At Jack's place you can call anyone the C-word and the N-word---as long as they are not a member.

[trumad]

[rjsquirrel]

1. You know I have to think

those folks thrive on negative attention from DU.

They set that site up to goad their "frenemies" here.

You're taking the bait. And giving them oxygen. Let them curse and moan in the darkness. There are all of about 20 regular participants there.

[still_one]

56. you make a good point. I believe this topic will become less and less, as more folks here will

start discussing and debating issues relating to the election, and domestic and world events

[Happyhippychick]

2. In other words it's perfectly fine to debase women

But don't call me a racist!

What a disgusting cesspool, good riddance.

[hobbit709]

3. So how exactly does one post there if they are not a member?

[emulatorloo]

51. Did Trumad say non-members can post? No.

Reread the post he cites. JPR poster says you can call someone a cunt, but you can't call a JPR member a cunt. Hope that helps.

[hobbit709]

53. It certainly is implied by the OP if you use certain words.

[emulatorloo]

55. Interesting spin

Of the JPR moderator's post. You seem to be mixing up Trumad with the JPR's mod.

Take care and have a great day!

[stonecutter357]

4. Is that a RWNJ websit are just SJW's?

[shenmue]

22. What?

[Lancero]

26. Lemme try translating that...

kk, here we go.

Is that a RWNJ website or are you just a SJW's?

Assuming my translation is correct, SC is wondering why Trumad is getting offended over people using these words.

I suppose he could have intended SJW to be referring to JPR, but given their stance on some words that wouldn't really fit.

[NCTraveler]

5. DU is the first 90% of a cold beer on a hot summer day.

JPR is that last warm mouthful that takes a little effort to get down.

Seriously. This place is pretty welcoming and the rules allow for a lot of flexibility. That place is the backwash of DU. Considering how big of a tent we are here that alone says a lot.

[PJMcK]

28. Great analogy

They are the backwash at the end of a cold one! Terrific observation, NCTraveler.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. No censorship for those free thinkers!

[AntiBank]

7. these constant JPR posts from you are tiresome

move on to more important things

[trumad]

8. It's my second one....

Let me give you some tools to help your tired mind.

Put me on ignore and you won't see me.

Trash thread so you won't see it

Don't click on the thread.

Pretty fucking easy shit there.

[hobbit709]

9. But then we wouldn't see your scintillating metabolic wastes stirring.

[trumad]

11. Hey if that's your thing.

[stonecutter357]

10. +1000

[AntiBank]

70. I shouldn't have put the "from you" in. I mean all of them.

You just happened to be one who did back to back. I also don't put people on ignore. It isn't my style.

[840high]

62. +a zillion

[snooper2]

63. That would be adding a fictitious number

[morningfog]

12. This obsession with a splinter site here makes du suck.

Leave the trash there.

[snooper2]

25. You don't enjoy the mocking of idiots?

[auntpurl]

29. As a Hillary supporter, I tend to agree.

The monster 1000+ post thread was really enough. We got all our residual anger about the primaries out (against former DUers who turned out to be Trump trolls or otherwise non-Democrats) and now it's time to move on. They are a tiny fringe site and the more attention we pay them, the more they will grow and the more audience their hateful rhetoric will have.

It's time to move on.

I think that's the first time I've ever agreed with you.

[bemildred]

13. They seem to be getting more trafffic.

I mean I haven't been there in ages and have never posted there, but the last time I responded to an invitation and visited, they were a lot less busy.

[morningfog]

14. It's not surprising since a handful of DUers are obsessed and post links

daily.

[bemildred]

15. It's surprising to me.

I see a lot of posters there, it used to be a lot smaller crew. I mean I'm obsessed and post things daily here, generally that seems to be considered a good thing, to have such posters, as long as they aren't one trick ponies who always post about the same thing.

You will get pegged as a shill if you do that anyway.

If they are obsessed with DU, that is a mistake, a defect, and I recommend that we not copy it by obsessing about them or any other sites either.

[Chathamization]

21. Indeed. It seems some people are upset that they can't have the same kind of disruptive shouting

matches that used to suck up so much air here, so they're now posting links from other sites hoping to continue them.

[JTFrog]

32. Or people are upset that those people still have posting privileges here.

Upset that these folks broadcast their intent to disrupt DU. Upset that these folks are still free to shower us with their special brand of "criticism". Upset that these people still sit on juries here. Upset that long time trolls have tried to trash, bash and undermine our candidates while off in the distance they are pulling for Trump and doing their best to depress turnout for Clinton.

