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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:14 AM Jul 2016

I feel bad for people not caught up in the excitement of this historical nomination

and this amazing, optimistic, spirit-lifting, beautiful, diverse convention.

I really do.

I am not sure when it became the norm that in order to be considered a principled progressive one must always be in a state of cynicism and perpetual despondency, but i reject that brand of progressivism. I believe in grit and doing the most good and the least harm, and to me Hillary Clinton represents that.

I am so proud and happy to be part of the movement that gets our first highly qualified, competent, and incredibly empathetic female nominee.

And yes, it does matter that she is female. Allies are great, and both Bill and Obama have been great allies to women. However, actual representation will always matter, in terms of what policies get prioritized and what gets ignored.

I am so proud and excited to vote for her again.

PS: although, I will miss Obama sorely. He has been an amazing president.

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I feel bad for people not caught up in the excitement of this historical nomination (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 Jul 2016 #1
I'm about to meet some people for lunch who are total "debby downers" on this election Siwsan Jul 2016 #2
Just smile and nod. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #8
I pulled one person out of her apathetic fog and now she is saying she's voting for Hillary Siwsan Jul 2016 #27
k and r niyad Jul 2016 #3
when you've always been represented i think its harder to understand the importance of this moment La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #4
I think you are quite correct. niyad Jul 2016 #5
Very, very true. Brickbat Jul 2016 #7
I agree, LLP. brer cat Jul 2016 #9
I'm Chelsea's age and it still means a lot to me La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #11
Very true. nt brer cat Jul 2016 #12
I said almost the same thing, not as well, to my Republican relatives on Facebook katmondoo Jul 2016 #6
Agreed La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #10
Shrug... what is the big deal? whistler162 Jul 2016 #13
Heh. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2016 #15
.... La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #16
Nothing new! Haveadream Jul 2016 #47
Because that's the point, yeah shenmue Jul 2016 #53
You and me both. Iggo Jul 2016 #14
And a lot of people buy into the fake controversies La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #17
The controversies are real. The "Look at me!" non-stop outrage is tiresome. Iggo Jul 2016 #18
A lot of them are not real at all, like Benghazi or white water La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #19
Oh, that shit. Iggo Jul 2016 #21
... La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #22
I'm with you -- and She's With Us! Hekate Jul 2016 #20
Yes, she is! La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #23
When I see the look on women's faces at this Convention... yallerdawg Jul 2016 #24
... La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #25
I know. Just saw CNN. They are doing their level best to ignore the history that is being made!!! Laser102 Jul 2016 #26
Well, not yet... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #64
Part of History 8 years ago and part of it now! liberal N proud Jul 2016 #28
I'm actually surprised that it's even noticed. calimary Jul 2016 #29
I just can't get on board with "it matters that she's female." MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #30
lol. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #34
Apparently you missed where the person you replied to stated that they are a PoC. redgreenandblue Jul 2016 #63
Clinton is none of those people. She's a lifelong Democrat who has busted her ass for Demoratic PeaceNikki Jul 2016 #35
Apparently I just think differently than others.. MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #36
I truly don't give a shit about a candidate's race or gender. Frank Cannon Jul 2016 #39
+1 PasadenaTrudy Jul 2016 #40
Nobody EVER said you were required. But maybe you could/should stop trying to rain on everyone else PeaceNikki Jul 2016 #41
i dont care but i care enough to tell you that i dont care about something that is clearly La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #45
Um, this thread was exactly about me. The title is literally... MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #50
I'm a white 48 year old male awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #60
I know! ananda Jul 2016 #31
Beaming with pride - happy tears welling in my eyes all week PeaceNikki Jul 2016 #32
we live in amazing times, where we got to elect the first black man to be president La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #33
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #37
she did not run a dirty campaign. she more than anyone has earned this place. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #38
Not sure what was in the post you replied to, but accusing HRC of a dirty campaign are Trump memes. greatlaurel Jul 2016 #43
k&r Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #42
K & R! greatlaurel Jul 2016 #44
I'm not excited, but I'm pleased. Martin Eden Jul 2016 #46
I don't give them a single thought. Rex Jul 2016 #48
It has been outstanding! Haveadream Jul 2016 #49
K&R treestar Jul 2016 #51
They are on the wrong side of History once again itsrobert Jul 2016 #52
I am out and about right now yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #54
Any news on the ratings? RandiFan1290 Jul 2016 #59
kick for answers JI7 Jul 2016 #61
people are more likely to watch the convention of their own party JI7 Jul 2016 #62
That is true RandiFan1290 Jul 2016 #65
Looks like the Democrats had much higher ratings than Trump. Kingofalldems Jul 2016 #68
I may be unenthusiastic, but I do appreciate how important HRC's nomination is for women. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #55
+1000! AwakeAtLast Jul 2016 #56
I've been waiting over 70 years for this day. procon Jul 2016 #57
No need to feel bad for me. pangaia Jul 2016 #58
K&R betsuni Jul 2016 #66
I feel the same way, especially some of our best DUers... joshcryer Jul 2016 #67
I like Obama as a person,good man, but I feel he's been ok at best as President adigal Jul 2016 #69

