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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKatie Rich of S.N.L. Is Suspended for Tweet Mocking Barron Trump
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/23/arts/television/katie-rich-snl-suspended-barron-trump-tweet.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0Not a surprise. Even she should have seen the writing on the wall after the firestorm in the media.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)AND got mostly a pass for mocking a disabled reporter as well. Cheeto also wants to make SURE other kids Barron's age don't have the magnificent health insurance Barron has.
Yep, kids Barron's age wont get the magnificent health insurance he has once Obamacare is repealed and NOT replaced with a damn thing--to HELL with them says Barron's illegitimate, p***y-grabbing, racist, child-hating Daddy.
Yep, Barron's one lucky little boy--he has magnificent health insurance.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)eom
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Isn't being taken to the woodshed for mocking the disabled and other kids like Barron who don't have ANY health care and who will DIE.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)Who his father is.
If you harp on Barron then you are no better than Trump himself.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Hekate
(90,621 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Hekate
(90,621 posts)sarisataka
(18,560 posts)it is so sad to see each day how "we" are becoming more like "them"
If the only way to succeed is through is through adopting hate, lies and abandoning principles then I would rather lose. I will sleep better having a clear conscience.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)I've seen n00bs try to lecture decade long DUers.. crazy...
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)I doubt if Barron really knows what's going on. Has nothing to do with him possibly having autism etc., but because he may be protected to the point that he really doesn't know what's going on out there in "the world," because after all he is only 10 years old.
However, if pointing out that Barron has magnificent health care/health insurance, and his daddy doesn't give a damn if other kids his son's age don't have it and may DIE as a result is WRONG, then the man will never be held accountable for anything. Don't other children's lives matter to HIM? Guess he'll get a pass on that
Someone just told me that I'm as bad as tRumputin for pointing out that Barron has great health care/health insurance which has to be FACT, meanwhile, tRumputin doesn't even CARE if kids Barron's age DIE because he's going to make SURE that kids Barron's age don't have ANY health care/health insurance. He'll be partially responsible (GOP as well) for kids dying all over this country just because they don't even have basic health care, yet I'm "picking on Barron" for pointing out factually that Barron has magnificent health care/health insurance
Mind you, I'm not mocking the child like tRumputin mocked that disabled reporter and got a pass FOR. I'm pointing out that tRumputin is being an evil, murderous hypocritical asshole because he's making DAMN sure that his son's insured and others people's kids AREN'T and will DIE as a result of that evilness on his part.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)That little Barron has magnificent health care. Stating fact is harping?
Say listen, if telling the truth about tRumputin's little boy Barron having magnificent health care is harping, then your head will explode after you start seeing cases of kids DYING all across this country who don't have the same health care Barron has because his daddy doesn't give a DAMN if other people's kids live or DIE.
Save some of what you're telling ME about not being better than tRumputin for him because he's going to be responsible for literally KILLING kids his son's age who will die because they don't HAVE the same magnificent health care/health insurance little Barron has.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)And if you insist on doing that it makes you a bully.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Is going to KNOWINGLY deny a child health care like his son has, then what does that make him? I've no power to deny any child health care/health insurance. Missing the WHOLE entire point.
tRumputin's literally going to be murdering children, and he's laughing about it... I mean, to take away the ONLY health care/health insurance some children have ever had, and some of these kids will be fighting terminal diseases like cancer and I'm the bully for pointing out that he makes damn sure that his child has health coverage?
But keep on calling me a bully while tRumputin literally murders innocent children.
I swear, some of you guys are scared of FACTS and of tRumputin it seems. We're talking about innocent little children's LIVES here who tRumputin CLEARLY gives no fucks about.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)You just choose not to. That tells me everything I need to know about the kind of person you have decided to be.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)But I'm going to continue bringing Barron into the conversation because your president is the father of a child, who I'm not disrespecting, but posing the question of WHY tRumputin really seems to not give one fuck about others people's children or about children's any child's life. HE will be DENYING them life-saving health care in some cases. If I cannot ask out aloud why this man won't and can't see other children through the lens of his own son, then why bother holding him accountable for anything.
