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Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:19 PM

I am strongly asking people who did NOT vote for trump to STOP fighting each other,

The primaries, and people on our team. We ALL need to work together to figure out what we need to do, look at the legislation already passed by the repig house. We have NO time for this stupid infighting. Roll up your sleeves, put on your comfortable shoes, those of you who can write checks, but whatever you do, STOP fighting with the people on our own god damn team.

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Reply I am strongly asking people who did NOT vote for trump to STOP fighting each other, (Original post)
onecaliberal Jan 2017 OP
NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #1
SticksnStones Jan 2017 #2
calikid Jan 2017 #52
MrPurple Jan 2017 #3
world wide wally Jan 2017 #19
elleng Jan 2017 #36
herding cats Jan 2017 #4
Dream Girl Jan 2017 #5
cwydro Jan 2017 #23
Dream Girl Jan 2017 #43
Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #56
Dream Girl Jan 2017 #44
Dream Girl Jan 2017 #6
angrychair Jan 2017 #18
Separation Jan 2017 #54
demmiblue Jan 2017 #7
Arazi Jan 2017 #8
Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #9
jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 #10
angrychair Jan 2017 #20
emulatorloo Jan 2017 #28
elleng Jan 2017 #35
secondwind Jan 2017 #11
DRoseDARs Jan 2017 #12
Alice11111 Jan 2017 #13
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #14
onecaliberal Jan 2017 #15
elleng Jan 2017 #32
Coolest Ranger Jan 2017 #16
world wide wally Jan 2017 #21
ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2017 #17
Tatiana Jan 2017 #22
baldguy Jan 2017 #24
BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #25
nevergiveup Jan 2017 #26
riversedge Jan 2017 #27
betsuni Jan 2017 #49
RKP5637 Jan 2017 #29
emulatorloo Jan 2017 #30
elleng Jan 2017 #31
TheKingofSoup Jan 2017 #33
onecaliberal Jan 2017 #38
Martin Eden Jan 2017 #34
Leith Jan 2017 #37
matelize Jan 2017 #39
gordianot Jan 2017 #40
Thirties Child Jan 2017 #41
onecaliberal Jan 2017 #45
LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #42
otohara Jan 2017 #46
lastlib Jan 2017 #48
otohara Jan 2017 #50
JHan Jan 2017 #51
lillypaddle Jan 2017 #47
demmiblue Jan 2017 #53
mvd Jan 2017 #55
onecaliberal Jan 2017 #57

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:22 PM

1. Bravo. I emphasize this plea.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:24 PM

2. Middle child?

Just wondering...




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Response to SticksnStones (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:00 PM

52. I'm a middle child,

maybe that's why I recommend this thread. lol

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:24 PM

3. Seconded X 1000

Bernie represents a legitimate perspective within the party and centrists have their views as well. Policy discussions are a sign of a healthy party, but we need to fully focus all energies against an abhorrent foe of historic dimensions.

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:32 PM

19. We are anything BUT "healthy" right now

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:01 PM

36. YES!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:26 PM

4. I add my voice to your plea.

We need each other, now more than ever. I accept that some see things differently than I do, but we're all more alike than we are different. We need to unite on our areas of joint concern and make our voices too loud to be ignored.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:32 PM

5. Here! Here!

Pledging to not relitigate the primaries. Will no longer take the bait.

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:37 PM

23. It's "Hear, Hear!"

If you want to write it correctly.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #23)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:44 PM

43. I never knew that! Always thought it referred to the person speaking as in "here I am

And I agree with what is being said!". Makes sense that it could be "Hear, hear" as in "listen to what is being said" or "I'm listening/hearing to what has been said and I heartily concur". Oh well you learn something new every day. Thanks for the correction.

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #43)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:56 PM

56. I have to look that one up every time I start to use it!

Origin and Meaning of the Phrase Hear, Hear


The phrase hear, hear seems to have come into existence as an abbreviation of the phrase hear him, hear him, which was well-established in Parliament in the late seventeenth century. The UK Parliament prides itself on its lively debates, and saying “hear him, hear him” was a way to draw attention to what a person was saying. And in case you were wondering, there was no “hear her, hear her” variation—the first female MP was elected in the twentieth century. Sometime during the eighteenth century hear him, hear him acquired its short form, hear, hear, and that form is still used today.

