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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:36 PM Jul 2016

When minority members commit high profile crimes (like domestic terrorism), we all feel under threat

in a way that i do not think majority members ever can fully understand.

When Dylan Roof committed domestic terrorism, most of my white friends and family were upset, but none felt scared for their own lives afterwards.

They did not suffer the "OMG, what will the retaliation to this be" dread.

I hope there is no retaliation for Dallas, but I think we all fear that there will be. And that is a unique and strange fear.

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When minority members commit high profile crimes (like domestic terrorism), we all feel under threat (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 OP
What will the retaliation be JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #1
Marching in the next BLM protest lapfog_1 Jul 2016 #3
it's not just you. i have close black male friends and a young south asian brother in the world La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #4
+1 ... I wonder how many "majority" members have heard/read about ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #2
yup. that angst, followed by the why did you ruin it for us angst, followed by dread La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #5
Or hear them say that majority member set us back 60 years rbrnmw Jul 2016 #6
LOL. Strangely, I have heard majority members ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #7
everyone fucking wants to live in the fifties these days. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #8
Everyone except PoC and Women ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #11
There are too many majority members wanting to go back the 50s geardaddy Jul 2016 #15
and I am sure they do want to go back rbrnmw Jul 2016 #9
And very few women or Members of the LGBT Community. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #12
so true rbrnmw Jul 2016 #13
:( Solly Mack Jul 2016 #10
Perhaps a little, but no not the same whatthehey Jul 2016 #14
I heard this dread loud and clear in the voice of Mr. Castile's girlfriend. beastie boy Jul 2016 #16
I can get that without fully understanding. GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #17

lapfog_1

(29,166 posts)
3. Marching in the next BLM protest
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jul 2016

will be an act of courage.

One I now hope to join...

If BLM shows up at the RNC convention (with the already armed KKK and white supremacists providing "protection" and encouraged to beat protesters at Trump rallys)... I expect extreme violence.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
4. it's not just you. i have close black male friends and a young south asian brother in the world
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jul 2016

and days like today, i cannot even really hear the news.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. +1 ... I wonder how many "majority" members have heard/read about ...
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jul 2016

a high profile or horrific crime and got that, "Oh Lawd ... Don't let her/him be {insert "majority" identity, here}!" angst?

I'd bet very few.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
7. LOL. Strangely, I have heard majority members ...
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jul 2016

longing to go back 60 years.

If that isn't the best exemplar of lives lived differently, I don't know what could be.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. Everyone except PoC and Women ...
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jul 2016

well, some women, and Members of the LGBT Community (hell, they don't even want to go back to the 2000s).

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
9. and I am sure they do want to go back
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jul 2016

you would be hard pressed to find 1 black person wanting to go back

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
14. Perhaps a little, but no not the same
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jul 2016

When churches get burned down or congregations shot up I confess to hoping and praying it's not some loony trying to become an actual militant atheist instead of the internet fantasy (then I remember the inherent contradiction and stick to just hoping... .) There are two major differences of course. My skin does not proclaim me a nonbeliever to all ahead of my very presence, and, outside the sophomoric wannabe wits of the Religion group apologists, few people look to random acts of individual atheists as representative of the whole. While there's naught that can be done about the visual identification part, the one minority=all minorities thing should be easy, but is depressingly hard to address.

I confess I don't know where it comes from. I really don't see group-based confirmation bias as prevalent anywhere else other than race. You get a bit of it with age I suppose. There's plenty of people who pretend kids in "their" day were respectful and kind and gentle (even when my day was the same day as theirs and I surely don't remember us all being saints) and any misbehavior of a child now demonstrates they're all nasty and poorly brought up, but even then you don't see the "if I consider one child I know all children" thing like you do with racial minorities.

It was an ostensibly benign example that really brought this home to me. In the late 90s I was living in an extremely white area (<3% black) working for an educational materials company. The owner was reviewing cartoon artwork for a display which showed several kids on a schoolbus with a black boy in the back seat. One of the managers wondered if that may be perceived as racially insensitive. The owner's response was "Well I don't think so but so and so in the warehouse is black so I'll go ask him." And sweeping aside objections, as was often the case incidentally, off they went to the warehouse to ask a random working man, addressed by his boss's boss's boss's boss for undoubtedly the first time, expected to speak for Black America on the topic of racial sensitivity as it related to cartoons their company created. About the best I could do was wonder aloud why nobody thought to ask me if pictures of fat kids were offensive...

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
16. I heard this dread loud and clear in the voice of Mr. Castile's girlfriend.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jul 2016

She was quite literally fighting for her and her daughter's life as Mr. Castile was dying next to her.

It was sickening. Probably more sickening than the murder itself, although I am very hesitant to make this call.

GaYellowDawg

(4,443 posts)
17. I can get that without fully understanding.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jul 2016

I didn't fear retaliation because Timothy McVeigh was white.

Treating the actions of one person as representative of an entire race is one of the cornerstones of racism.

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