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Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:44 PM

As a Bernie supporter and now strong Hillary supporter, I'd like to say...

The protests and childish outbursts happening at the convention are damaging Bernies movement and will make it more difficult for reasonable people to "hear" their voices. I'm supportive of protests, but not those who benefit the crazy clown show on the right to embarrass our candidate. I urge people to really think about what a trump presidency would do to this country. Don't be selfish and immature.

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Reply As a Bernie supporter and now strong Hillary supporter, I'd like to say... (Original post)
onecaliberal Jul 2016 OP
Chasstev365 Jul 2016 #1
Still In Wisconsin Jul 2016 #2
kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #6
Kathy M Jul 2016 #28
lark Jul 2016 #33
kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #35
sarae Jul 2016 #30
Still In Wisconsin Jul 2016 #31
sarae Jul 2016 #34
sufrommich Jul 2016 #3
Chasstev365 Jul 2016 #7
liberalmuse Jul 2016 #4
geek tragedy Jul 2016 #5
onecaliberal Jul 2016 #8
geek tragedy Jul 2016 #10
Andy823 Jul 2016 #22
Dawgs Jul 2016 #9
onecaliberal Jul 2016 #11
Dawgs Jul 2016 #16
world wide wally Jul 2016 #23
4lbs Jul 2016 #12
onecaliberal Jul 2016 #13
LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #25
onecaliberal Jul 2016 #37
MFM008 Jul 2016 #14
bhusar Jul 2016 #15
onecaliberal Jul 2016 #18
pamela Jul 2016 #19
pnwmom Jul 2016 #21
bhusar Jul 2016 #27
Rocknrule Jul 2016 #17
onecaliberal Jul 2016 #20
Lanius Jul 2016 #24
LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #26
ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #29
auntpurl Jul 2016 #32
mcar Jul 2016 #36

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:46 PM

1. I just said almost the same thing on another post.

 

I wish they would just leave instead of being assholes!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:48 PM

2. A couple handfuls of assholes are making all of us Bernie supporters look like tools...

 

pissed off.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:53 PM

6. Wrong. They are making THEMSELVES look like tools - of the RW.

 

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:58 PM

28. Yes .... Agree

If they were really serious about an issue why not take advantage of time at convention to talk to people , learn , make contacts and get involved themselves . They wanted to start at top and work down ... does not work that way its the bottom and work up ...... they are making fools of themselves and probably do not care

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 06:28 PM

33. Exactly!

How can anyone who truly supported Bernie even think about voting for Trump? I just don't get it. Bernie is left wing, anti-racist, pro-choice, pro LGBT rights, pro increasing the minimum wage, pro increasing taxes on the rich. The only thing in the world those 2 have in common as far as policy is anti-trade bills. Why would any of them do anything to help Trump win? Not voting, voting for someone else is just letting Trump win.

This leftist Bernie supporter is gladly supporting HRC as the alternative is totally unthinkable.

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Response to lark (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 06:59 PM

35. Same for THIS leftist Bernie supporter. I am 100% on board with HRC now.

 

And i still love and support Bernie's policies and his progressive chops. He just isn't our candidate now.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 06:14 PM

30. I can tell the average Bernie supporter is nothing like the few attention-hungry

assholes that chant "Lock her up", and I'm sure everyone else can, too. If anything, this has made me appreciate the regular Bernie supporters a lot more.

Besides, every group has its assholes!

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Response to sarae (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 06:16 PM

31. Thanks for making that distinction!

 

I really hope others do the same. You're right that every group has a-holes.

Heck there are even some obnoxious Green Bay Packer fans! Two or three maybe

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #31)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 06:34 PM

34. Hah!

No worries, I think most people can make the distinction and if they don't, they're probably assholes themselves.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:50 PM

3. We know the difference between BoBs and Bernie supporters.

Unfortunately,the viewers at home won't see the difference.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:54 PM

7. Especially when Goebellsvision (Fox News) MSNBC & CNN will play it to the hilt

 

When an asshole runs on the field during a baseball game you don't show them and give them the attention . The netwotks will do the opposite with these losers tonight!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:52 PM

4. They're highly disrespectful to Bernie...

not to mention the civil rights activists they've been trying to drown out.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:52 PM

5. thanks for speaking out on this.

 

you've hit the bulls-eye on how this will backfire.

What will be the response to this from party officials?

Make sure that fewer ordinary citizens get named delegates and replace them with party insiders. To erect barriers to prevent newly registered Democrats from playing an active role.


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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:59 PM

8. I can guarantee this will make party officials close ranks. Who could blame them?

It's just selfishness. The inability to stop and think. It's kinda of stunning to me to see folks acting like 4'year olds holding their breath because they didn't get their way. Bernie always said his movement wasn't about him. He kept his word every step of the way. It's just sad they can't follow his lead if they supposedly respect him and trust him.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:01 PM

10. a lot of them latched onto his candidacy like barnacles on a ship.

