Rachel is becoming unbearable for me lately

[jodymarie aimee]

I can only watch Lawrence and Joy Ann....more and more turning Rachel off....she is so into her clever LONG openings...and her giggles and she has lately been referring alot to her girlfriend....for no reason....I know Joy and Lawrence truly CARE about what they are reporting to us ...I feel like Rachel is just enjoying her job.....how cool is it "these interesting times" crappola....and the way she is sucking up to Andy Lack with her best friend Greta...straddling that fence....she is losing me bigtime. She used to be so good...

[uponit7771]

1. I love the build ups, they're a nerdy side but its a nerdy show

[TrekLuver]

2. Sometimes I like the build ups and sometimes I don't.

[SticksnStones]

3. Completely disagree

Particularly last night's show.

If she bothers you, real simple: don't watch



(Sometimes I think people complain just to have something to complain about)

[jodymarie aimee]

6. I do the same thing with the MOJO folks reporting to us how crappy his show is

and continue to watch...so I get what you are saying...I just want her to be as good as she used to be, so I still tune in every nite. As a Domestic Abuse Survivor and disabled 65 year old, one thing I never do is complain just to complain. I am happy to be alive. In these times, which ARE NOT INTERESTING....I just want 100% from her every nite. They are all we have. Sorry if I was a pill....

[JI7]

9. she has been at her best reporting on the Russia connection

[SticksnStones]

10. Sorry if I was terse

It just seems like everybody is beating up on everybody around here lately.

That and I think she does a fine job. But that's me.

Peace ~

[bdamomma]

25. At least she is telling us

the truth. I think she's good too.

Peace

[cwydro]

36. I think she's fantastic too.

[longship]

28. Maybe you should consider self-deleting your OP.

It cannot do any good.

How many of our allies are we going to throw under the bus? Especially just because one does not historic narratives in ones reportage. I bet some also think Frontline is intolerable. And 60 Minutes!

[adigal]

43. Ah, more censorship. No. i agree with the OP, Rachel is too cute

By half. Just get to the point, our democracy is absolutely in danger. Stop giggling, Rachel.
Having said that, she was angry and shocked and on fire last night. That is the Rachel i admire.

[longship]

45. What good does this do here?

Censorship? Are these complaints really trying to convince people not to watch Rachel Maddow?
Well, I hope that goal fails. We've thrown enough allies under the bus.

If you do not like Rachel, turn the damned channel. Nobody is forcing you to tune into her program. There are some of us who very much enjoy her geeky presentations.

I'll stand by my post.
Useless thread.

[blue neen]

46. IMHO, you hit the nail on the head.

Rachel Maddow is a wonderful resource to find out the REAL news. Her research backs up the reporting.

If people don't want to watch, they can just use their remote. Why would anyone be offended if Rachel mentions her girlfriend or giggles?

[dionysus]

47. You're a pill and a pain, as my mom used to say... ;)

[MrPurple]

30. Me too, I like her build ups

She gives nuanced backstory to things that is usually very lacking in other places.

[SticksnStones]

34. I often feel like I'm taking a combination poli-sci / world history class when she's on

I know that, for some, the way she repeats herself is maddening but that's a teaching technique: Say it three times and most folks will commit that to memory.

Certainly I remember more of the details of her topics because of that repetition.

And, as you wrote, she dives deep into those openers.

[JI7]

4. i love her long intros . the lack of history and context is a big problem

With how media reports things today so it's good to have someone who can give more info.

She enjoys the job she does. I have no problem with that.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

5. I like her show ..

Her first segment is a little long but worth it.

[Sorceress]

7. I usually like the build ups...

But I can totally understand how one would lose patience. Sometimes, the point/payoff wasn't worth the trip. Usually, it is, though. I am still side-eying her for vouching for Greta. That woman is horrible.

[shraby]

8. I've always enjoyed her presentation of the news

and stories. The back-story helps understand the present story so much better.
One reason I always enjoy reading Leon Uris and James Michener.
The give the back-story to the people in the novels.

Without that, the present isn't as understandable as it is with the history involved.
Watergate is a good example. Without the history, the personalities, the break-in, etc. the seriousness of what went down is to some degree lost.
I hope she continues to flesh out the story she's covering.

[flying_wahini]

11. I know! I thought it was just me....

She repeats her points ad nauseum... saying the same thing over and over and over.

she can take a 3 minute idea and stretch it out 10 min.

[jodymarie aimee]

14. yes, I guess I just prefer

Lawrence and Joy Ann staring into the camera with fire in their bellies.....their eyes shouting truth to power..no cutesy games. We got no time to waste these days....

[Ilsa]

12. I don't like her enjoying these interesting times either.

That's too detached from the pain everyone else feels or is anticipating. Rising fascism isn't "interesting", it's deadly.