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
2. I'm about to meet some people for lunch who are total "debby downers" on this election
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jul 2016

A bunch of us retirees from work meet every month, and last month I got an earful about how gawd awful the candidates for both parties are, and how they will either refrain from voting, or vote 3rd party. Touchy situation because I don't want to say anything that will put a big whammy on this get together. I reel in what I would normally say, by about 80%, but always reiterate that their plan is just a passive way of giving votes to Trump.

I'm kind of hoping that politics isn't raised, today.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
27. I pulled one person out of her apathetic fog and now she is saying she's voting for Hillary
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jul 2016

I ended up just walking away from a conversation with another who was so ignorant, loud and obnoxious, I remembered why we were never all that close, when we worked together. I knew she was just baiting me, and I have better ways to spend my energy.

niyad

(113,257 posts)
3. k and r
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:23 AM
Jul 2016

I will be watching HRC's acceptance speech tonight with friends, drinking fizzy stuff and celebrating that we lived long enough to see this.

going to skip the political meeting. the "progressive" men there simply do not get it.

brer cat

(24,559 posts)
9. I agree, LLP.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jul 2016

I also think it means more to those of us in Hillary's generation. We had the dreams and ambitions, but were told we were only going to college to catch a good husband; that if we "had" to work, we could only be secretaries, nurses or teachers*; who were denied starting opportunities because "we would have babies and quit"; who were passed over for promotions time and time again while less qualified males moved ahead.

*I mean absolutely no offense to those who chose those very important careers, but only to stress that we wanted additional choices.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
11. I'm Chelsea's age and it still means a lot to me
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jul 2016

People vastly overestimate how well women are represented in leadership, our numbers in elected political positions and in high level corporate positions are dismal.

katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
6. I said almost the same thing, not as well, to my Republican relatives on Facebook
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jul 2016

I feel sorry that they will never know another President in their lifetime with such grace, intelligence and caring as Obama. They have treated him with distain not realizing he is unique in our time and that one day they will regret not knowing him and not appreciating his many talents.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
13. Shrug... what is the big deal?
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jul 2016

There was two Adam's, 2 Johnson's, 2 Harrison's, 2 Roosevelt's, and two Bush's. So having someone with the same last name is nothing new or exciting!

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
17. And a lot of people buy into the fake controversies
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jul 2016

Ironically a lot of them think they are smarter than the rest of us, while falling prey to the right wing bull shit.

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
21. Oh, that shit.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jul 2016

That's republican bullshit and I stopped giving it any brain-space a looong time ago.

I'm talking about the Dem Primary All-Around Butthurt-a-thon. I'm sick of it all. They (the people who just can't let go of the primary fight) are missing a truly historic moment. It's sad.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
24. When I see the look on women's faces at this Convention...
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jul 2016

I can see this is something unique and special happening right before our eyes!

My wife and daughter have that look, too!

Laser102

(816 posts)
26. I know. Just saw CNN. They are doing their level best to ignore the history that is being made!!!
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jul 2016

They have talked about everything except the fact that we have just elected a woman to be our next President. Screw them. We know this is yuuuge!

Wounded Bear

(58,645 posts)
64. Well, not yet...
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:49 AM
Jul 2016

lot of work to be done between now and November. Thankfully, the Repubs have served up a shit burger to oppose us, so it should happen. But yeah, lot of work yet.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
28. Part of History 8 years ago and part of it now!
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jul 2016

I recall what it felt like on election night to stand there and say we just elected a black man to the office of President. How far we have come.

