LOL---Cali battling the pinheads at Jackpine is a sight to behold.

[trumad]

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Not sure if you know---but it appears that Cali left us and took up residence at Jackpines hole in the wall---you know..the hole that Jerry hides in when chased by Tom.

Cali and I go way back as protagonists--- with her getting the best of me more times than not---Lady has energy to spare and I'd just run off instead of engage. She can wear you out.

She's left a few times in the past but always returned. I always made sure to welcome her back hoping that she knew that although I disagreed with her---A LOT!--- that I respected her passion and resolve.

With that said---she's sullied herself just a bit by joining forces with ---well honestly I don't quite know how to describe that gang over there.....How about just bitter fucking losers?--- and she's getting a serious dose of what it's like to engage said bitter fucking losers.

Here she is trying her damnedest to be pragmatic and as you can see---it's not working out to well.

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/i-dont-want-my-senator-to-play-the-tethered-goat/

Third-Way trumad

Oh fuck that stupid Third-Way shit!

trumad

[JoePhilly]

1. That place is the fringe-i-est of the fringe-i-est !

[Alex4Martinez]

41. Protip:

[bravenak]

76. Tiny minds resort to the words of other to make their points

[jonno99]

152. "Tiny minds resort to the words of other".

Why is this bad? To me that sounds like discussing ideas.

Isn't that a good thing?

[JoePhilly]

120. Here's an idea ...

... given that JPR is filled with crackpots, it should either be (a) avoided, or (b) studied by licensed professionals from the fields of sociology and psychology seeking approaches for dealing with severe mental illness.

[NCTraveler]

123. c) Members there should be put on the no fly list.

[JoePhilly]

124. Bwahahahahaha!!

[awoke_in_2003]

150. I joined in the first week

But haven't been there since, except when links of the lunacy are posted here.

[NCTraveler]

151. I was being very lighthearted.

There are a couple of members there I like. Very few things in life are absolute.

[awoke_in_2003]

156. True

Sadly, I saw a post over there from someone I thought was an alright person.

[annavictorious]

2. I guess some are readying the reasoning for the "sellout"

that's coming tomorrow.

"Rationalization
constructing a seemingly good or logical reason, as an attempt to justify the act after the fact, for oneself or others"

[bluedye33139]

3. Hillary supporters are "sore winners," I was once told

"But at least she isn't secretly 'winning' by actually losing," I snidely answered. And that, I would like to say, was the last time I was ever unpleasant, ever.

[Hortensis]

4. There are "sights" and "sights." Here's another DUer,

a long-time member, but this was posted outside DU for obvious reasons.

"Putin is saying that Hillary plans to declare war on Russia, and Obama, helpful as always, just sent 4000 troops to Poland. Put them in harm’s way, so they can be more provocative.

Vladimir Putin is a very canny, ethical man. His bio is interesting on so many levels. He really cares about his people and his nation. Can we make the same claim about ours?

He’s saving his blackmail for (1) if it becomes necessary (2) if it will make a significant difference. I suspect he’s already diverted some of Obama’s worst ideas…perhaps by reason, perhaps by blackmail….I don’t care why or how, but I am grateful that the Syrian adventure was scaled back and allowed to succeed against terrorism, not against a legally elected Syrian president. Too bad Ukraine didn’t get the same courtesy. That little fuckup told Putin all he needed to know about Hillary and Obama…and guided his policy since.

Have to say admiration of a "legally elected" member of the genocidal crime family that took control of Syria, and of course "ethical" Putin (!) saving us all from Obama's bellicose incompetence, almost makes Cali look (insert evaluation) by comparison, though she has not weighed in on this thread. Also makes me wish I'd majored in some political sociology discipline.

[mcar]

7. Putin is an ethical man!!??

Wait, let me guess who posted that!

[Hortensis]

10. Don't miss "caring."

If you make a correct informed guess about the right ONE in that group, you get a big gold star on your forehead. Or a free delousing.