 

they'd be happy to see Trump stomp all over everything Bernie has worked for.

Because of spite.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:19 PM

22. Exactly.

Many of the BOBers were also part of the "anyone but Hillary" group, we had some here on DU who also were also in the "anti Obama" groups also. They are NOT really Democrats, Liberals or Progressives. I heard an interview the other day where one of the admitted that a bunch of them were never Democrats to begin with.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:00 PM

9. LOL! It won't hurt the movement one bit. nt

 

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:02 PM

11. It already has, myopic much.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:49 PM

16. It has? With who? nt

 

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:28 PM

23. Don't kid yourself

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:07 PM

12. It will also serve to reinforce a possible future DNC stance for Democratic candidates

where they must be registered Democrats for at least 2 years, and more cause for closed primaries, than caucuses or open.

The thinking will be "well, we tried to be open and a few nutjobs ruined it for everyone. F*** that!"

Had these extremely vocal "Democratic supporters" confined their protestations to the outside, and politely sat silent inside, maybe a golf clap or two, then the DNC would have been more likely to stay open.

In essence, no pun intended, it's like burning the house down because you don't like the landlord, and then in a few years, wondering why no landlord will allow you entrance, or at least making sure you don't have access to flammable materials.

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Response to 4lbs (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:08 PM

13. Couldn't agree more. Thanks.

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Response to 4lbs (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:41 PM

25. Part of this needs to be handled better at the county level.

County chairs need to vet state convention delegates so they don't get an open door to be a national delegate. Vetting to make sure they are Democrats or at least not Republicans or just plain agitators.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 07:26 PM

37. A county chair has influence but whomever gets the most votes gets in.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:10 PM

14. Thanks

You are spot on.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:23 PM

15. First time poster

Never posted before but long time follower and reader of DU. Felt a bit intimidated. I was and still am a Bernie supporter. Stood outside in that Arizona sun in the mismanaged primaries to cast my vote for him. Always loved him. But I have said and did say to my wife, if Hillary gets the nomination, I have no problems voting for her, especially now with Trump. I don't agree with her on alot of things, but I agree with her more than I disagree. I definitely agree with her more than Trump. It upsets me about the outbursts, it also makes me scared as I'm a natural worrier. People around me are keeping me sane when it comes to whats going on at the DNC, and people here are saying it's a handful. This is about beating Trump and there was always a huge difference between both of them.

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Response to bhusar (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:55 PM

18. Welcome!

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Response to bhusar (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:56 PM

19. Welcome to DU!

So glad you're here.

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Response to bhusar (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:09 PM

21. Welcome to DU, bhusar! Glad you decided to join in. This campaign will have a lot of us worrying

and DU will be a good place for supporting each other.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #21)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:56 PM

27. Thank you.

Glad to be here

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:54 PM

17. This election reminds me of Alien vs. Predator. Whoever wins, we lose.

But I'm voting for Hillary because we cannot allow Trump to win at any cost. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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Response to Rocknrule (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 04:59 PM

20. If you feel strongly about issues that it is incumbent upon all of us to stay engaged.

Hold our elected reps feet to the fire. Run for office. But for heaven sakes don't stop caring and believing.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:35 PM

24. Yes!

Hello! Thanks for the comment, as this is exactly how I feel. I was torn between Bernie and Hillary but chose the latter and have not regretted my choice. We can take comfort in the fact that, according to polls, 85% of Bernie supporters plan to vote for Hillary. The small, loud minority that is protesting at the DNC are outliers who probably followed Bernie to the Democratic Party and have no plans to vote for Hillary.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:45 PM

26. If they have been watching the convention the last 3 days and tonite.

They should be on board. If they aren't on board they never would be and really doubtful they were on board with anyone as Democratic nominee.

With the announcement that that there was nearly 5 million more viewers of the DNC Convention on day 2 I think that bodes well for us. That doesn't include those that watch the convention online, C-Span, or Amazon Fire TV and other similar modes.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 06:12 PM

29. I agree

The movement Sanders started will florish in a forward direction, as the true goal is getting progressive policies implemented. The primaries were very rough, but can be seen as a political boot camp for some of the ones newer to politics.

I can see this movement getting involved down ticket, supporting progressive candidates--in my own area I support Pramila Jayapal, a strong Bernie supporter.
http://www.pramilaforcongress.com


This protesting is annoying and counter-productive. There is a lot of common ground to be found, and it's my belief the two camps of Democrats will find a way to do just that.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 06:20 PM

32. I posted this earlier today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512315908

Essentially, I agree. They are damaging what Bernie managed to accomplish.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2016, 07:00 PM

36. So true

I don't get the strategy.

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