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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
2. If that's true, I'd really like Obama to tell him
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 02:20 PM
Nov 2016

"Hey, you wanted this gig. I had to learn it on the job and you'll have to do it the same way. See ya."

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. Or "Leave the ACA in place and stand up for minority rights and maybe I'll help you out."
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 03:46 PM
Nov 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

Response to randome (Reply #13)

MANative

(4,112 posts)
3. If that's true, and I really don't doubt it, I hope that PBO
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 02:20 PM
Nov 2016

tags some pretty big quid pro quo items (in contractual form of some sort) as contingent. While there's a temptation to tell him to "Fuck off", I think PBO would be (rightly) more concerned about the future of our nation.

LisaM

(27,806 posts)
5. Obama should tell him to step down.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 02:23 PM
Nov 2016

It's not too late, please, for everyone's sake, give it up now.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
6. I hope he gives it. He needs to steer trump clear of getting
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 02:23 PM
Nov 2016

advice from the crazies and Alt-R nuts. It might be the best way to salvage something of our democracy.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
7. If this fool follows what would undoubtable be good advice from our wonderful president
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 02:26 PM
Nov 2016

that would be good for the nation. I doubt that the the doofus will. It will be like casting pearls before swine. But one can hope. I really want the 'Rump to turn away from the dark to the light. I don't hold a lot of hope but I would rather hope than despair.

canetoad

(17,153 posts)
8. Right now is the time
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 02:26 PM
Nov 2016

For the President to read the Obama/Biden memes for suggestions on how to 'help'.

MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
9. Love to know where that scuttle came from!
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 02:27 PM
Nov 2016

Our President should use the "natural consequences" parenting technique for our Toddler Elect. The orange nightmare needs to fail miserably...on his own and in front of all of us. THAT is the natural consequence of being woefully unprepared for the job of Commander in Chief.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Mr.President Obama wants
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 02:44 PM
Nov 2016

to save our Constitution from the hacks of hell. Remember,Harry Reid protected the rules of congeniality in the Senate,and,Mr.Obama wants to protect the Office of President in the same manner.

Trump is so out of his Governing capabilities that we are going to see a real Constitutional Crises.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
11. Trump will not take any advice from Obama, nor any other past president.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 03:41 PM
Nov 2016

He believes he is infallible. Remember, he knows "more about ISIS than any of the generals do."

malaise

(268,967 posts)
12. I'll never forget that
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 03:44 PM
Nov 2016

I hope I'm alive long enough to find out what really went down here. To borrow a line from a cricketer commentator, 'I'm still in a state of stunned incredulity".

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. I think you're wrong. He believes he never has to admit publicly that he needs advice.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 03:50 PM
Nov 2016

In private it may be a different matter. So long as he can maintain his stupid image, he won't care.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. Obama will give Trump every opportunity to succeed. As he should.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 03:49 PM
Nov 2016

The transition we undergo is actually pretty amazing from President to President. Obama should do everything in his power to set Trump up for a smooth transition.

IcyPeas

(21,865 posts)
16. birtherism. never forget.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 03:58 PM
Nov 2016

bastard doesn't deserve Obama's help or advice.

Donald Trump Clung to ‘Birther’ Lie for Years, and Still Isn’t Apologetic


It was not true in 2011, when Donald J. Trump mischievously began to question President Obama’s birthplace aloud in television interviews. “I’m starting to think that he was not born here,” he said at the time.

It was not true in 2012, when he took to Twitter to declare that “an ‘extremely credible source’” had called his office to inform him that Mr. Obama’s birth certificate was “a fraud.”

It was not true in 2014, when Mr. Trump invited hackers to “please hack Obama’s college records (destroyed?) and check ‘place of birth.’”

It was never true, any of it. Mr. Obama’s citizenship was never in question. No credible evidence ever suggested otherwise.

Yet it took Mr. Trump five years of dodging, winking and joking to surrender to reality, finally, on Friday, after a remarkable campaign of relentless deception that tried to undermine the legitimacy of the nation’s first black president.

He nurtured the conspiracy like a poisonous flower, watering and feeding it with an ardor that still baffles and embarrasses many around him.

Mr. Trump called up like-minded sowers of the same corrosive rumor, asking them for advice on how to take a falsehood and make it mainstream in 2011, as he weighed his own run for the White House.


“Why doesn’t he show his birth certificate?” Mr. Trump asked on ABC’s “The View.” “I want to see his birth certificate,” he told Fox News’s “On the Record.”

And so it went.

The essential question — Why promote a lie? — may be unanswerable. Was it sport? Was it his lifelong quest to court media attention? Was it racism? Was it the cynical start of his eventual campaign for president?


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther.html


malaise

(268,967 posts)
17. I don't intend to forget or forgive
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 04:12 PM
Nov 2016

He must be fugging crazy to expect a warm fuzzy Kumbaya from anyone least of all Obama.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
19. Obama gives Trump an orientation:
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:39 PM
Nov 2016

"Come on in, Donald; you said you'd like some advice. Glad to help. First of all, this will be your desk. The top drawer has all the pens, pencils and post-it notes you'll need. There's also a box of those souvenir pens for signing important legislation. For the regular stuff you can use one of these Bics. In this other drawer there's a stapler and a box of paper clips and some of those big binder clips. You can keep anything you want in the big drawers, like press clippings and that spray tan you like.

"This is the phone. It's just a regular phone - you can't start World War III on it; you have to use the one in the Situation Room for that. There's a manual in the desk that explains the functions, but basically you can press this button to get your secretary. Kellyanne? These are the speed dial buttons. I've already programmed the cabinet secretaries' office numbers but you probably will want to put Vladimir Putin's number in there too. I don't have it; I don't call him very much.

"Here's the Football. You've probably heard about the president's football; well, this is it. It's a nice one, isn't it? Regulation NFL. It's even got some autographs. Here's Dan Marino, Brett Favre; look, here's Tom Brady. Joe and I used to toss it around out there on the lawn. The thing is, you have to take it with you wherever you go. That's kind of inconvenient sometimes, but it's a custom or something, like pardoning a Thanksgiving turkey.

"Over here is the bathroom. It's nice to have a private bathroom but just keep in mind that the plumbing is kind of old so the toilet doesn't always flush properly. You might have to jiggle the handle, like this. It's best not to use a whole lot of toilet paper because once in awhile it clogs and that can be a little embarrassing if it was somebody like the President of France who was using it. Or Vladimir Putin. Just don't try to flush a lot of you-know-what down it at once. So maybe you shouldn't let Steve Bannon use it at all.

"You can do some redecorating but it has to be approved by the Commission for the Preservation of the White House, so the Baroque whorehouse look is gonna be a non-starter. It doesn't match the place at all. Congress has to allocate funds for decorating, so you won't be able to do much gold-plating. You can get some new drapes, a rug, maybe some knick-knacks - a few busts of yourself, maybe. That wall over there might work for that painting of you that your foundation bought, and I know you have a lot of other pictures of yourself that you could put up. I mean, paintings of Washington and Jefferson and those guys are all over the place; you should have something you really like to look at, right?

"As for the rest of it, you're on your own. You have the best mind, right? So, no problem. Just don't let the toilet overflow and you'll be fine. See ya...."

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