This is hand to hand combat. This is not the time to bring a marshmallow to a gun fight. Children will be dying without health care. They're not going away to camp. They'll be going away in some cases for GOOD. Sorry you seem not to get that. KEEP living in that bubble world, and defending your president who will be the murderer killing other people's kids because he doesn't give one fuck about whether they live or die because they don't HAVE health care like his son Barron.
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)For God's sake - he's an innocent child too. He has had nothing to do with his father's abhorrent behavior. It's wrong to attack someone for the accident of birth. Attack his father, but leave him alone.
Hekate
(90,621 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Barron might be lucky in that way...he has great health insurance and he wants for nothing. But then he has Trashheap Trump as his father...so he deserves more pity than anything. History will accurately record this whole fiasco and either Barron will get absorbed into the lying body of Trump and become party of the seedy scene or he'll see clearly what a dirtbag his father is/was.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)as they did with blind governor Paterson
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Barron is a FUCKING KID. Jesus.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)I mean, really, are you honestly trying to justify going after a 10-year-old kid because his dad's as ass?
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Bettie
(16,083 posts)won't even get the CHIP program anymore. After all, they are not of his exalted bloodline, so if they die...meh.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)You're a bully for pointing this FACT out.
I'd ask tRumputin to his orange, fat, lying, racist, old face why he's denying children life-saving health care/health insurance that his son has. Barron IS a lucky little boy. His Daddy loves him and make sure he has the "BEST" health care. Other people's kids--he gives not one fuck about them living or dying. The man has a child, yet he gives not one fuck about others children.
He's literally going to be a murderer. We're talking about children having access to good, affordable health care which some will die without if they don't have it. Repeal, then don't replace with anything.
I swear, some folks are totally delusional and totally missing the WHOLE Amazon Rainforest's on this issue and only seeing a few trees
Hekate
(90,621 posts)....of showing them off as his appendages.
Bettie
(16,083 posts)just count the money he is extracting from his new grift (being president) and who cares if the little people die.
Heck for all we know, he's getting dead peasant policies on every man, woman, and child who signed up for the ACA so he can collect when they die.
But, I'd quibble on one point. Barron's dad doesn't so much love him as believe that he's a cute accessory right now and will be a yuge stroker of his enormous ego when he gets older.
That's me, the big bully!
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)I couldn't have said ALL of what YOU said better if I was being paid to say it
I would never mock or talk about anyone's child, let alone one who may have autism. I'd never mock him like tRumputin mocked that disabled reporter, and if he doesn't care about his own SON (As you so eloquently pointed out) then that should tell us ALL about him. I mean, the ones who are not living in a bubble. Neither of us I'm assuming mock the disabled, and yet WE'RE the bullies?
Well Bettie, it's good to KNOW that I'm not the only one here in the Bully club
I refuse to bring a marshmallow to a gun fight
Bettie
(16,083 posts)together.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)is being held to a higher standard than Trashpot.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I understand comedy and she was wrong.
Gothmog
(145,063 posts)The right can attack the Obama girls, Chelsea Clinton and even Amy Carter without fear of any consequences. The tweet was not funny but it is not enough to justify suspension
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)poor taste...and sometimes it's not funny so that's not helpful to the comic's cause...the goal is to be funny regardless of the subject matter. And yes of course there is a double standard here...as usual!
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)If so, I suspect you are probably on the wrong site.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)one takes responsibility for their actions and one side blames others
Ilsa
(61,691 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)Paraphrasing : that he would be the first home school shooter. Something like that.
Which, if the kid does have some form of autism, is kind of a mean thing to say. He is rather expressionless and so some might think that makes him "weird". Kind of unfair, if you ask me.
Ilsa
(61,691 posts)He may be emotionally disabled, and any president's kids are undeserving of commentary like that.
MichMary
(1,714 posts)was a real knee-slapper, amiright?
This was not funny on any level.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)eom
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)I've been reading this online for months-- Rosie O' Donnell even started pushing that rumor online. Trump and his campaign have denied that Barron is emotionally disabled or has autism-- I know that's not saying much-- But what if it really is the truth. Where is your proof?
And I don't see the comment as being inappropriate at all. Humor has always been subjective.
