when I searched any Democrat to see what the stories were. I now know that many of the tweets I saw were likely from Russian bots. Even though my extended (large) family and friends were all voting for HRC, I did see some of the garbage on Facebook - in response to posts made by others with wider circles arguing for Clinton.

I had actually been naive enough to have thought in 2008 and 2012, that these social media tools were our answer to countering the Republican domination of talk radio. Instead last year, it might be that with their willingness to make things completely up - whether distorting the place of Obama's birth or Kerry's heroic service or concocting a strange pizzagate CT - that those tools were more effective spreading lies, than in correcting them.

mnhtnbb

(31,419 posts)
7. You have to read the responses to his tweet--he's getting bigly mocked
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 08:21 AM
Apr 2017

for whether he ever apologized for all kinds of $hit he's dished out...with birtherism right at the top.





You don't have to be on twitter to read the responses. Just click on the tweet.

LeftInTX

(25,813 posts)
72. Donna Brazille gave her some debate questions ahead of time
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 08:57 PM
Apr 2017

However, it was during the primary.
It has nothing to do with Dump

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
74. But trump said she got the answers, which makes him even weirder
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 11:11 PM
Apr 2017

"receiving the answers to the debate".

I received the answers too, both on tv and later written transcript.

thesquanderer

(12,001 posts)
17. Even the point he thinks he is making makes no sense.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 08:46 AM
Apr 2017

Even if you basically agree with Trump, (a) she received the questions in advance, not the "answers," and (b) the person who should apologize is the person who provided those questions unsolicited, not the person who received them, and (c) that person did apologize.

Says Donna Brazile:

“But sending those emails was a mistake I will forever regret.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donna-brazile-finally-admits-giving-debate-questions-clinton-article-1.3002221

and p.s. the person who was arguably wronged wasn't even Trump, it was Sanders. As a court might put it, Trump isn't even the person with standing to ask for such an apology.

BeyondGeography

(39,395 posts)
27. Can't be said enough; this was a one-off for a town hall with Sanders
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:27 AM
Apr 2017

Never happened in the Trump debates. By now, he and all of his followers are convinced Hillary had the questions for all of the debates. Not that any thinking adult cares anymore.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
35. Oh, he gets respect all right.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:44 AM
Apr 2017

But it's from the WORST OF THE WORST animals (I refuse to call those "things" people)!!

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
26. I agree 100 %! tRump is in the midst of a horrible experience that he is powerless to correct.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:22 AM
Apr 2017

He thinks (mistakenly) that he can keep rehashing the election to keep on proving that he is worthy of the job. He is neither worthy nor fit for the job but the mental illness that he has apparently had for most of his life drives him to seek love and acceptance. And therein lies the problem. tRump is a sick man, mentally off and incapable of normal human interactions and responses. When I find myself feeling the most anger toward him, I try to remind myself of this fact.

Would we be feeling this angry if he had the usual human physical diseases? I doubt it. But mental illnesses often affect a person's behavior so it is easy to be angry toward that person. I say our anger is misdirected. The people with the power to stop this man apparently did nothing to protect the rest of us from his disordered, seriously flawed thinking. Beginning with his family and later the political powers that be failed to dissuade him from running for office. Now it's the Vice President and Congress who are being derelict in their duties to invoke the 25th amendment. It is no wonder many of the American people are frightened and angry. When the so-called "cooler heads" and the ones with the power to stop this madness do NOTHING, we have every right to feel that way. And if the madman at the top doesn't destroy everything, we should remember who tried to help us and who did nothing come next election.

bdamomma

(63,974 posts)
38. maybe another reason why he is on his third wife
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:50 AM
Apr 2017

stupid man. I am wondering what Bannon is doing behind the scenes he should not be ignored.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
44. I'm sure he would have no wife if it weren't for his money.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:59 AM
Apr 2017

The one he has now, and probably all of them, are only an accessory--something to accessorize the big ego.

underpants

(183,051 posts)
30. AND it was from a foreign country - Brazil
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:31 AM
Apr 2017

Donna Brazil


Give it a rest. Yes she gave questions to the campaign but they weren't from out of the blue - pretty standard obvious questions.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
41. She never was given the "answers" to questions. She was given the question topics.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:55 AM
Apr 2017

Hillary knew and knows more about the subjects discussed than anyone who passed on the question topics. 45 is dumber than shit!

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
54. She was told there would be a question about lead contamination
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 10:31 AM
Apr 2017

At the townhall held in Flint, Michigan, for goodness sakes. The entire purpose of having the townhall there was to highlight the water crisis. Everyone should have expected that question.

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
56. Yeah, this "scandal" is so unbelievably trite when you think about it on a practical level
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 10:42 AM
Apr 2017

Essentially:
Donna: Hey this is gonna be asked about in the debate
Hillary: Thanks I'll be sure to brush up on that a bit during my debate prep this evening

WOOOOOOOOW BIGGEST SCANDAL SINCE WATERGATE! PRIMARY STOLEN!

Seriously, stuff like this is so common. You'd have to be purer than a newborn fawn to be a politician and not do something of this level.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
57. I mean seriously
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 10:47 AM
Apr 2017

Without that email there's no way Hillary would have expected a questions about lead in water at a townhall held in Flint, Michigan.

It's really the stupidest "scandal".

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
43. An unhappy pathetic man
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:59 AM
Apr 2017

When I see him locked inside his own bullshit, I feel quite sorry for him. You can only lie to yourself, because everyone else eventually catches on to all your lies, games, and rackets. Sad

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Rural_Progressive

(1,107 posts)
59. And here I thought it was April 3rd today
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 10:56 AM
Apr 2017

Apparently somebody got stuck on April 1st and is sending out cute little April Fool's Day twitters

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
73. Why does he care about what happened in the Democratic primary?
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:14 PM
Apr 2017

This man is sick. And yes, it is long past time for the 25th Amendment to be put in motion.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
76. "Megyn Kelly writes that TRUMP WAS TIPPED OFF ABOUT DEBATE QUESTION..."
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 11:28 PM
Apr 2017

Add another item to the long list of "What Trump Actually Did/Does, He Accuses Others of Doing." And my apologies for citing Megyn Kelly.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/305534-megyn-kelly-trump-got-debate-question-in-advance
Megyn Kelly writes that Trump was tipped off about debate question
The Hill
BY JESSIE HELLMANN - 11/10/16

Donald Trump received a question for the first debate of the primary election in advance, Megyn Kelly wrote in her new book.

In "Settle for More," the Fox News anchor writes that Trump had angrily called Fox executives the day before the first GOP debate, saying he had heard that her first question was "a very pointed question directed at him," according to The New York Times.
Kelly would go on to ask Trump about his history of using disparaging language about women, kicking off a feud between the two.

Trump has slammed Hillary Clinton over apparently receiving debate and town hall questions in advance from DNC executive Donna Brazile.

"Why didn't Hillary Clinton announce that she was inappropriately given the debate questions - she secretly used them! Crooked Hillary,” Trump tweeted last month.

"Crooked Hillary Clinton even got the questions to a debate, and nobody says a word. Can you imagine if I got the questions?"

Kelly also suggested that someone may have tried to keep her from the debate stage.

On the day of the debate, she wrote, an overzealous driver picked her up to take her to the convention center and insisted on getting her coffee. After she drank it, she felt violently ill, she said, even keeping a trash can under the debate desk.

She never said anyone poisoned her, but did say that she shared the incident with then-Fox News CEO Roger Ailes and a lawyer.

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