When you say hear, hear, you are in fact saying that you agree with something another person has just said. So you can replace hear, hear with phrases such as “I agree wholeheartedly,” “what he/she said,” or “yeah,” depending on the formality of the setting and the speakers. Hear, hear can also be used as a cheer; that’s why you sometimes hear it at the end of toasts.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #23)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:46 PM

44. In any event, I heartily concur! Or is it heartily concur?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:34 PM

6. Maybe the post mortem should be shut down or renamed?

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:31 PM

18. +1,000,000. N/T

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:11 PM

54. Absolutely!

If nothing more than the primaries are history now.

With a Republican-controlled Congress, all thought now should be on how to stop or slow down any bad (which most are) Republican bills. All the while thinking forward to 2018! Every damn democrat down the line should be supported if a Republican is up for reelection! There is no reason that the DNC doesnt have a huge get out the vote, even for long shots.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:35 PM

7. Thank you, I agree. n/t

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:37 PM

8. +1000 and many more too!!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:38 PM

9. Agree.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:43 PM

10. bravo

 

I have had it with bashing Bernie, Jill, Thom Hartmann, Ed Schultz, Bill Maher, Michael Moore...we are all on the same side. We are supposed to be the GOOD guys.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:32 PM

20. Grain of salt

Ed and Thom are on RT which is going to put them in a negative light given the situation with Russia.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:47 PM

28. Agreed! But not so sure about Stein yet.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:00 PM

35. YES!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:53 PM

11. amen... tired of seeing folks tearing each other down!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:54 PM

12. But her emails! And Bernie doesn't like black people! nt

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:55 PM

13. Yes, Unite and conquer

Otherwise, we are playing right into Putins hand...and Chavetz, Turtleman, Bannon, PR, and the Dumster's.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:00 PM

14. Thank you.

The primaries are long since over. Some of us were happy with the result and others were not, but that's all water under the bridge now. We have a real problem to deal with, and if we don't stick together we'll get run over. I have just decided that I will no longer post in any thread that trashes either of the primary candidates or that whines about the meanies at JPL. In fact, I'll hide those threads so I won't even be tempted. Fuck that noise; we have work to do.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:15 PM

15. I do the same already regarding trashing threads. We've got work to do

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:59 PM

32. Thanks, Ocelot!

We have HUGE work to do!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:16 PM

16. I will when

they stop trying to make us all as pure as them

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:35 PM

21. Beyond Trump's pure bullshit, I don't think "purity" is much of an issue right now.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:16 PM

17. +1000

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:36 PM

22. Could not have said it better.

We're on the same team. We voted for Hillary.

Now we have to figure out a way to fight this fascist puppet and save our country from disaster.

The only way we can do it is if we stick together.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:41 PM

24. The only national liberal/progressive organization in place to fight & defeat the fascists

 

Is The Democratic Party.

Anyone whose main goal is to attack, dismantle & defeat the Democratic Party is not "on our team", no matter what claims they have made as to who they did or did not vote for.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:43 PM

25. + a million or so! eom

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #25)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:46 PM

26. Yes, it is time.

Our survival depends on it.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:46 PM

27. +1

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Response to baldguy (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:15 PM

49. +1

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:49 PM

29. Exactly! While we fight, the R's/deplorables, etc. sit back and laugh. I'm fed up with hearing

about the primaries. FFS, the primaries are over, and now we have a monstrous ass moving into the WH. Divide and Conquer over the primaries is not doing anyone any F'en good except the others. It sounds like a grade school playground, so damn immature. FFS, stop it!


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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:50 PM

30. Rec! Thanks for posting!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:56 PM

31. YES! PLEASE!

I'm seeing so much bickering here! It's utterly non-productive, unless folks' goals are to assure MORE repug selected officials! And MEAN!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:59 PM

33. Fight? Never!

 

But there's no getting around the fact that if Democrats are ever going to be able to saddle up and ride off in fewer than 360 different directions at once*, we're going to have to have some discussions and even arguments amongst ourselves, mostly about how progressive the party is going to be. Not all our differences are petty bickering, and suppressing dissent isn't going to be any healthier for the party than it is for the country as a whole.



*Thanks to Molly Ivins for the metaphor.

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Response to TheKingofSoup (Reply #33)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:04 PM

38. I'm not disputing that we have conversations. Democrats didn't lose the election.

It was ripped off. The voter suppression, crosscheck and gerrymandering is allowing a small minority to hold the entire country hostage to their backwards bullshit thinking. We need to get to work undoing this shit or die trying because that's our lot ether way if we don't succeed.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:00 PM

34. We're bound to disagree on some things

It is necessary that we discuss important issues, especially when we disagree.