[mcar]

11. LOL

[greatauntoftriplets]

18. He cares about his people, as long as they're not LGBTQ.

I guess it's good that my irony meter broke a few weeks ago, because that would send it absolutely berserk.

[Agschmid]

29. Yup.

[LuvLoogie]

106. Putin's a flippin' wierdo. He's like those hammer murderers, but with a little more cooth. Maybe.

[arely staircase]

26. OMG. Does the Russian government know their paid troll

is in an echo chamber of like ten participants and maybe as many lurkers?

[uhnope]

149. could be! the revelations of paid Russian troll whistleblowers have shown us that

that the Russian gov is not only controlling the media there, but then paid trolls are writing all the comments (with fake debate pro and con) in the same media. It's truly Orwellian. The only ones posting on many news articles in Russia are paid trolls, pretending to argue. It's bizarre.

[Downtown Hound]

56. Putin cares so much about his people

That's why he's willing to ruin his nation's economy just so he can have Crimea back. Putin ain't missing any meals from this, but his people sure are.

[Hortensis]

63. Putin cares so much he's relieved his people

of many of the stresses of decision-making and is determined to eventually produce a completely stress-free populace.

[Hekate]

145. Ahhhhh, so that's it

[Hekate]

146. Gobsmacked I am

Could you please pm me with a clue? I'll give you extra butter for your popcorn.

[mcar]

5. I have no words

[The Second Stone]

6. Well, at least one of them isn't a troll, agitator or right wing

sock puppet trying to stir things up. I looked, and it appeared to me that they were all yanking each other's chain without breaking character.

[backscatter712]

20. I think that's where the Bernie campaign's at.

Online, it's mostly Drumpfucks trolling/sockpuppeting.

[The Second Stone]

25. I think Sanders had and still has a lot of genuine people who like him

However I also think that much of the support he has on online places such as the aforementioned might be paid agitators and trolls from the political right, posting with the intent to egg these people on and further smear plain old liberals and progressives.

[Hortensis]

42. Possibly for the last. We can be sure the 80+%

of Bernie supporters who have shifted or are shifting to back HRC do still like him, and we should respect that and them. They are us.

The others are not us, as they make clear proudly so.

[The Second Stone]

43. I like Sanders as a human being. He's a good guy

Stubborn and difficult, but that can be worked with. I disagree with the socialism thing, but that doesn't mean we can't find common ground and work on many things.

[Human101948]

49. What socialism thing do you disagree with?

As far as I can discern, everything progressive is about socialism. For instance, Social Security, Medicare, public education, national parks, and much more. Why do you dislike those things?

[The Second Stone]

55. Those programs could be described as socialist, or just government

functions.

My definition of socialism is the one that can be found in the dictionary. Just about every dictionary I ever looked at. And my political science education, in which I have a bachelor's degree.

Socialism is government control control of production. (Communism is government ownership of production.) I think the default on production should be privately owned, with government regulation. That makes me a liberal, not a socialist.

You give examples of what could be socialism. How about a definition?

[Scootaloo]

79. I suggest against learning political theory from a dictionary.

That's kind of like learning how to be a parent by seeing some Gerber commercials.

[The Second Stone]

89. Its the same definition I learned from actual socialists when I went

to UCLA.

I noticed in your criticism, that you declined my request for a definition from thread participants. Is there a reason you decline?

[Scootaloo]

95. Because I don't have time to educate you in socialist theory.

It's kind of a large subject and you're not paying me enough for my time.

[The Second Stone]

98. In other words, you don't know

I know very well what socialism is, because I have studied the matter over 35 years. It's control of production by the government.

[Scootaloo]

99. No other words. I told you why.

if you have spent three decades "studying the matter" and all you know is a dictionary definition, I would suggest seeking a refund.

[The Second Stone]

101. Socialism is the government control of production by definition

and as a feature, it does not respect the ownership of private business when it gets in the way of that production.

