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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:01 PM Mar 2017

Elon Musk wants to connect computers to your brain so we can keep up with robots

https://www.recode.net/2017/3/27/15079226/elon-musk-computers-technology-brain-ai-artificial-intelligence-neural-lace


Apparently Elon Musk isn’t busy enough. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO has started yet another company, Neuralink, which aims to make implants for the human brain that can wirelessly interface with a computer, the Wall Street Journal reported today.

The technology, according to Musk — who brought up the idea at Recode’s Code Conference last year — is a “digital layer” located above the cortex, built into the brain. Musk calls the technology, which would intertwine computers and the human brain, “neural lace.”

Neural lace could help humans keep apace with rapidly accelerating advancements in artificial intelligence, which Musk said will cause humanity to “be left behind by a lot.” With the help of brain implants that are directly linked to computers, humans may be able to improve their brain function, or even one day download their thoughts or upload the thinking of others.

In the more near term, neural lace technology could be used to treat brain diseases like epilepsy or Parkinson’s.

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Elon Musk wants to connect computers to your brain so we can keep up with robots (Original Post) Bill USA Mar 2017 OP
But I don't want Russians hacking into my brain!! True Dough Mar 2017 #1
I'm sorry, but he creeps me out. LisaM Mar 2017 #2
I'd work for him in a second Loki Liesmith Mar 2017 #3
what's amatter, don't want to be a Borg??? Mhoo-hoo-ha-ha-ha! Bill USA Mar 2017 #7
LOL, nope! LisaM Mar 2017 #9
Hyper link is good for commuting from big city to big city Blue_true Mar 2017 #19
I don't even like going on the Seattle Link Light Rail LisaM Mar 2017 #21
I have flown into the Pacific Northwest. Blue_true Mar 2017 #23
I prefer the bus. LisaM Mar 2017 #24
There's something 'not quite right' about him IMO Calculating Mar 2017 #12
I guess he was bullied as a kid. LisaM Mar 2017 #14
You are on to something. Blue_true Mar 2017 #18
I like Tesla cars, solar PV, hyperloop and all that but this is just sick! Ezior Mar 2017 #4
Or butts, in the case of Trump supporters .... OnDoutside Mar 2017 #5
looks like he's read some William Gibson Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #6
Not only no, but HELL NO! Calculating Mar 2017 #8
maybe we're on schedule to hit the GITS future by 2030 after all 0rganism Mar 2017 #10
Moving a mouse is the only exercise some people get! Buns_of_Fire Mar 2017 #11
Oh good...now my ISP can PRE-record by browsing data, Volaris Mar 2017 #13
Cool. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #15
USB port on your neck? MineralMan Mar 2017 #16
this? post number 6? Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #17
Yes, exactly! MineralMan Mar 2017 #20
much more since then. my favorite is Virtual Light. Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #22
Didn't Ben Carson kskiska Mar 2017 #25
The next step would be this... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #26
So they can upload advertising directly to our brains? Fuck that! Initech Mar 2017 #27
Crap, I don't even want a smart phone. hunter Mar 2017 #28

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
2. I'm sorry, but he creeps me out.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:05 PM
Mar 2017

I hate most of his ideas. He's like the least organic person in the whole world.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
9. LOL, nope!
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:07 PM
Mar 2017

And I don't want to ride around in a driverless car or go coast to coast in a big tube without seeing any scenery and I don't think we should warm up Mars for settlement, either!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Hyper link is good for commuting from big city to big city
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:35 PM
Mar 2017

in highly populated corridors like NYC to Washington DC, but even then a lot of beautiful scenery and history is missed. I can't see myself going from San Francisco to LA in something other that a surface based train, a car or an airplane with windows. A train running in a high tech tube, NO.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
21. I don't even like going on the Seattle Link Light Rail
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:41 PM
Mar 2017

It's eerie, you get absolutely no sense of where you are.

This is a beautiful country, and I don't understand not slowing down to enjoy it. A few months ago I was flying from Michigan to Washington on a fall afternoon, and you can imagine the scenery - the Great Lakes! The Mississippi River! The Rocky Mountains! The Cascades!

And every flipping person by a window had the shade pulled down and was on a device.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. I have flown into the Pacific Northwest.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:57 PM
Mar 2017

Anyone who has never been there and are on a plane flying in MUST sit at a window and put the devices away. The scenery is stunning.

