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PELOSI smacks Donald" "Rookie's error, Donald Trump Clearly you're not ready." (Original Post) kpete Mar 2017 OP
This brings me so much pleasure tazkcmo Mar 2017 #1
That was a thing of beauty Stinky The Clown Mar 2017 #2
It's not so much that Trump's an amateur (he is) C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #3
Would prefer focus on substantive issues Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #4
Perceived by whom? nt canetoad Mar 2017 #5
Republicans and maybe Independents Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #7
What I want to see is a Dem "ACA fix" bill that adds the Public Option. pat_k Mar 2017 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #6

C_U_L8R

(44,987 posts)
3. It's not so much that Trump's an amateur (he is)
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:30 PM
Mar 2017

Trump's just incompetent.
A feckless, featherbrained ignoramus.
A nitwit.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
4. Would prefer focus on substantive issues
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:41 PM
Mar 2017

This is perceived as a condescending ad homonym challenge by an elitist liberal. What reaction is expected but a doubling down of effort to prove her wrong? Its not a competition between rookie and non-rookie.

Better to focus on the numerous substantive failings of the health care bill and its seriously grave impact.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
8. What I want to see is a Dem "ACA fix" bill that adds the Public Option.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:03 PM
Mar 2017

Right now we are engaged in a losing "ACA sucks" v. No it doesn't" argument. We need to move the fight to "our turf." Dems need to introduce a competing ACA "fix" that adds the public option. And they need to launch a coordinated effort to "sell" it to the public. They should be out their calling on people to contact Reps to tell them the Dem bill is what they REALLY want. And if/when it is blocked this session, call on people to elect Dems in 2018 so we CAN get it done.

Repubs claim "their" bill will reduce premiums. It's a lie, but people will be/are being duped by it. Without a competing bill, all we can say is "their bill won't lower premiums." And that's a classic "Don't think of an elephant" loser (See Lakoff). With a competing bill that has the public option -- which actually WILL cut costs through polling and negotiation -- we've got something positive to advocate. We need to do more than fight for the status quo if we want to move our health care system in the right direction (or stop reversal).

ACA is in fact not great. It needs fixing. The right kind of fixing. Let's accept the reality that the Republican noise machine has successfully demonized ACA. We are not going to be able to undo that damage. The only way to really protect what we've got is to change the game.

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