[Hortensis]

111. How unromantic of you. Socialism is a dream of

a better, prosperous world, where all common men walk tall and confident, none ever worries about sliding into poverty, the hated "elites" are no longer, and corruption is easily defeated. I'm kind of surprised you haven't learned that in 35 years. Sure you're reading the right material?

[chknltl]

154. My personal definition of American socialism.

No, not a dictionary definition nor is it likely one taught at university but this definition so far has shut down all argument I've had from supporters of the Republican party:

"What part of a government of by and for us..... where we the citizenry are the final arbitor in any and all matters that concern us.... isn't socialism?"

[The Second Stone]

160. That's clever, but a dodge

and I want something more useful and less smarty pants. Something that will tell me the nature of its character.

(I admire a good dodge, but what you've got there is a fine piece of sophistry without any content.)

[former9thward]

64. None of those things are socialist. None.

[Human101948]

75. You are mistaken ...

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

Excerpt--
2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

-more-

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

[former9thward]

91. Sorry, a daily kos article doesn't get to define socialism.

You may have your own private definition of socialism but that is all it is.

2) Highways are not socialism. Romans built highways all over Europe. Didn't know they were socialists.

3) Public Libraries. Libraries have been around in mass for hundreds of years and some go back thousands such as the Library at Alexandria.

4) Police have been around for 200 years in the U.S. Some of the forces came into being to fight radicals in the 1870s and 1880s. No, not socialist.

You seem to confuse taxes with socialism. Every government has used some form of taxes for thousands of years.

[Human101948]

112. Forbes magazine, the 'Captialist Tool,' disagrees with you...

Socialism means government ownership of the means of production, and governments necessarily own the land on which roads are constructed. Therefore, governments are always going to be involved in the provision of roads; the only question is what role the government should play.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timothylee/2012/05/24/were-all-infrastructure-socialists/#15aec257cd91

You are probably confusing socialism with communism which is not uncommon due to the incessant propaganda conflating the two.

[Hortensis]

113. Former, our PUBLIC works belong to the people

of the states and nation. I'm not sure, but the library in Alexandria almost certainly belonged to King Ptolemy and his descendants. And so on. I think you may be confusing taxation of the people with ownership of, by, and for the people.

[former9thward]

153. No the people do not own it.

The state does. They determine who goes there and who does not. A very bizarre definition of socialism at best. Look at any dictionary and see if any support you.

[Human101948]

114. Perhaps this definition helps...

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[12] Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

[Hortensis]

58. Nice to hear, Hillary. We're all rooting for you.

[awoke_in_2003]

61. Thank you

I was a BS supportter, still like him, and will be voting gor HRC in November.

[Hortensis]

140. Just saw CNN person claiming Trump had

unified the GOP far more than the Democrats are so far. Unbelievable. His nose should have broken off from growing too long.

We're already far more unified and will be more so. One major pollster estimates our eventual defection rate to be in the typical 10% range he said both parties tend to have every 4 years. The GOP no one is sure about.

[LiberalFighter]

128. I agree 99.9%. There are some misguided ones. The rest are as you say.

[backscatter712]

67. I suppose it depends on the web site.

JPR has a bunch of genuine progressives there, and I suspect a few right-wing ratfuckers.

OTOH, the r/SandersForPresident subreddit has pretty much been taken over by denizens of r/The_Donald - one of the top stories there yesterday was from Breitbart. Breitbart. With a fairly obvious upvote brigade, courtesy of r/The_Donald. I think it's pretty obvious what happened there. All the reasonable people have fled.

[Gothmog]

8. I almost feel sorry for Cali

Some of the JPR posters are real nut cases

[awoke_in_2003]

62. She is tough

I know she can handle herself

[BumRushDaShow]

9. And then you have this

If I were doing the lesser of two evils bullshit I would vote for Trump

I support everything Sanders stands for.

If he decides to make a third party run I’ll vote for him. If he doesn’t run I’ll have to do something else.