I would prefer we not send traffic their way, but I do appreciate the eye opening some of these threads have provided.

[Chathamization]

40. Right, people are using it as a way to complain about posters here while pretending they aren't

Some people think they've found a clever way to violate the rules without being noticed. Maybe they have, but I think most people see through it.

[arcane1]

42. That's nothing new. Hell, one can admit to alert-stalking and still serve on MIRT! n/t

[stevenleser]

80. Assuming that's true what has one to do with the other

MIRT just bans new trolls.

That has nothing to do with alert stalking.

[bonemachine]

54. loyalty oaths and echo chambering isn't good enough?

Now we should ban people for things they post places other than DU too?

Really?

[workinclasszero]

17. I bet they get a lot of traffic today if Bernie endorses Hillary as expected

I can't wait to see the denizens of that slimepit throw Bernie Sanders straightaway under the same bus they threw Senator Warren and every other democrat that didn't march in mind numbing lockstep with them.

Should be a hell of a meltdown!

[bemildred]

20. You have strange tastes. nt

[Lancero]

27. Some members here have a odd desire to shunt traffic to that site.

Sure, they say they don't like that website but if that was the case they'd stop posting about it.

[bemildred]

30. I can see that, lots of former DU posters there, too.

One suspects that some posters here cling to former disputes with former opponents there.

Way to build the site guys. I've been wondering why this place is so dead, but I thought it was just the Summer holidays etc. Now I see that our purists have been actively driving people away. Congrats, you "won".

[Lancero]

33. They drove a lot of em away, just like they wanted, yet they can't leave em alone.

Honestly, they're acting like the ex-partner who says they're better off yet still can't fully 'let go' of the past.

[bemildred]

34. I think some people like to argue. A lot. Even with people who clearly are not listening. nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

49. Some act like sore winners.

[Lancero]

59. Didn't put much stock in those claims at first, but seeing this site the past couple weeks...

...the claims about her supporters being sore winners is right on the mark.

Seriously. They're saltier than a generic storebrand can of spagetti-os, and that's some of the saltiest crap I've ever had the displeasure of tasting.

[Alex4Martinez]

16. You're making DU suck, Trumad.

And you're sending them more traffic.

If you're trying to elect more Democrats, this seems a strange way of going about it.

[bemildred]

18. +1. nt

[shenmue]

23. Awww

[trumad]

39. Gee Alex---

Been here a whole month and already lecturing.

[HarmonyRockets]

82. Are you not sending them more traffic by

kicking a thread (in a certain group on this forum) that is advertising that site and encouraging people to go over?

[TheManInTheMac]

19. So what?

[closeupready]

24. Too much time on your hands.

[G_j]

31. Really?

is this what GD has become?

[arcane1]

46. For some, it was never about Hillary or Bernie, or even about politics in general n/t

[emulatorloo]

58. Agreed, most evidenced by those who are now attacking Senator Sanders on JPR

Clear that those posters were supporting a fantasy Bernie, and don't give a shit about Bernie's positions. Otherwise they wouldn't be throwing Bernie under the bus. Some of them argue voting for Trump, and that is totally against everything Senator Sanders has ever stood for.

I do agree, time for DU to let go.

[cyberswede]

60. I agree with this

...and am confounded by it. Did people actually support Sanders' positions, or did they just like that he was sticking it to the establishment candidate? I see no possible way people who actually support Sanders' positions could ever support Trump.

[Rex]

73. The people supporting Trump were never Democratic.

Sanders supporters would never switch their vote to Trump, that would defeat the purpose of a Sanders run for POTUS imo.

[Marr]

35. This is incredibly childish.

I had to look up this 'jpr', but now that I have, it seems like it's basically just filled with former DUers, who were either banned from DU or driven off via harassment from Hillary supporters who refuse to let go of primary season vitriol. I remember that rather gross 'X more days' garbage-- well, they're gone. Now grow up.

[Kingofalldems]

36. Plenty of current DU members there.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

50. There sure are.

[trumad]

38. There it is again---the old grow up meme.

No comments on the overt racism, misogynist bull shit..., etc.. but I gotta grow up.

uh huh

[Marr]

47. Maybe it isn't a 'meme', but just a suggestion you keep inspiring.

Have you considered that?

[840high]

64. ...!100++++

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

52. Some people see things clearer than others, and some

have axes to grind.

Let it go. Was early DU really that much different?