[jodymarie aimee]

16. ILSA you have said it the way I should have

I feel she is not personally invested in this...like her life will go on the same..la...la...la...my fear and terror are real. I may be out on the street in a few months..no home..no auto...no nothing.....I think Cheeto watches Lawrence and I love when he smacks him in the kisser...it makes me feel in a way, more powerful....history facts will get me nowhere if I am homeless.

[Ilsa]

27. I don't watch her as much as I used to. She spends too long

Building her case and reviewing history instead of projecting what will happen next if people like Ryan, Trump, etc get their way and how it affects people like you.

When I was single, I would go through mental machinations of how to live in my car, get by, etc. I would definitely try to go minimalist and convert to being as mobile as possible. Hang in there. There's lots of resisting going on. I don't think he'll get away with as much as he thinks he will.

[Dream Girl]

37. She does seem to get a kick out of reporting on all the awful stuff that's happpening

Not going to hurt her one way or the other it's just kind of "interesting". She is very,very detached and in her head about all of this, .no emotional stake or passion there.

[doc03]

13. I like her long intros, she lays out the facts of a story instead of

a 5 second sound bite. I think she is the most knowledgeable person on
MSNBC by far.

[brush]

18. Joy and Lawrence give her a run for the money.

[femmocrat]

15. I don't care for the long intros either.

I guess I have a short attention span. Sometimes I turn it on late to see if she is done with them.

When she actually gets around to investigative journalism, she is one of the best on TV.

I am down to Lawrence and Joy now. But I didn't watch cable news at all for months after the "election".

[Mika]

17. Pedantic openings - like she's teaching imbeciles. Stopped watching a long while back. eom

[Dave Starsky]

22. I've always found her tedious.

I know I'm not going to be popular saying that, but she just is. I know she has her fans, though.

She's extremely smart, but she needs to get over herself every now and then and just get to the fucking point.

[Golden Raisin]

38. Yes! She's constantly "explaining" everything

as if we were wayward 6th graders who need to have facts and stories broken down and simplified so we can grasp the full import that she obviously does. She's very bright and she knows it. But I find her communication method and presentation extremely condescending.

[theglammistress]

19. I enjoy the build up

I like the interesting way to weave stories and the fact is, she's probably the single most liberal host on the air, right next to Joy Reid. I'm thankful we have her. We don't have many to turn to anymore.

[applegrove]

20. I can't get her in canada and I could so use her fight and fine mind. Don't

take her for granted.

[bdamomma]

26. yes I agree don't take

them for granted is right.

[JenniferJuniper]

21. I avoid the show now because the openings are too much

I don't think it's my attention span either. There is just something "cutesy" about them that I have little patience for here in TrumpBizzaroWorld.

And I watched her suck up to KellyAnn Con during the campaign. Not one of her finer moments.

I love Lawrence.

[A HERETIC I AM]

23. ....

[longship]

24. I love Rachel! She gives historic context. If you don't like it, then don't watch her.

Sheesh!

[Merlot]

29. I have learned SO much about political history

from her openings. Even if I don't enjoy where the story goes, the historical context is worth it for me. She's unabashedly liberal which I also appreciate.

[mahina]

31. I think she nailed him to the wall about his repeatedly backing down when we

stand up to him.

Like what you like~ be you, sister.

[LisaM]

32. I find her buildups to be a bit circular.

I would prefer if she did a straight timeline. I like her but sometimes she strains to connect her dots, IMHO.

[Zambero]

33. I enjoy 'em

Sure, Rachel could get right to the point as most journalists might choose, although the stories are presented in a way that puts the issue being discussed into a meaningful and/or historical context, and also represent a good balance of news and entertainment. Sometimes I can predict what the punch line will be early-on, but typically it's regarding a breaking topic that most viewers would be unfamiliar with. I agree about Greta, she's flat out boring and on MSNBC has the same basic show that she ran at Faux.

[Doreen]

35. I love Rachel, I like her build ups. She does well at teaching about issues

that all of us do not completely understand. Not everybody is a history buff and those lessons help us understand better.

[kimbutgar]

39. I just can't watch those shows anymore

Since election night I decided I didn't need someone else's narratives to realize what happened.

[Gothmog]

40. I love the Rachel Maddow buildups and explanations

[cynatnite]

41. You must've not watched tonight's show. n/t

[Hamlette]

42. I like and trust Chris Hayes too

I think he is the best of the lot, been watching him since his weekend morning show years ago. He's as smart as Rachel but he doesn't have to prove it every damned night and he doesn't snark as much as LO. IMHO.

[Tatiana]

44. She's a lot harder to watch since she went full corporate.

She's an incredibly smart, but very insecure woman (in my humble opinion).

She wants to be liked so badly by the VIPs that she will often kiss the a$$es of some revolting people.

I think she is trying to walk the tightrope between keeping a job and reporting on significant news that the corporate masters would rather the masses not hear. Which is pretty much impossible to do, as we can see from Keith Olbermann's example.