But we have to keep in mind at all times:
We share a common goal and we are not the enemy.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:03 PM

37. I Wholeheartedly Agree

I caucused for Sanders in the primaries despite being banged up and bruised from a short tumble down the stairs a couple days earlier. Still, when HRC won the nomination, I threw my support behind her 100%. For me, it was a no-brainer. I love her record of supporting families and children, her work on getting healthcare to people, her years of service and experience, how she is the best known and most respected woman the world over. She is intelligent, capable, and tough as nails.

I've watched people from both the Sanders camp and the Clinton camp attack each other with such ferocity that they act more like rethugs on angel dust than normal people. I just have to believe that the worst of them have to be paid trolls.

Just keep this in mind: the rethugs are reading DU and laughing their stupid asses off. Let them get their entertainment somewhere else. If you just can't get through the day without insulting your fellow democrat, progressive, liberal, socialist, etc., join stormfront or 4chan. Those are your kind of people.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:10 PM

39. Agree

Amen to that, as we are facing a crisis of unimaginable consequences. We must all work together to fight this challenge to our Democracy. The bottom line is we all believe in the same unalienable rights for all, and we must stand together to fight this madman.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:12 PM

40. Divide and conquer does seem to be effective.

Apply it to the Republicans and the orange haired traitor. They may deny it but it hurts. Very easy to laugh at them to their face.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:24 PM

41. Thanks. Maybe I'll once again feel comfortable here.

I came to DU in 2004 when Wes Clark dropped out, felt I no longer belonged during the 2016 primaries. I still feel like a woman-without-a country when I read the Bernie-bashing comments that permeate this forum. Out-of-place at DU, don't fit at the other place. Sigh. I voted for HRC in the GE, not that it made any difference in my red, red state.

Btw, I lost DU membership in 2012 when we moved back to GA from NM. New server, new computer, forgotten password, DU refused to recognize me. Had no choice but to start over.

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Response to Thirties Child (Reply #41)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:48 PM

45. Welcome back! Please stay and roll up your sleeves. We need all of us.

We're going to fight together or hang separately.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:25 PM

42. "...our own god damn team"

There's the rub. For some on here they can't get past a letter in front of a name. They read the word "team" as not only Democrats party members only, but a secluded conservative segment of that party.

I have reacted to OPs whose whole purpose is to angrily disparage someone outside the party to the point of blaming them for the loss itself, even though they share the same goals to fight Trump and the GOP's draconian policies.

If someone on here starts an OP with the intent on sowing discord by doing this, I feel compelled to defend against that destructive divisive practice. I won't ever start an OP like this, but I will push back if someone else does. I just wish they'd grow up and stop it.

I hear what you are saying. But there is a fine line between dissecting the direction of the party for decades now, (for the purpose of finding better ways forward) and not including the Clintons who had a big part in that. But we can all, myself included, restrict it to non-primary talk. No use Bernie supporters whining about the DNC stepping on the scales for Hillary, as is Hillary supporters whining about Bernie simply running as a D and daring to be popular and steal her thunder. The primaries are over.

I welcome both Clinton's help as well as Sanders and Warren. And this should go for their supporters as well.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:49 PM

46. Does That Include

 

Bernie Sanders?

Or not because I'm never sure what team he's on exactly.

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Response to otohara (Reply #46)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:15 PM

48. If he is opposed to Drumpf, he's on my team....

...and I'm on his. Let's fight this fight TOGETHER!

We must all hang together now. Or we will hang separately.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #48)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:25 PM

50. He Opposes Democrats #byebyebooker

 

more than Trump...thus causing his followers to go into attack mode on Twitter/Facebook

Go check out #byebyebooker



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Response to otohara (Reply #50)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:35 PM

51. I just checked it...

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:55 PM

47. United we stand ...

and you know the rest.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:09 PM

53. I urge the majority of us to view this thread and take note of those...

who do not intend to move on.

These people make DU suck.

We need to come together and brace ourselves for the storm that is about to strike.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:13 PM

55. We do need to be united right now against Trump

It's too bad even some posts in this thread go against your post. Of course, there will still be discussion, and we will have to re-visit things eventually. But Trump is the biggest threat right now - not Sanders, Stein, Clinton, Booker, etc.

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Response to mvd (Reply #55)

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 09:15 PM

57. I have moved on from those folks. They're sitting in my dust bin as I haven't time for

Anything counterproductive from this point forward.

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