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CanonRay

(14,084 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:29 AM Feb 2017

My mother used to call it manners

I'm getting old (66 this year), but we didn't have political correctness when I was growing up. It was called basic manners. You didn't say mean things about people's skin color. You didn't say bad things about religion. You didn't know or want to know what they did in the privacy of their homes. It was simply none of your business, so keep your mouth shut. Now, in an over-reaction to what they deem "political correctness" Trump's followers are emboldened to say any damn thing that pops into their decaying heads. My mom would say they don't have any manners. And she'd be right.

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My mother used to call it manners (Original Post) CanonRay Feb 2017 OP
Lack of common decency--Deplorable randr Feb 2017 #1
I agree completely and say this all the time underpants Feb 2017 #2
And I add "respect and courtesy" in case people think "manners" is too high-faluting SharonAnn Feb 2017 #9
And the same morons make a huge deal out of who says 'Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Holidays ' luvMIdog Feb 2017 #3
Exactly. deurbano Feb 2017 #14
My grandmother's wisdom thbobby Feb 2017 #4
Another saying..."Mind your own knitting" Grammy23 Feb 2017 #17
Very good point. I'm going to say this when the PC thing comes up. yardwork Feb 2017 #5
Yeah, "politically correct" is still correct n/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #26
Kindness is the most important value. Nt lostnfound Feb 2017 #6
I think it was Vonnegut who wrote Buckeyeblue Feb 2017 #7
My 96 year old mother dinger130 Feb 2017 #8
Same output too underpants Feb 2017 #11
Trump himself has no filter at all. Ligyron Feb 2017 #10
Yes, basic manners and MYOB goes a long way toward making life smoother for all. wildeyed Feb 2017 #12
Remember when public figures used to try to They_Live Feb 2017 #13
Vaguely. Maynar Feb 2017 #15
Exactly! liberalmuse Feb 2017 #16
Exactly. gvstn Feb 2017 #18
I absolutely agree, but the most bizarre aspect of this IndianaDave Feb 2017 #19
+1 narnian60 Feb 2017 #28
Thank you. Those have long been my thoughts as well. n/t Mister Ed Feb 2017 #20
My mother's worst insult was "vulgar." Warpy Feb 2017 #21
Things are either correct or incorrect HopeAgain Feb 2017 #22
Let's not romanticize the supposed "good old days" too much, eh? Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #23
Yes, just common social courtesies - being polite and nice Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #24
I have said the same thing about "you have to say Merry Christmas and not Happy Holidays". appleannie1943 Feb 2017 #25
What's really sad is that Trump and his fans... Initech Feb 2017 #27

randr

(12,409 posts)
1. Lack of common decency--Deplorable
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:39 AM
Feb 2017

And they are proud of the title making them---just can't think of any word for it, seriously at a loss for words.

underpants

(182,626 posts)
2. I agree completely and say this all the time
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:40 AM
Feb 2017

When someone mockingly or dismissively says "oh that's just PC" I point out that it's simply manners. If someone says something is offensive to them you should take that into account. You can still say what you want in your own home or in certain settings but in front of them you now know that saying that costs you in some shape or form. They're not telling you what you can say.

luvMIdog

(2,533 posts)
3. And the same morons make a huge deal out of who says 'Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Holidays '
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:47 AM
Feb 2017

every year they have a melt down about people saying 'Happy Holidays' . What they really mean is that they miss the days when people used the N word and they want those days brought back.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
4. My grandmother's wisdom
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:47 AM
Feb 2017

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."
We can and should disagree sometimes, but civility is just part of human decency.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
17. Another saying..."Mind your own knitting"
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:18 PM
Feb 2017

Which is another way of saying, "Mind your own business." Unless you know there is abuse going on, you need to stay out of other people's lives. But somehow people think they have a right to meddle around in other people's lives, bedrooms, political choices, etc.

