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tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:11 PM Jun 2016

Will those for a war against ISIS sit it out again like Iraq and Afghanistan?

I just thought I'd ask since the right leaning among us feel that ISIS needs to be nipped in the bud ASAP (using an aggressive military campaign no doubt) and have gone as far as to insinuate that by ignoring them will cost the Democrats the election in November. How can blame these people for thinking that? With all those past military successes of the previous administration - there's no way we could this war...

So tell us you bloodthirsty hawks? You all going to sit out this war too?



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Will those for a war against ISIS sit it out again like Iraq and Afghanistan? (Original Post) tenderfoot Jun 2016 OP
I don't think you follow closely what happens in Europe Albertoo Jun 2016 #1
I don't think you study what the West has been doing across the ME and Africa n/t malaise Jul 2016 #15
Rather closely. What is your question? Albertoo Jul 2016 #16
ISIS TeddyR Jun 2016 #2
Stunning FBaggins Jun 2016 #3
Are you referring to the 250 people killed today by airstrikes? tenderfoot Jun 2016 #5
I heard that was an ISIS convoy with 250 ISIS militants. Those poor ISIS souls weren't doing PersonNumber503602 Jun 2016 #6
Don't be silly FBaggins Jun 2016 #11
Nope. FBaggins Jun 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author FBaggins Jun 2016 #10
Let's send a bunch of poor whites, blacks and Latinos to do the dirty work of KingCharlemagne Jun 2016 #4
Don't forget the tax cuts gratuitous Jul 2016 #19
I think your reply might have been intended for someone KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #20
We pull out of there, ISIS takes over Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan. realmirage Jun 2016 #7
They want your children to go do it for them mwrguy Jun 2016 #8
Middle East needs to carry the load Motley13 Jul 2016 #12
because killing a shitload of people in the middle east has worked out so well before. KG Jul 2016 #13
Daesh does need to be stopped. But we need to stop romanticizing any war, even one against them ck4829 Jul 2016 #14
Bernie Sanders’ plan to destroy ISIS oberliner Jul 2016 #17
A coalition of the willing, if you will. Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #18
 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
1. I don't think you follow closely what happens in Europe
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jun 2016

ISIS had a romantic magnet appeal for lots of disenfranchised European Muslims.

When they come back from their tour in Iraq/Syria, they have been duly radicalized and trained in guerilla warfare.

Leaving ISIS to stand as a jihadi Disneyland would have meant Europe down in flames in 10, 20 years (assuming it won't happen anyway)

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
6. I heard that was an ISIS convoy with 250 ISIS militants. Those poor ISIS souls weren't doing
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jun 2016

anything wrong. I bet the Iraqi military, people of Iraq, and government are furious that US airstrikes took out so many ISIS militants.

RIP ISIS.

*US troops should not be in Iraq in any great numbers, in my opinion.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
9. Nope.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jun 2016

Thanks for demonstrating my point for me (the inability to recognize bloodshed from bloodthirsty)

Response to tenderfoot (Reply #5)

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
4. Let's send a bunch of poor whites, blacks and Latinos to do the dirty work of
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jun 2016

Empire for us.



"No Vietcong ever called me a Nigger." Mohammed Ali (RIP)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Don't forget the tax cuts
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 01:14 AM
Jul 2016

The wealthy are going to need their taxes cut some more if they're really going to be motivated. No, we haven't paid off the last two invasions and occupations, and they're still going on. Why do you ask?

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
20. I think your reply might have been intended for someone
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jul 2016

else, but I'm pretty sure u and I are on the same page here.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
7. We pull out of there, ISIS takes over Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jun 2016

Now they have massive resources to fund terrorist attacks all over the world like the recent ones in Paris and Istanbul. Spare me the anti-war bullshit. ISIS are a disease like the Nazis. I bet you think we should have stayed out of WWII also, right?

Last and only response. Too ridiculous for any more of my time.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
12. Middle East needs to carry the load
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 08:52 AM
Jul 2016

Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Israel, Iran, Turkey have resources & manpower. US, UK, Canada, France, Germany can supply tech, drones etc. This war belongs to the middle east & Muslim countries. ISIS is killing more Muslims than anyone, hopefully Turkey will step up more after what happened there.

Vietnam & Irag got us nowhere except for a lot of young people killed for nothing.

KG

(28,751 posts)
13. because killing a shitload of people in the middle east has worked out so well before.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 09:04 AM
Jul 2016

oh, we'll get right this time, coz there's a D in the white house!

ck4829

(35,040 posts)
14. Daesh does need to be stopped. But we need to stop romanticizing any war, even one against them
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jul 2016

This isn't an 'extermination', this is infanticide as in the US killing a child created by our own war and policy.

We don't have a great track record of 'helping' that region from between Ajax to "Mission Accomplished" and it's time to own up to it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Bernie Sanders’ plan to destroy ISIS
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 12:46 AM
Jul 2016

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (VT-I), Democratic Presidential Candidate: Well, I think it has to be destroyed.

This is a barbaric organization that is a threat not only to the people in the Middle East, to the people in Europe, but obviously to the people in the United States as well. It has to be destroyed.

And here is how we destroy it. We do not destroy it by doing what we did in Iraq and getting into perpetual warfare. I voted against the war in Iraq. In fact, Secretary Clinton, when she was in the Senate, voted for that war.

What we do, as King Abdullah of Jordan has told us, is we work to put together a very effective coalition of Muslim nations who lead the effort on the ground, supported by the United States, the U.K., France, and other major powers in the air and through training.

Now, in the last year, we have had some success. Ramadi has been recaptured. ISIS has lost about 20 percent of the ground that it controlled. But we have a lot more to do. So, I think what we need is strong coalition.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/bernie-sanderss-plan-to-destroy-isis/

Agree?

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