BUT. I have driven in and around Seattle. On a business day, I would take the train, no scenery and all. If not working, I would be on a bicycle or car heading southeast toward Mount Ranier.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
24. I prefer the bus.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:59 PM
Mar 2017

The link light rail out to the airport is okay scenery-wise (even though it takes a very circuitous route and drops me off a half mile from my gate!) But the newest extension that goes to the University of Washington is just dark and tube-y.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
12. There's something 'not quite right' about him IMO
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:10 PM
Mar 2017

I can appreciate a healthy level of ambition, but he seems like the kind of guy who's one step away from becoming a mad scientist or authoritarian leader who takes control of the world for 'our own good'. He talks about how one day we'll necessarily need to give up manually driven cars to embrace a future of self-driving cars, and now this neural lace stuff. It's too much. It's like he wants to fundamentally change our society and what it means to be an independent human being.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. You are on to something.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:26 PM
Mar 2017

The problem with Artificial Intelligence once it becomes hyper advanced isn't the AI but evil humans who create the AI. Advanced AI and advanced mechanical assemblies will make intelligent machines capable of suppressing or killing 90-95% of humans, the other 5% of humans will likely be involved in making the mechanical assemblies and AI, a small percentage of those humans are likely to fall into the evil psychopath category, people that think ruling over all humans is a good thing.

Ezior

(505 posts)
4. I like Tesla cars, solar PV, hyperloop and all that but this is just sick!
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:56 PM
Mar 2017

Don't do it.

What could possibly go wrong? Also, I hate how Elon Musk is now a mascot for Trump.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
6. looks like he's read some William Gibson
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:02 PM
Mar 2017




https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/28/william-gibson-neuromancer-cyberpunk-books

Prescience can be tedious for science-fiction writers. Being proven right about a piece of technology or a trend distracts from the main aim of the work: to show us how we live now. William Gibson knows this as well as anyone. Since the late 70s, the American-born novelist has been pulling at the loose threads of our culture to imagine what will come out. He has been right about a great deal, but mainly about the shape of the internet and how it filters down to the lowest strata of society.

In Neuromancer, published 30 years ago this month, Gibson popularised the idea of cyberspace: a "consensual hallucination" created by millions of connected computers. This network can be "jacked" into, while in the real world characters flit from Tokyo to the Sprawl, an urban agglomeration running down the east coast of the US. Gritty urban clinics carry out horrendous sounding plastic surgery. A junkie-hacker, Case, is coaxed into hacking the system of a major corporation. What once seemed impossibly futuristic is now eerily familiar.

"Neuromancer," says novelist and blogger Cory Doctorow, "remains a vividly imagined allegory for the world of the 1980s, when the first seeds of massive, globalised wealth-disparity were planted, and when the inchoate rumblings of technological rebellion were first felt. A generation later, we're living in a future that is both nothing like the Gibson future and instantly recognisable as its less stylish, less romantic cousin. Instead of zaibatsus [large conglomerates] run by faceless salarymen, we have doctrinaire thrusting young neocons and neoliberals who want to treat everything from schools to hospitals as businesses."


On its release, Neuromancer won the "big three" for science fiction: the Nebula, Philip K Dick and Hugo awards. It sold more than 6m copies and launched an entire aesthetic: cyberpunk. In predicting this future, Gibson can be said to have helped shape our conception of the internet. Other novelists are held in higher esteem by literary critics, but few can claim to have had such a wide-ranging influence. The Wachowskis made The Matrix by mashing Gibson's vision together with that of French philosopher Jean Baudrillard. Stieg Larsson's Lisbeth Salander is a facsimile of Molly Millions, the femme fatale in Neuromancer. Every social network, online game or hacking scandal takes us a step closer to the universe Gibson imagined in 1984.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
8. Not only no, but HELL NO!
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:06 PM
Mar 2017

I love what TSLA is doing with green energy, EV's, battery tech, etc. I love what SpaceX is doing to help us get back to space exploration. Putting electronics into people's brains to 'enhance' them is taking things too damn far though. If we ever get to the point in our society where people are 'upgrading' their brains with electronics I'll want off this world.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,157 posts)
11. Moving a mouse is the only exercise some people get!
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:09 PM
Mar 2017

Before you know it, our arms and legs would become vestigial organs, all body mass would start settling towards the butt, and we'd all look like those roly-poly dolls -- you know, like Rump.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
13. Oh good...now my ISP can PRE-record by browsing data,
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:16 PM
Mar 2017

and sell it so I can know what to buy for myself tomorrow.
I'm so relieved I hate having to think about...Things.

(On Edit) maybe today was just the wrong day for the announcement..

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. much more since then. my favorite is Virtual Light.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:48 PM
Mar 2017

great interview with him in the Paris Review, btw.

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
26. The next step would be this...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:12 PM
Mar 2017


Once you merge a human mind with an AI the next step would be authoritarian control and assimilation....sorry, I don't need my mind to live forever and I don't want to become a Cyberman.
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