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Mon Sep 5, 2016, 12:22 PM

If you're a white gun humping government hating American seizing and occupying government land

Causing millions of dollars in vandalism, we will treat you with kindness and deference. If you are Native American trying to protect your own land and water, you will be threatened with arrest, vicious dogs will be released to attack you, your movement will be restricted on your own land. I've heard almost none of this on the main stream media.

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Reply If you're a white gun humping government hating American seizing and occupying government land (Original post)
onecaliberal Sep 2016 OP
G_j Sep 2016 #1
Initech Sep 2016 #2
onecaliberal Sep 2016 #3
awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #12
Initech Sep 2016 #15
ffr Sep 2016 #4
lunatica Sep 2016 #5
Mike__M Sep 2016 #28
Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #6
elmac Sep 2016 #7
awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #13
mwrguy Sep 2016 #8
astral Sep 2016 #34
Saviolo Sep 2016 #35
snooper2 Sep 2016 #37
malaise Sep 2016 #9
Punx Sep 2016 #10
demigoddess Sep 2016 #11
revmclaren Sep 2016 #30
newrandomuser Sep 2016 #14
onecaliberal Sep 2016 #16
Mike__M Sep 2016 #31
nikto Sep 2016 #17
jack_krass Sep 2016 #18
lastlib Sep 2016 #19
NuclearDem Sep 2016 #23
Exilednight Sep 2016 #24
lastlib Sep 2016 #25
NuclearDem Sep 2016 #26
lastlib Sep 2016 #27
2naSalit Sep 2016 #29
Orrex Sep 2016 #33
JunkYardDogg Sep 2016 #20
Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #21
Feeling the Bern Sep 2016 #22
mark67 Sep 2016 #32
TryLogic Sep 2016 #36
niyad Sep 2016 #38
sagetea Sep 2016 #39
geardaddy Sep 2016 #40
onecaliberal Sep 2016 #41

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 12:34 PM

1. K&R!

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Response to Initech (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 01:24 PM

3. Really? How long did they occupy GOVERNMENT land before they were taken out.

How much damage did they cause? Enjoy the dust bin

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Response to Initech (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 03:04 PM

12. You're kidding, right? nt

 

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 03:10 PM

15. Yeah this is a joke that backfired and I'd like to bail out now.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 01:45 PM

4. The failings of our corporate media, selling what they want to sell

They don't want equal justice to be seen or heard. Theirs is a political agenda for power and wealth. Native American Indians won't provide any of those qualities to them, however rich RW Bundy supporters will. It just takes a corrupt branch of the media, like Fox Entertainment to broadcast propaganda and the nation's followers will follow.

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Response to ffr (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 01:52 PM

5. You nailed it

Not only should the media be covering this issue and the treatment that Native Americans are still subjected to, but they should drag Hillary and Trump and President Obama onto the carpet to answer for they're complete lack of action or interest in the subject.

They'd be all over it if the candidates needed the Native American vote in order to win.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:40 PM

28. Exactly

T y.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 01:53 PM

6. Anything that makes the black community

my community look bad the media goes for it. But anything that makes the white man looks good, they run with it 24/7. I'm sick of the way the media treats us

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 02:23 PM

7. There is no media in this country

 

only canned corporate propaganda. The million dollar propaganda anchors are not to be trusted either, welcome to 1984 on steroids.

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Response to elmac (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 03:06 PM

13. With our quest for "entertainment"

 

and self-medication, I think we are a hybrid of Orwell and Huxley.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 02:26 PM

8. They did shoot that one douchebag

Hey, it's a start.

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:38 AM

34. He was unarmed, and there is a story to that incident.

 

Whether or not you believe in what these people were doing, they were not committing violence. He got out of the car so police would stop shooting AT THE CAR FULL OF PEOPLE. He walked away from the car, held his arms up, and said go ahead and shoot me. And they did. They were supposedly on their way to a place to meet with authorities when they found out it was a setup and they were getting shot at and forced to stop driving. This is what I remember from the interview with the victim's wife, who was a passenger in the car.

What were they thinking? Was everyone in the car supposed to die? That's the only thing that makes sense to me.

And perhaps population control can be achieved by shooting every person labeled as a 'douchebag' anyway. That would include everyone who carries ('humps') guns.

Being armed is Un-American now. Calling yourself an American is also Un-American it would seem.

RIP, LaVoy Finicum.

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Response to astral (Reply #34)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:49 AM

35. That was all after he attempted vehicular homicide

I watched the video, one officer had to dive out of the way of that truck as it came up on the snowbank directly at him.

They weren't committing violence, they were inviting it. Repeatedly. They said over and over that if the feds came to take the government-owned taxpayer-funded land back from the occupiers, that they would happily have a violent standoff with federal agents. They'd rather die than be in prison, etc...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/01/27/lavoy-finicum-ore-occupier-who-said-hed-rather-die-than-go-to-jail-did-just-that/

They had repeatedly told the media that they were armed and ready to retaliate if federal agents decided to intervene, so the federal agents were rightly worried about armed retaliation.