Discussing religion, politics or even the latest dietary fad is fraught with land mines. It seems that anger is frequently the go to emotion associated with certain topics, so we find ourselves having to avoid those topics. The notion of old fashioned debate is dead. Watching the political debates last fall demonstrated that clearly. Forget facts and ideas. Zingers that snap and designed to hurt are what it has come to. 😢

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
7. I think it was Vonnegut who wrote
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:54 AM
Feb 2017

In one of his novels, Vonnegut had the line, "Enough about love, how about some common decency..."

dinger130

(199 posts)
8. My 96 year old mother
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 10:55 AM
Feb 2017

says Trump's mouth looks like the hind end of a duck.

So much for politeness and manners around here.

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
10. Trump himself has no filter at all.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 11:04 AM
Feb 2017

Often to the embarrassment of his spin meisters. While his deplorables love it, it will one day contribute significantly to his downfall.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
12. Yes, basic manners and MYOB goes a long way toward making life smoother for all.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 11:14 AM
Feb 2017

Dunno why that is so difficult and upsetting for them.

liberalmuse

(18,671 posts)
16. Exactly!
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:08 PM
Feb 2017

Manners. Common decency. Being kind.

Filtering all the crap that we call "thoughts" and then selectively tossing out the bullshit and meanness before we express them instead of allowing our mouths to function as a second asshole is actually a good thing, ya know?

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
18. Exactly.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:27 PM
Feb 2017

When someone says something about "the" Jews, I'm like how would I know who is Jewish or care about it. That is their religion and none of my business. We were taught not to divide people into classes/groups whether by skin color, religion or politics (my mom was somewhat prejudiced against fat people and poorer than us people, so not perfect). You take what you get but manners still go a long way.

IndianaDave

(612 posts)
19. I absolutely agree, but the most bizarre aspect of this
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:44 PM
Feb 2017

is that Trump DEMANDS that everyone be extremely sensitive and nice to him, and the people who follow him are adamant that no one may say anything negative about him. On one hand, they are comfortable saying the most insulting and hostile things about others, but they are outrageously protective of Trump. I understand that multiple personalities probably do not exist, according to reputable mental health experts, but they may need to identify a new personality disorder for Trump and his supporters.

Warpy

(111,160 posts)
21. My mother's worst insult was "vulgar."
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:36 PM
Feb 2017

it's what most other people call "common." Anything from chewing gum in public to trying to talk sex, religion or politics in polite company to using pejoratives against people you didn't know was vulgar.

My mother would be appalled by right wingers today, going far beyond disagreeing with them into pronouncing them all vulgar beyond endurance. I'd agree with her, too.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
22. Things are either correct or incorrect
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:38 PM
Feb 2017

"Politically incorrect" is whst you call it when you know it's wrong

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
23. Let's not romanticize the supposed "good old days" too much, eh?
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:43 PM
Feb 2017

100 years ago, Lynchings were considered weekend entertainment.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
24. Yes, just common social courtesies - being polite and nice
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 07:02 PM
Feb 2017

Saying please and thank you, holding the door open for someone - it's like they are rebelling against the things that kindergarteners are taught. Makes me regard them as bratty kids acting out.

Time for some remedial lessons in manners!

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appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
25. I have said the same thing about "you have to say Merry Christmas and not Happy Holidays".
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 07:07 PM
Feb 2017

If you don't know what religion a person is, it is only good manners to tell them "Happy Holidays". Many religions have holidays within a months time and New Years if they don't. You cover all bases with Happy Holidays. If you know someone's religion you can say Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukkah or whatever. It doesn't have a thing to do with political correctness, it has to do with manners.

Initech

(100,040 posts)
27. What's really sad is that Trump and his fans...
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 07:52 PM
Feb 2017

Are rude, disgusting, obnoxious assholes who are completely proud of the fact that they're rude, disgusting, obnoxious assholes. They wear their white power on their sleeves and drink out of their "liberal tears" coffee mugs and wear Trump t-shirts. And they loot, destroy, pillage and leave swastika graffiti and think it's funny, while warning they need to watch out for the (non existent) "violent left". They've been treating us like complete shit since the election. I've never seen such horrible, despicable winners in my life. In professional sports, if you win, you shake the other guy's hand and move on. You don't pour salt in the wound like the Trump fans are doing. If there is a hell, I hope there's a special circle reserved just for them.

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