Now rewind to the 2008-2016 campaign- And imagine you're one of the Obama daughters reading the racist tweets directed at them for the past 8 years-- A harmless homeschool shooting tweet is nothing compared to what those girls have endured by the racist nutjobs from the GOP.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)I don't know if the little boy is autistic or if he isn't.
But one thing I DO know and I will CONTINUE saying is that little Barron has magnificent health care/health insurance--the best money can BUY--and that many kids in this country his age thanks to his Daddy won't have it and will DIE as a result of it. Where is the outrage against tRumputin for his hatred of children?
And as for the Obama daughters, If I had a penny for the times on line I've seen them called little monkeys, gorillas, chimps, N-words, I'd be rivaling Bill Gates wealth. I have a friend who said she feels sorry for Melania. I said why, she wasn't called an ape in heels of monkey face like Michelle was, AND, Melania is a birther--she said in 2011 on the View that HER birth certificate was more legitimate than Pres. Obama's. Must be her beautiful "white" skin that makes her feel so entitled to feel and say that.
My friend said Oh well screw her too then. I'm still shocked my friend didn't know of Melania's birtherism. Hell no I don't feel sorry for that hussy.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)For me she is the first FLOTUS mail-order bride.
As for Barron-- Just take a look at his brothers and sisters. All of them (Except Ivanka) resemble clueless trust fun kids. Zero sympathy for them.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)I don't know for certain and thin skin Trump would never admit it even if he does. But there were others besides Rosie. Medical people who work with kids on the spectrum that said many of his mannerisms they saw on election night were indicative of some form of autism.
Could also explain why Trumpster is an anti-vaccer. Could also explain why Melania's job as First Lady will tackle bullying. She also doesn't seem like someone who would be concerned about losers being bullied. Unless it's hitting close to home.
I didn't like what was said about the Obama girls, or Chelsea Clinton. And unless Barron Trump is skinning cats alive or finding some skinny kid and intimidating him and bullying him, he doesn't have it coming to him. Jesus, his dad provides enough comedic material what more does one need?
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)a 10 yr old kid being thrust into a spotlight he isn't used to --I would have tics if flashbulbs, cameras, and chaos were going on around me at 10 years of age. I never have believed in armchair medicine-- Medical TV professionals are the worst at spreading this type of nonsense. I'm not holding out hope for the kid-- I mean look at Don Jr., Eric, Tiffany, and Ivanka-- All of them are riding daddy's coattails and spending his Russian backed money.
Ilsa
(61,691 posts)It is even more important to leave it alone.
But btw, some of us have observed tics that made us wonder because they are very familar to us.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)let's not allow a comedienne to use some dark humor directed at the dysfunctional Trump family. Gotcha.
Take a look at his siblings-- And I mean this seriously. All of them have a very "specific" look-- Don't know if that's a sign of something in Trump's genes or what.
Ilsa
(61,691 posts)those signs and symptoms every day, at one time being able to quote the DSM. Given the stress we live with, including how it affects personal relationships, I think we would be remiss in evaluating a candidate without the consideration that they are hiding the fact that their child might either mildly or profoundly disabled.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)spread falsehoods about the Clintons and other politicians that they jabber about online. We all know it's part of their propaganda-- But Barron is just a kid who is part of an effed up family.
I'm not mad at you for stating your opinions-- My stepsister has 3 autistic kids that she cannot control. So I understand the stress and madness that's involved in these types situations.
Ilsa
(61,691 posts)I merely commented that discussing the child was inappropriate, and even more so if he has a disability, because that had already been brought to the attention of the public.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)But as a teacher, I've seen hundreds of kids with autism and I have seen things in him that are indicative of autism. Again, I do not know either way.
LisaM
(27,800 posts)I guess Melania is also tall. So that could account for what people are seeing - he's got the height of someone two or three years older, but he's only ten.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)when he was walking in the street during the parade, he looked like a kid who hasn't grown into his size yet...walks very awkwardly, etc.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)It's actually pretty funny. lol
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)(Else he would be moving to D.C. with Daddy.)
MichMary
(1,714 posts)You know, Columbine and all . . .
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Hekate
(90,621 posts)NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)There is nothing funny about making jokes about a 10 year old. In fact, it's bullying and it's disgusting.
sarisataka
(18,560 posts)got any other school shooting jokes?