However, if he endorses Clinton I still won’t vote for her. I have despised the Clintons for a quarter of a century, way before I ever heard of Bernie Sanders.

I will not vote for any senatorial candidate who endorses her.

And I will vote for my crappy republican congress critter because I know he will be a reliable vote to impeach her in the unfortunate event she is elected.

I mean really?

[Agschmid]

31. Really.

[redStateBlueHeart]

34. This person is a progressive?

Please tell me they don't actually believe that.

[AgadorSparticus]

110. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Smh....

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

46. "I have despised the Clintons for a quarter of a century, way before I ever heard of Bernie Sanders"

That's what being a Rush Limbaugh fan, and a right-wing conservative will do for ya.

Would love to know which "Duer" that is. I bet I won't be surprised.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. The poster

is using their DU name. You can go to the link and find the post.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

51. Ah hah

Recognize the name, though can't say anything they've ever said has stuck with me.

Oh well, fuck them. Yeah, I said it. FUCK them.

[dlwickham]

65. it's bizarro world over there

just a step below FR but not by much

[unc70]

12. Cali is having a discussion not possible at DU

It is a spirited discussion many at DU seem to miss. Even so, I believe you mischaracterize the majority of the posts at the linked thread. Several in the minority there have been specifically linked in this thread, but over all, there isn't the spectacle you imply.

[Squinch]

32. We've all seen it by now. We believe our lyin' eyes. It's a zoo.

[Hekate]

147. Heh. We've all seen what a spirited discussion looks like at the Zoo.

[Downtown Hound]

59. I voted for Bernie

Supported him from the get go, and I got banned from the Bernie Sanders group for daring to point out that Hillary was beating Trump is the polls and that their memo of Bernie or Bust really just wasn't accurate. They were trying to push the idea that Clinton had no chance against Trump but Bernie does. I think we've all seen that's flat out horseshit based on recent polling.

So yes, I will agree with you that many Bernie supporters did not tolerate discussion. Not even a little bit. They have developed a cult like system of devoutness with this man that I find more than a little troubling. At least Hillary supporters acknowledge her flaws. But Bernie can do no wrong and neither can they in supporting him.

[Kentonio]

117. Erm..

At least Hillary supporters acknowledge her flaws.

Seriously?

During the primary both sides had significant numbers of supporters who jumped off the handle at the slightest suggestion of a flaw in their candidate.

[unc70]

82. They were no less tolerant than the Hillary supporters

Almost all the worst of the Hillary supporters are still at DU, in spite of 10-15 hides and repeated "timeouts". The core 30-40 core offenders were and still are every bit as obnoxious as the similar number of Sanders supporters. With some on the Sanders side now gone from DU, it is really obvious who remains. While there were originally many more Sanders supporters in total, the number of problem DUers was split fairly evenly in actual numbers. Those who support Clinton are now mostly left to argue with each other.

[Squinch]

135. Well, yes. It really is obvious who remains: those who are supporting the Democratic candidate.

Those who don't exclusively post slurs on Democrats.

Those who don't plan to vote for Trump.

[zazen]

87. thank you, fellow Tarheel--I'm spending time there too now b/c of silenced speech here n/t

[Squinch]

136. So what do you do about the silenced speech there?

[cwydro]

13. I went over there to lurk, just to see what was up.

Kind of shocked at some of the rhetoric.

I think most will return here.

[GulfCoast66]

19. There are about 30 of them

I hope will not return here. Besides, they will be more comfortable at FR anyway. The ones who say the will vote for Hillary rather than Trump or Greens will soon be run off.

[LiberalFighter]

129. I sure don't want all of them to.

[snooper2]

131. Questions- If they return post election because that site is a boring shithole, do we...

A- Mock them for the stupid shit they have posted
B- Let Skinner deal with it and just ban their asses on the spot
C- Tell them we are sorry they went delusional for a couple months and give them a big hug

[cwydro]

141. Depends who it is lol.

But the big hug is always good.