Now we are going to repeat that with the first woman.

Wait for it...

calimary

(81,210 posts)
29. I'm actually surprised that it's even noticed.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jul 2016

Only this week has it started to come up, and frequently now, about just how historic this is.

For me, it's been pretty much EVERYTHING. Throughout the campaign. It's been EVERYTHING to me. Well, along with the many other reasons why I have loved, admired, and supported Hillary Clinton ever since I first learned about her in 1992. For me, she's been a shining star and an inspiration for about a quarter-century.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
30. I just can't get on board with "it matters that she's female."
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jul 2016

I don't want Ann Coulter as President.

I don't want Dana Perino as President.

I don't want Elizabeth Dole as President.

I don't want Melania Trump as President.

I don't want Nikki Haley as President.

None of these people are going to bring progressive ideals for females simply because they are female. I want a PROGRESSIVE PERSON as President, and if that Progressive happens to have a vagina (or identifies as female, either works for me), then so be it.

Are we literally going to be forever using lines like "only the second woman to hold this position" or "only the 10th African-American to accomplish this feat," or will we someday just recognize these folks as people, not a color or a gender?

The more we obsess about race and gender and lose our minds whenever a female or person of color accomplishes something (which is insulting, frankly, at least to this person of color), the more the world will obsess about race and gender.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
63. Apparently you missed where the person you replied to stated that they are a PoC.
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:15 AM
Jul 2016

It is clear that here on DU the perspectives of people of color matter only when they are in line with a certain "official narrative".

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
35. Clinton is none of those people. She's a lifelong Democrat who has busted her ass for Demoratic
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jul 2016

ideals her entire adult life.

This is the first. Your need to dismiss it & accuse people who are damn well excited and proud of it of being "obsessed" is dumb.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
36. Apparently I just think differently than others..
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jul 2016

I wasn't proud President Obama was elected because he had the same color skin as me; I was proud he was elected because he was a great candidate and has been a great President.

I wasn't proud that Gabby Douglas won the Olympic gold medal because she has the same skin color as me; I'm proud she won because she represented the United States of America.

I guess heritage/demographics are just more important to some people than others. And it's a little insulting for so many on DU to insinuate that as an African-American I'm required to be "excited" anytime a person of color accomplishes anything. Not every person of color sits all day and thinks about their skin color (at least this one doesn't).

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
39. I truly don't give a shit about a candidate's race or gender.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jul 2016

Count me among those that just want the most competent and informed person we have available to hold the office.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
41. Nobody EVER said you were required. But maybe you could/should stop trying to rain on everyone else
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jul 2016

's parade. This thread wasn't about you and you decided to make it about you.

You could have shrugged your shoulders and moved along.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
45. i dont care but i care enough to tell you that i dont care about something that is clearly
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jul 2016

meaningful to you.

I really don't get that attitude.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
50. Um, this thread was exactly about me. The title is literally...
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jul 2016

"I feel bad for people not caught up in the excitement of this historical nomination."

Are you perhaps replying on the wrong thread?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
60. I'm a white 48 year old male
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:52 PM
Jul 2016

who felt a whole lot of pride when I walked in to vote in 2008. My vote for Obama didn't affect the outcome (live in Texas), but the fact that I had the chance to vote for a black man for president made me (at least for a while) proud of my country. I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime. Maybe I'm just strange.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
31. I know!
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jul 2016

It really is phenomenal!

I have been loving this convention!

I look forward to hearing from Joaquin Castro, Sherrod Brown,
and of course the first woman president of the United States,
Hillary Clinton!

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
33. we live in amazing times, where we got to elect the first black man to be president
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jul 2016

followed by the first woman. Both on very progressive party platforms.

how can one not be excited about this?

Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Original post)

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
38. she did not run a dirty campaign. she more than anyone has earned this place.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jul 2016

please don't belittle that.

the DNC should have stayed neutral, but she did not control the DNC. She won because Democrats liked her more to the tune of 4 million votes.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
43. Not sure what was in the post you replied to, but accusing HRC of a dirty campaign are Trump memes.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jul 2016

HRC ran a great campaign and refrained from trashing BS throughout the campaign even though BS was not a Democratic candidate and has already stated he is now an independent, again. Of course, the BS supporters were upset when the truth was pointed out about the BS talking points. As Harry Truman said, "“I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell.”. That is true for the BS rabid supporters as well as the GOP.

