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Hekate

(90,643 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:02 PM Feb 2017

ICE took a sick woman from the hospital: it's taken me days to find words...

I have to say this.

When the fucking Gestapo came for my father in law he was in the hospital in Belgium.

The doctors and nurses turned the thugs away by saying the man would die if they took him then. Then when he was a bit better the doctors and nurses gave him false papers and he disappeared into the Underground, where he fought and survived the war.

My people have been in America since about 1630. As I write this, I have tears of utter shame in my eyes for my country.

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ICE took a sick woman from the hospital: it's taken me days to find words... (Original Post) Hekate Feb 2017 OP
This happened right up the road Horse with no Name Feb 2017 #1
I know... there really are no words! What happened was too inhuman for them! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #2
ICE also detained and rudely questioned the former prime minister of Norway tblue37 Feb 2017 #3
Somebody needs de-ICEd. dchill Feb 2017 #7
It's just one outrage after another with these creeps--and nobody seems to care catbyte Feb 2017 #4
Yes unfortunately bdamomma Feb 2017 #11
KNR Lucinda Feb 2017 #5
Out of curiosity, I looked up the qualifications to be an ICE agent ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #6
Somewhere between ordinary cop and private prison guard or mall cop. hunter Feb 2017 #8
life under the BLOTUS MFM008 Feb 2017 #9
When they came for this woman in Fort Worth, Jakes Progress Feb 2017 #10
Snopes says this is not quite true leftofcool Feb 2017 #12

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
1. This happened right up the road
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:07 PM
Feb 2017

And a brain tumour that needs surgery now won't wait for the politics to be sorted out.
This doesn't appear to be my country anymore.

tblue37

(65,319 posts)
3. ICE also detained and rudely questioned the former prime minister of Norway
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:22 PM
Feb 2017

for an hour when he flew into New York, and a famous Australian author of children's books (emphasis added):

Author Mem Fox gets U.S. apology after being detained on way to Milwaukee

The Australian author of "Ten Little Fingers and Ten Little Toes" and other children's books has received an apology from U.S. officials after being wrongfully detained at a Los Angeles airport this month on her way to Milwaukee, ABC News reported Friday.

Mem Fox, who was questioned by Customs and Border Protection officers for two hours, said the agents appeared to have been given "turbocharged power" by an executive order signed by President Donald Trump to "humiliate and insult" a room full of people they detained to check visas, the network reported.


Ms. Fox said she collapsed in tears afterward because the questioning was so insulting and aggressive.

And then, of course, there was the ex-wife of Muhammed Ali and Muhammed Ali, Jr., detained and rudely questioned about their religion because they have Muslim names.

Apparently ICE is full of nasty authoritarians who are very excited to be given what amounts to a carte blanche.

dchill

(38,471 posts)
7. Somebody needs de-ICEd.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:44 PM
Feb 2017

Nasty authoritarians are NOT true Americans. They're the ones who should be rudely questioned.

catbyte

(34,372 posts)
4. It's just one outrage after another with these creeps--and nobody seems to care
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:29 PM
Feb 2017

It's only been 6 weeks--we can't have reached outrage burnout yet--that's how dictators really get their foot in the door when apathy sets in. I keep wondering of she was one of those "really bad guys" what the Orange Shithead was boasting about. Words are so very inadequate to describe the depth of loathing and downright hatred I have for that Orange Horror and the vile toadies he surrounds himself with.

Thank you for sharing the story of your father-in-law. I was watching a WWII documentary a few weeks ago about what life was like inside the Reich. The parallels are alarming. An ordinary Berlin housewife was interviewed, and she shared a story of how a Jewish acquaintance of theirs had asked for their help hiding him and his wife. She was talked out of giving them long term shelter, but she allowed them to stay for 2 days. At the end of the 2 days, she went to where they had been hiding--I can't remember if it was attic or basement. Anyway, all of the bed linens were neatly folded and they were gone. A few weeks later she heard that they had been caught at a train station and had been sent to Auschwitz. She said that the incident had filled her with overwhelming shame because she realized that "Adolf Hitler had turned me into a murderer." She was interviewed in the early 1970's, and the pain and shame was still deeply etched on her face 30 years later. Is this what we're becoming?

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
11. Yes unfortunately
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 01:03 AM
Feb 2017

That is why people need to continue to not be silenced. We need to keep focused and not do this

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
6. Out of curiosity, I looked up the qualifications to be an ICE agent
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:40 PM
Feb 2017
http://www.criminaljusticedegreeschools.com/criminal-justice-careers/ice-agent/

Entry-level ICE agents must possess a bachelor’s degree. A master’s degree or at least one year of graduate study is also required. However, US veterans and those with significant experience in law enforcement or the military may have the education requirement waived.

ICE agents must be United States citizens who are at least 21 years of age and under 37 years of age. The maximum age limit may be waived for US veterans and applicants who have served in certain federal law enforcement positions. ICE agent candidates cannot have been convicted of any felony, nor can they have any conviction for a misdemeanor relating to domestic violence. Applicants who have such criminal records will automatically be denied.


I see a problem here.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
8. Somewhere between ordinary cop and private prison guard or mall cop.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:58 PM
Feb 2017

These people have made my community less safe.

Our local police have worked hard to gain the trust of the local community. Then these ICE "police" costumed clowns come in and blow it all away.

If my neighbors are afraid to talk to the police then I SUFFER. My neighborhood becomes MORE dangerous.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
10. When they came for this woman in Fort Worth,
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 12:53 AM
Feb 2017

the doctors said "Take her. We don't want to get in the way."

The stories I have read seemed to indicate that they were glad to not deal with her.

I guess they are trump fans.

(I will be glad to apologize if I can find anything that says they tried to stop the thugs, but I haven't see it, only that they didn't want to treat her any more.)

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
12. Snopes says this is not quite true
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 01:05 AM
Feb 2017

She is in detention but only after her doctor determined she was in stable condition. She is also getting medical treatment while in detention and is scheduled for further surgery if and when it is needed.

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