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)"Here's another example of over protection. You ever notice on the TV news every time some guy with an AK47 strolls on to a school yard and kills three or four kids and a couple of teachers, the next day... the next day, the school is overrun with counselors and psychiatrists and grief counselors and trauma therapists trying to help the child cope. Shit, when I was in school, someone came to our school and killed three or four of us, we went right on with our arithmetic: "35 classmates minus 4... equals 31". We were tough." -George Carlin
"Heres some bumper stickers Id like to see: We are the proud parents of a child whose self esteem is sufficient that he doesnt need us promoting his minor scholastic achievements on the back of our car. We are the proud parents of a child who has resisted his teachers attempts to break his spirit and bend him to the will of his corporate masters. We have a daughter in public school who hasnt been knocked up yet. We have a son in public school who hasnt shot any of his classmates yet. But he does sell drugs to your honor student. Plus he knocked up your daughter. We are the embarrassed parents of a cross-eyed little nit-wit who at the age of ten not only continues to wet the bed but also shits on the school bus.- George Carlin
There are a few more online-- I tend to like Carlin's take on these types of subjects.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)this is the reason behind Alec Baldwin not showing up!?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)He was at the NYC protest with De Niro, Ruffalo, and Michael Moore on Thurs or Fri.
.99center
(1,237 posts)Where was NBC's outrage when Trump was walking in on their teen beauty pageants and sexually assaulting NBC employees. Anyone surprised that CNBC started airing reruns of Trump's apprentice, a day after Trump was sworn in? What happen to NBC cutting all ties to Trump?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)if what Trump did at the time had been made public there would have been outrage.
.99center
(1,237 posts)It's ok as long as the public doesn't find out.
.99center
(1,237 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)It's classless.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)I agree with you...
But tRumputin doesn't have a problem at all with making fun of the disabled and he sure as hell doesn't give a flying fig about other people's kids. And unlike Barron, many kids in America won't have ANY health care/health insurance, and without health care/health insurance, they'll DIE.
Oh well ...whatever I guess
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)So anyone who makes fun of a child is no better than Trump. In fact, they are even WORSE then Trump because they SHOULD know better. Those emulating Trump by bullying Barron while complaining about what Trump does is not only a useless bully...they are a hypocrite too.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)That useless bully knows better, he just doesn't give a damn about other people's kids and he doesn't care if they die because they don't have magnificent health care/health insurance like little Barron.
But you just keep on giving him a pass and saying tRumputin doesn't KNOW any better. I'm sure tRumputin thanks you for helping to give him a pass, and the kids who will die as a result of not having the magnificent health care/health insurance Barron has won't have a chance to chime in on this discussion, because they'll be too busy DYING because they won't have any health care thanks to the guy you're giving a pass to because he doesn't know any better.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)eom
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)His dad is an asshole.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)actions?
Protip:it isn't. It's called being better than he is...
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Going after little kids isn't cool. I'm all for dark humor, but stuff like that could really screw with a kid. No need to stoop to the level of those people who looked for any reason to attack the Obama daughters, and of course Chelsea Clinton decades ago.
Trump is pretty easy to make fun. There shouldn't be any reason to scrap the bottom of the barrel for 'the funny'
still_one
(92,115 posts)"white house dog"
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/03/15/flashback-when-rush-limbaughs-hate-was-televise/184523
While I don't think mocking children of assholes is a good thing, I am f**king tired of the double standard bullshit
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)That makes loads of sense.
It doesn't matter whose kid it is...
ANYONE...ANYONE who thinks attacking that child is OK is one sick fucking piece of shit.
still_one
(92,115 posts)"While I don't think mocking children of assholes is a good thing, I am f**king tired of the double standard bullshit"
Please show me WHERE I advocated what you said?