[JaneyVee]

14. Unreal:

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/i-dont-want-my-senator-to-play-the-tethered-goat/#post-37407

[NCTraveler]

121. That is a funny exchange.

A little frightening if taken seriously. Amazing how detached from reality people can make themselves in order to fit the narrative they have already drawn.

[zappaman]

15. Pinebaggerz. n/t

[kiva]

22. I think it's interesting that the mods at JPR

discourage bringing over fights from other sites - and honestly, a great idea on their part, it prevents posters like this one from stirring shit for fun.

[cyberswede]

108. +1

[Rhiannon12866]

109. +2

[Squinch]

138. That's new. Piners used to have an entire forum dedicated to trashing DU and individual DUers.

That was up till very recently.

[kiva]

159. I joined JPR early and was impressed that the mods

expressly asked new members not to spend time discussing DU - I hadn't seen that forum you mentioned, but may have just not looked at it. I remember another site, years ago (Elm Tree something) that devolved into nothing more than nasty comments about DUer and failed.

[Squinch]

163. It was a very popular forum. It was named something like "Third Way Sites." Of course.

[TwilightZone]

23. JPR isn't supporting Sanders.

You really should take a look around.

[panader0]

27. It was started as a site to support Sanders.

I have taken a look around. I joined last year.

[TwilightZone]

33. Started, yes.

That is the operative word.

[Hortensis]

44. The new site was expected to carry over the

Sanders logo, but for "technical" reasons it hasn't been added to the face page yet. A natural-enough evolution, including an understandable dissimilation in what is very much an emotional and volatile transition period.

[trumad]

36. Really

It took me 30 seconds to read the name Killary at that site.

Fuck that place

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

47. I think it's disgusting that a "progressive" says they will vote for a Rethug Congress critter....

....to impeach Hillary.

You soak in that shit?

[840high]

69. Yep - that's why

this OP is stupid.

[seabeckind]

17. Good thread over there.

Interesting discussion.

Thanks for the link.

Added: BTW, my take is a bit different. The jpr folks held their own pretty well.

Personally I don't care for the Nader-blame meme. Way too simplistic. If there's blame needed, I'd point to whoever decided joementum would be an asset.

[villager]

21. Interesting where the most level-headed, and least-snarky posts on this thread are coming from.

Interesting that an OP in clear violation of the "new" "rules" is still standing.

[TwilightZone]

24. It's not about Sanders.

It's about an anti-Clinton website that thinks that calling Hillary Clinton the c-word and openly supporting Trump as the lesser of two evils are just peachy keen.

Besides, the folks on JPR are being trolled by many of the same trolls who've been here for 15 years. They just haven't figured it out yet.

[unc70]

35. Most of those threads were hidden there

The ones using the c-word were hidden - all or nearly all.


Just like here, they have trolls just trying to make the site look bad. We had posters during and after the Dallas attack who were claiming it was a RW attack to discredit BLM.

As for the trolls, I mostly agree. Whether trolls or not, we have been having too many outrageous posts all around. For example here at DU we just had "Fuck the Dallas Police Chief". http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028002153

[trumad]

39. Killary still seems to be a great name there.

[TwilightZone]

45. They weren't hidden until they were exposed on DU.

Some of them were up for days prior to that.

As for your link, the majority opinion appears to disagree with the OP. It also appears to be an opinion based on only part of the police chief's statement and not overt trolling. You may disagree.

[unc70]

96. No, I agree on that particular thread

The majority of responses were sane. That was just a recent OP here I thought a bit much.

[truebrit71]

30. All animals are equal, some are more equal than others.

Plus ca change...

[villager]

52. How ya gonna keep down on the farm, indeed?

[trumad]

37. New rules?

Bashing Free Republic is against the rules?

[840high]

70. Stop it. Grow up.

[840high]

97. I'm not a he. My Mom has been

dead 30 years +. You made a stupid op just to stir trouble.