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Response to astral (Reply #34)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:22 AM

37. Um, no- Blue Tarp man had a loaded handgun in his coat pocket and went for it

 

Blue Tarp man wanted to die and, he did. A lot of us are upset he didn't get buried with the blue tarp though

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 02:27 PM

9. Great post

Truth will out

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 02:28 PM

10. Trial starts Tomorrow

I happen to know people who work for the federal government at the courthouse, and suffice to say they are not happy with these idiots. This trial is going to have heavy security and be very expensive. More of taxpayer money gone because of them.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 03:00 PM

11. I miss Walter Cronkite.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 01:17 AM

30. Me too!

Way back when reporters reported news, and didn't try to twist it, fabricate it, or hide it when ordered to do so by their 'owners'. Truth to the public meant something.

These are sad and frustrating times.



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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 03:09 PM

14. I have read several articles on this and each one said it wasn't on tribal land?

 

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Response to newrandomuser (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 04:12 PM

16. The lines WILL run within a mile of their land and WILL poison THEIR water

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Response to newrandomuser (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 02:26 AM

31. Define "tribal land"

Most of us consider all of the "New World" to be tribal land. Federal Indian Law sees it as what they define as "Indian Country." Popular misconception sees it contained strictly within reservation boundaries.
It (the pipeline and excavation) is not on the reservation, but passes close to it. However, most treaties (the supreme law of the land according to Article VI of the constitution) recognized, confirmed and preserved the peoples' rights to customary use of their ancestral treaty lands and waters. I don't know about the Fort Laramie treaty, but I'd guess the pipeline is violating those kinds of lands and waters.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 04:35 PM

17. Great tip for when you talk to a Conserva"teeve" ...

 

Any RWer who complains about Colin Kaepernick's defiance of the Anthem,
should be asked how they feel about Cliven Bundy's governmental defiance in
(Malheur National Forest) Nevada in 2014 (you know-----Heavily-armed, hi-jacking a gov't facility,
costing taxpayers million$, Bundy's greedy motive--Not paying fees, desiring the land for his own own personal profit, etc etc).


I predict, at least 50% of the Kaepernick-haters LOVE Cliven Bundy,
making them hypocrites of the most disgusting kind.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 04:48 PM

18. Ridiculous hyperbole... Ask David Koresh and Randy Weaver how well they were treated by the feds....

 

How about we demand that the feds treat *everyone* with at least dignity and respect.

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Response to jack_krass (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 07:04 PM

19. Ask the feds how well they were treated by Timothy McVeigh.

(I think you may have a couple too many letters in your name......)

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Response to lastlib (Reply #19)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:15 PM

23. Oklahoma City came after Waco and Ruby Ridge.

 

The mishandling of Waco and Ruby Ridge ultimately made the federal government ease its tactics against white supremacists and militias, and the fallout from Oklahoma City made the militia movement toxic and eventually caused it die out.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #23)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:34 PM

24. True, but it did nothing to curb their enthusiasm to use force against the native population

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Response to lastlib (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:59 PM

26. The militia movement of the time died out.

 

I didn't say it doesn't exist today.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #26)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:09 PM

27. I would vigorously disagree.

During the past fifteen years, I monitored the SPLC's website, as well as others, tracking these organizations, and witnessed their growth. Two decades after OKC, they have new leadership, and exist in different groups, and some of the groups of the time are gone, but the militia movement has never gone away. Some of the old groups may have experienced a decline but they are still in existence.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #26)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:59 PM

29. Sure didn't die out

up here in rendyweaverland or davidkorechville. They got quiet for a spell, they never died out, I live here and have since before those events, they are just starting to get fidgety again so we see/hear them acting out again, especially because of Kochs and the vapid hate for Obama.

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Response to jack_krass (Reply #18)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:22 AM

33. Yes, let's cite examples from decades in the past as if they're currently relevant

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 07:18 PM

20. They are The "We Want Free Stuff Militia"

Oh,
and don't forget to send free Weed

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 07:22 PM

21. Hear, hear!!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2016, 09:05 PM

22. Because no one gives a shit. We have been a country of narrow minded, self-interested, nihilistic

 

sociopaths. I do not believe in my heart those types of the minority.

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Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:17 AM

36. Despicable

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:37 AM

38. k and r

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:51 AM

39. I just spent the best week of my life there at Standing Rock

To witness over 180 tribes standing in unity, was to say the least, remarkable! Those "white, gun humping, government hating, American seizing and occupying government land" idiots, have no clue how to be in unity. These people are prepared for the long haul, they've been attacked by dogs, pepper sprayed, lied to and lied about, yet they still are strong with true righteousness and doing it all with out guns.

I stand with Standing Rock


A`Ho

Sage

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 12:26 PM

40. Thom Hartmann just mentioned your post on his show!

K and R

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Response to geardaddy (Reply #40)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 12:55 PM

41. Wow!!

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