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)The fact that you added all the other stuff negated the part I quoted. It's kind of like saying "I'm sorry I shit on your floor...but your dog does it so you should overlook it and not complain if I do it."
still_one
(92,115 posts)for bullshit accusing me of something I did not say
There is a name for that
The DOUBLE STANDARD I REFERRED TO IS THE RIGHT WING AIRWAVES, THAT IS WHY I USED LIMBAUGH AS MY EXAMPLE
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)to attack all other children. There was absolutely NO NEED for you to even bring that up UNLESS you are trying to justify or excuse the attacks on Barron simply because some right wing douche bag did it to someone else.
still_one
(92,115 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:53 PM - Edit history (1)
goodnight
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Sorry so many are arguing this with you.
Smh.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)Gothmog
(145,063 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)It's bad enough she even thought whatever she said but then to put it out there for the world - stupid.
democrank
(11,092 posts)rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)That said, and please hear me out on this, when I suggested that Barron be treated "like his father would treat our daughters" I was subjected to being called a "disturbed individual" and "pathetic excuse for a human being." My post was removed and I had an hour "time out." I ask you, don't those reactions say a lot more about our so-called "President" than they say about me? If I had said "let's treat Barron like Barack Obama would" not a soul would have gone off on me.
These are difficult times and the people here who confuse being really pissed off with being some sort of a sociopath don't help.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)Say whatever the hell you want about Trump but leave that boy alone.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)My point was about his father. How many children has that man frightened? Like I said, no one would have been upset if I had said "like Barack Obama would treat him." It is sad we have a man in the White House so horrid that saying "treat him like The President of the United States of America would" is seen as some sort of depravity.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)are other accusations of much worse... but we know the pageant walk in occurred. We also know he treats certain women like pieces of meat. As far as I'm concerned he has sexually assaulted women. Good point about the Barack Obama thing there.
I mean I still wouldn't attack a kid...but I see the point you are trying to make.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)We have a man in the White House so horrid that saying "treat him like The President of the United States of America would" is seen as some sort of child abuse.
brewens
(13,559 posts)valueee they are, that makes them fair game. That should only come into play if and when they get themselves in trouble. Usually at an older age than this kid is.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)The writer's of the joke screwed up and thought it was Bristol.
Why attack an underage child, even if he is the son of Trumpler?
I know some have been saying "If they go low, we go lower" and have cited the way some conservatives attacked Malia and Sasha as justification, but I just do not see any benefit to going after Barron.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)since EVERY american is at risk of injury and death because of this buffoonish clown, there is consequence for his hate, lies and bigotry, his family should not be inviolate. During the early part of President Obama's second term, it was leaked by his opponents where the girls were on a secret vacation....no one apologized, were suspended or fired, NO ONE!!!! I really don't care if his family is attacked unmercifully. All you people want to play nice, go ahead, see where it gets you.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,442 posts)JimGinPA
(14,811 posts)The idea of a comedy writer sharing an inappropriate joke! I'm shocked & outraged.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)He's not responsible for them.
Kilgore
(1,733 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)the fact is that Baron is a hostage here not one of the hostage takers. Now Ivanka, Jared, Eric all grown ass people who are actively making money off of daddy's deeds, by all means. however, for all we know, Baron might be one of the more miserable little boys in Washington, thanks to his dad, his siblings, and his mother. We as a nation hate being at the mercy of Donald Trump, now imagine that SOB is your own dad. That is not something I would take for all the wealth of Vladimir Putin.
Besides you never know, seeing as how he has a first class front row seat to a morality play entitled "no money can't buy you happiness, or class" he may grew up to be a fine liberal.
VOX
(22,976 posts)"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters." - D.J. Trump, 01/23/2016
Should Katie Rich have posted that I'll-advised tweet? Emphatically, no. And rightfully, she's been punished.
But the double standard STINKS. There are clearly two Americas: one where mega-money buys you extra freedom to say/do insane shit; and one where if you even try to do what the rich guy just did, you'll get kneecapped.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Barron asked for none of this.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:04 AM - Edit history (1)
more than 140 characters... he doesn't have it in him to write more.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Katie Rich is lucky she was only suspended.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)That was a horrible tweet. Attacking a child is wrong. She is lucky she still has a job.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Barron was just a tool for her to make fun of his Dad and the f&cked up situation they are raising him in, and it does make an important social statement about these school shootings, which are being encouraged by his parents.
I think this was a brave cartoon for her to make about an important issue, which is again being pushed under the rug.