[trumad]

115. Goes to show how much I pay attention to you.

[snooper2]

132. what are you talking about, at this point JPR is to the right of discussionist

[Scootaloo]

81. I suggest you go read FreeRepublic

Right now the lead thread over on Freeperville is one that that claims Black Lives Matter and ISIS are in cahoots to kill white cops, spark a race war, and let Islam triumph over America. Broguht to you by anti-Muslim hate site, "JihadWatch."

You need to learn the difference between progressives who don't agree with you, and right-wing nutjobs.

[trumad]

88. They also use the C word and Killary there as well...

Funny how Jacks site does the same.

[Scootaloo]

93. As i told another poster...

No. They don't "use the C-word." it got used on one thread, by one poster on the old site.) This sparked a debate over whether or not there should be "word policing." The consensus was no, there should not be mandatory "word policing," that the community ought to enforce its standards through debate and argument rather than moderator fiat. Since that thread, it's not been said, except for mentions of that particular discussion... Which amounts to exactly the same thing as you and I saying "C-word", just with fewer letters.

As for "Killary", a search shows that it is exactly one poster over there using that term. one dude. he uses it frequently, but it's definitely not a "they."

Again. A progressive who disagrees with you is not the same thing as a right-wing nutjob.

[Nye Bevan]

104. .

http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?10687-Hillary-nicknames

[awoke_in_2003]

155. Holy shit. nt

[Agschmid]

28. *wear

[trumad]

38. Yeah---I changed it after re-reading.

[mopinko]

48. just the latest in a long line of disgruntled du'ers

upset that they cant spew their nasty here, so they take their ball and start a new game elsewhere.
this one will go the way of the others- they will dry up and wither on the vine, poisoned by their vitriol.

du is better off without the bitter dead enders.

[reddread]

72. some of those posters were reprehensible, unrelenting commentators here

Third Way Manny, for one.
that guy.
hard to believe he wasnt banned sooner.

[DCBob]

53. I saw that too.

Funny!

[seabeyond]

54. I have all the faith in the world about Cali. She is a woman that knows her mind. Agree or not. Nt

[DianaForRussFeingold]

71. I agree!

[bhikkhu]

57. There is some serious hate there

One stating they would vote for trump, and in case he didn't win they'd vote straight line repug in hopes that a stacked congress would impeach her. That's just mental...

[still_one]

60. If she was here right now I would point out to her that NO, THEY ARE NOT EQUALLY

AWFUL PROSPECTS, in her reference to Hillary verses trump, and she knows that

[DianaForRussFeingold]

66. If you're using the Tom and Jerry analogy--Here's an episode for here

"Butch convinces Tom and Jerry that there's no reason to fight and they should all sign a peace treaty."

" Tom and Butch even rescue their pals from a fellow cat and dog."


"But then a steak falls off a truck and they can't decide how to divvy it up,
ultimately losing it completely, and the truce is off."

[AngryAmish]

68. Antagonists.

[brush]

73. Lots of fantacy believers over there. Not worth arguing with.

[giftedgirl77]

74. That place is the discussionist of the left.

Not going to be sullied up by reading their insane rantings & idiotic perpetual whining of those loons. I'm glad the clueless fools found a new home.

[reddread]

80. should be interesting to watch membership and participation dwindle

what are those internet website relevancy ratings?
clueless but curious.
how long can they last with that extreme leftist bias in America?

[HDSam]

77. A lot of DU'rs

are letting JPR live rent free in their head.

What is it now, about a thread a day about what's going on over at JPR? Maybe it should be a sticky.

Lots of free advertising.

[bravenak]

78. She will tell them to delete her account soon enough

She does not hate Hillary or Democrats enough to remain there

[arely staircase]

83. They must really be bad. I am glad she has gotten on board with

the ticket, if she has. She is mean as shit and I rarely agree with her , except for who to vote for in general elections. We have gotten into it a lot. But I have talked to her on PM and she is good person. Takes no prisoners, though. God help anyone she is fucking with over there.