Perhaps things will change at JPR in time.

[Blue_Tires]

37. At this point I'd be happy if DU didn't give them the attention they crave

[FSogol]

57. +1 n/t

[arcane1]

41. You sure do talk about that place a lot n/t

[trumad]

43. Just my 2nd thread...

I'm disappointed that many of our former members signed up there and allow this type of shit to go on.

[arcane1]

45. Your concern is noted n/t

[Nevernose]

44. It's not all bad there (repost from another thread)

1. Lots of awesome DUers went there.

2. As long as the subject isn't a Clinton, there is some intelligent conversation going on. Of course, when the subject IS a Clinton, every bit of paranoia, propaganda, and hyperbole possible fills the screen. I'm probably never going to be a giant Hillary fan, but TRUMP? Are they fucking serious? That's not crazy, that's just dumb.

3. It's not completely overrun with racist trolls, which is what DU has felt like lately. I won't name names -- I try not to break the rules -- but goddamn if the thinly-veiled right wingers aren't driving me nuts. I should probably just put them on ignore for my psychological health.

[G_j]

48. I also think

the RW views that have infiltrated here are more of a concern to DU than what is said on another site.

[emulatorloo]

67. Agreed about JPR. Some very good posters. Disagree that DU is overrun by racist right-wing trolls

But if I see a right-wing racist troll here I will push back.

[aikoaiko]

61. Antagonizing them will not serve us well.

I don't expect you to care, but I had to say it anyway.

[emulatorloo]

66. Can you expand on your thoughts? Are you expecting doxxing? Death threats?

They have been expressing hostility about DU for a very long while.

Do you expect them to escalate and do something illegal? Threatening Skinner with physical violence?

I don't beleive that, so I am thinking you have something different in mind. Would appreciate you spelling it out.

I agree DU should move on.

[closeupready]

69. An old proverb holds, speak only with good purpose.

I suspect aiko's post was simply paraphrasing that idea. In a nation swept by 'Pokémon Go!' craze, it's not likely classical ideas will ever take hold.

[aikoaiko]

71. I replied this way elsewhere so I'll repeat.

We may differ from JPR on party labels/loyalties and the personalities we endorse, but we mostly want the same things.

Painting them as freepers, as some have, is a bad move.

Many of them were or still are us.

And in general, board wars are wretched.

[cyberswede]

72. +1

[emulatorloo]

79. Agreed.

There are solid progressive posters there. There are a handfull of posters who praise republicans and seem not to care about progressive causes, but that's a problem for members their to address and resolve (I.E. Not for DU'ers)

[JaneyVee]

65. AWFUL

[yuiyoshida]

68. This is really tiresome

its like standing on the river side shaking your fist at cars driving by across the river. They are too busy driving, and don't care what's going on across the river where you are standing, they just want to be on their way. AS for me, I don't mind crossing the river and mingling with the crowds over there, its always interesting what happens in the town square.

[arcane1]

78. You didn't get the memo? We have to agree 100% with every post made over there, for some reason.

[Rex]

74. Dammit trumad how many times are you going to post about that site!?

[nationalize the fed]

75. Doesn't anyone watch VEEP on HBO?

https://twitter.com/officialjld/status/737074857540624385

Funniest episode of the season.

HBO’s “Veep” Breaks a Huge Language Taboo, Using the “C” Word For Real

Tonight’s episode of “Veep” is officially called “C—gate.” Apparently the word is used quite liberally in the episode.

Outside of the N word, I can’t think of anything other than the C word which is completely verboten everywhere. Even the f- word finds its way into some mainstream things, and shit so do some others.

But HBO and JDL are going for it. I’ll watch at 10:30 and we’ll see how they do this. “Veep” is the best comedy on TV outside of “Fox and Friends.” And the latter is unintentionally a hoot...
http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/05/29/hbos-veep-breaks-a-huge-language-taboo-using-the-c-word-for-real

[DisgustipatedinCA]

76. I like JPR. There are some really good people there, and some good discussion.

[longship]

77. First one has to define "member".

Just like the candidate forums here banned so-called non-members.

Thankfully, that is all now gone and we can unite.

And Bernie and Hillary are going to go on the road!

Drumpf is going to be steamrolled!

[madinmaryland]

81. Meta, Dude. Just as talking about limpballs family would be really fucking annoying...

As in who fucking cares.

Give it a fucking rest.

BTW, why did cboy/upton help get four Red Sox as starters in the All Star Game tonight.