The very thing that disproves the complaints about the HRC campaign is that BS won a lot of the caucuses, but HRC won easily due to the primaries where people actually got to vote in a real voting booth. Caucauses are just too easily manipulated by a few people.

There will be constant vicious attacks on the Democratic ticket this year, from the top of the ticket down to local races. The only way the Good Old Putin party can win is to push lies about the Democratic Party candidates, and suppress voting by discouraging people from voting with "legal" barriers and convincing regular people their votes won't matter. The trashing of Democratic Party candidates with the lies about being corporate shills and being neocons are really right wing tactics to drive down voter turnout.

To quote President Obama. "Don't Boo, Vote!"

Thank you for you thoughtful response to whatever that nasty post was.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
46. I'm not excited, but I'm pleased.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jul 2016

I've learned not to get too caught up in professionally crafted political events, but I am very pleased with the content and delivery of the speeches. They said what needed to be said, not only in showing Trump for the unqualified demagogue that he is but also in making the case that Hillary Clinton has devoted her entire adult life to making positive change.
What a contrast withy the RNC!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
48. I don't give them a single thought.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jul 2016

I did at one time, but I just don't have time to hold their hands anymore. Too many life changing events taking place right now, we are watching a few of them during this generation.

Obama is the best POTUS of my lifetime. I love Carter and I still love Big Dog. Obama takes the cake imo, the best of the best.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
49. It has been outstanding!
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jul 2016

What a contrast to the GOP. Incredibly proud to be a Democrat and truly beginning to feel there is a future for so many who have been marginalized. It is beautiful and we are all indebted to the great Dems who have been paving the way!












 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
54. I am out and about right now
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jul 2016

Tonight is grocery shopping and errand day. Many don't have the luxury to relax and watch tv all night. Hopefully they will DVR it.

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
59. Any news on the ratings?
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jul 2016

You were pretty excited by the RNC numbers and then went quiet.

Any new numbers to report?


pangaia

(24,324 posts)
58. No need to feel bad for me.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jul 2016

Different people have different interests and priorities.

For example, while I do have an interest in politics, and am very glad that the Democratic Party is about to nominate the first woman by a major party for president,(it's about time!) I also have other interests that are, in fact, more important to me.

For example, I am returning from Tokyo after hearing a stunning concert, and was fortunate and honored to have a late dinner with one of the world's great conductors and one of the world's great violinists.

I was in Seoul in April to hear the same violinist and also a concert by a great pianist, and the Seoul Philharmonic as well, in which I have several friends.

I have played all of the Mahler symphonies, but one,. etc etc...Not important to most, but this is where I can make my biggest contribution to the world, and what brings me the greatest joy in return.

I will be sailing in the Lofoton Islands in Northern Norway in a couple weeks on a 37' boat with 5 other people..... never even been on a sail boat before. !! :&gt

So, I am plenty excited about a lot of things. Don't worry about me.. Please DO enjoy the moment that IS so very important you. You deserve it.


Oh....
I do not agree that it is "....the norm that in order to be considered a principled progressive one must always be in a state of cynicism and perpetual despondency, ..."

I sure am not like that. And I do not know that any of my progressive friends feel that way.

Enjoy the moment..


joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
67. I feel the same way, especially some of our best DUers...
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 06:37 AM
Jul 2016

...just gone and not able to enjoy it. It's like the Dark Side really exists.

And mind you I am not the best person either. I can slog it. But I'm enjoying the fuck out of this election.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
69. I like Obama as a person,good man, but I feel he's been ok at best as President
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jul 2016

Let's look at one statistic -just one.

1/4 of Ameircan kids live in poverty. How is that possible? Did he ever mention it? Did any Dems mention that this week? Where are those concerned about this? Are you concerned? I am. This makes me sick, that in the "greatest" country in the world, we have 1/4 of American kids living in poverty. And no one is talking about it. Just chanting, "USA, USA!!!"

It's disgusting.

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