[bravenak]

90. Yep

She is not one to take any shit so I do not see her posting there working out. She is just not fucking crazy like them.

[arely staircase]

92. I am gonna go check on it. She posting under 'cali'? nt

[bravenak]

94. Yep. Same handle.

They seem to not be very happy with her since she is not taking their shit.

[reddread]

119. thats odd

After a few years of NONSTOP Hillary bashing posts?
she didnt relent until the election was getting close.
I assume her numerous protracted absences were due
to being on long time outs repeatedly?
was she simply on vacation?
I really havent seen anything as over the top and redoubled as
the many many many posts about how bad Hillary was that she
put out.
How much hate is enough?

[bravenak]

162. While she hated hillary a bunch

Those folks take it to a whole nother level.

[ozone_man]

84. Get a life Trumad.

It's annoying when people complain about other sites. Why not try to make DU a more progressive place to be? So that progressives don't leave in droves.

[trumad]

86. I have a life...

Had one since I joined this site in 2001.

Appreciate your concern though.

[NCTraveler]

122. You just complained about a site...

All while lecturing someone else not to.

[MariaThinks]

100. i think it's owned by DU shareholders

[The Straight Story]

105. Used to be folks here complained about rw sites like CC and FR

Now they bitch about fellow democrats who aren't in the same tent they are in - even though they are all in the same big tent.

[TwilightZone]

134. Many of the posters on JPR aren't Democrats.

As they never tired of telling us when they were here.

[obamanut2012]

139. lolz Democrats dopn't advocate for TRump winning

Including saying they will vote for Trump to beat "Killary."

[PersonNumber503602]

107. Off-topic, but are they using the same forum software as the original DU?

*edit* Nope. They are not.

[retread]

116. schadenfreude! n/t

[coyote]

118. .

No such thing as bad publicity.

[puffy socks]

125. John Kerry would disagree

as would Gary Hart, Jimmy Swaggart
and a host of others.

[Iggo]

126. Posting so I don't have to serve on any more juries for this thread.

[awoke_in_2003]

158. I did not realize

that loophole existed.

[bullwinkle428]

127. Here's the thing about cali - SHE DOES NOT SUFFER KOOL-AID DRINKERS.

It doesn't matter whether those Kool-Aid drinkers are at The Other Site, or right here at good old DU, which is why some people had issues with her.

Quite frankly, she is one of the most objective posters I've ever interacted with at ANY site, let alone DU, and DU is way worse off for her departure. I'd love to see her back here, but can totally understand if she'd prefer to take a break.

[sarae]

130. I feel dirty after reading those posts...

too many insufferable people crammed onto one message board. No thanks!

[auntpurl]

133. Just my personal opinion - I think we should move on.

We all had our fun on the monster 1000+ post thread, but we have an election to win here. Those people are not going to help us do it. The more time we spend talking about them, the less time we spend getting Hillary into the WH. And also, the more publicity we give them (they're only a tiny fringe site now, but we're giving them a HUGE platform) the more audience they have to spread their hateful rhetoric.

[obamanut2012]

137. A few surprises in the names reccing that thread

Big ones.

[BainsBane]

142. I think this has run its course

I was all for the first thread on JPR, but I think we've had enough. Let's move on to promoting party unity. We can hope they will come around to supporting the party, but regardless our goal needs to be to turn out Democratic voters.

[aikoaiko]

143. Antagonizing them will not serve us well.

I know its your schtick, but still....

[Hekate]

144. That's two love letters (of sorts) to Cali in as many days. Don't be a stranger, girl.

People here obviously miss butting heads with ya.

We'll leave the light on

[tallahasseedem]

148. Man, that is like a Freep site!

Last time I'll ever be reading that crap!

[Marr]

157. Antagonists, not protagonists.

Unless you're saying you're both heroes in separate stories.

[Rex]

161. Maybe she meant anti-heros.