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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGeneration X is sick of your bullshit (millenials)
But whatever! Generation X is self-sufficient. It was a latchkey child. Its parents were too busy fulfilling their own personal ambitions to notice any of its trophies-which were admittedly few and far between because they were only awarded for victories, not participation.
http://gizmodo.com/5851062/generation-x-is-sick-of-your-bullshit
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)Little bit of historical revisionism there, no?
The Boomers were so full of themselves they thought nothing of racking up an unprecedented mountain of debt for which they would put future generations on the hook.
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)Supporting a middle class life style including 2 kids and buying a house with one income from a union job makes the boomers special. My parents were boomers and did exactly that. And that hasn't happened for any generation since. You had it that good and you can't even recognize it? Amazing.
Imagine marrying someone and graduating today from a top 50 university with combined $50k student loan debt (this could easily be doubled). You have to pay a quarter of your take home salary to student loans, half of your take home salary goes to rent, the rest to buy food and gas. Tell me how you would support 2 kids and save up for a down payment on a house, because that is exactly what my parents did in the 60s.
Your generation was so special you don't even realize how special you were.
raccoon
(31,131 posts)were a helluva lot smaller then as well.
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)The point was, back then the middle class was far bigger and better off than it is today
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,393 posts)Nothing but older people talking shit about younger people. And it has been going on literally forever. Boring.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)And so on and so on.
Getting older sucks beyond compare. But it beats the alternative.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)yardwork
(61,752 posts)FSogol
(45,580 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.
Iggo
(47,586 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The corollary as well. 'Young people talking shit about older people... and it too has been going on literally forever. Exciting enough to comment on, but the fashionably disinterested and cool trendiness of youth compels us to call it "boring" for the sake of, well... the cool trendiness of youth.
It is odd that you call generational labels 'bullshit' in your premise while using them as supporting evidence.
BeyondGeography
(39,393 posts)Older people throw the first punch. The whole dynamic is a dead end distraction. Circumstances are what fundamentally change with time, not people.
Marr
(20,317 posts)I've noticed it's usually the laziest people who like to complain about lazy young people.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)*snrk*
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)This Gen Xer loves millenials. They bring me hope.
(Ftr, I did read the whole thing)
RichVRichV
(885 posts)I'm proud of what the millennials have accomplished and how active they are. And I fully support them. As a Gen Xer I'm tired of having the baby boomers always decide things (we simply never had the numbers to counter them).
I don't begrudge the baby boomers but they are the generation that brought us Reagan, trickle down economics, and the DLC. I'm quite sure the millennials can do a better job once they start flexing their collective muscles. And I look forward to supporting them in the endeavor.
braddy
(3,585 posts)stopwastingmymoney
(2,042 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)The standard of living in America has been in decline since 1968. There is a challenge in that for ALL of us. We live in a country that seems to be believe that being low income HAS to be punished. The equation is now even more stick than carrot (and the carrot is GMO btw).
We need more doers and less complainers. More actors and less audience. Higher expectations and lower healthcare costs.
for ALL of us.
Iggo
(47,586 posts)X versus Boomers must be over.
Gotta drum up some new intergenerational hate.
Good luck, kids!
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)uphill both ways in a blizzard while carrying the 150 pounds of paper work I have to process each and every hour.
then, if I get a lunch (you kids today are so lucky with the eating thing), I go and chew on twigs and gravel.
and let's not even discuss the complete waste of time of going to the bathroom. I'm holding it in until retirement.
-this has been a message brought to from the babyboom generation, now get off my lawn!
Egnever
(21,506 posts)When i was a kid the hours were 9-5 including an hour lunch paid. There was even a movie complaining about it.
Now days it's 9-5:30 with a half hour lunch unpaid....
Just saying that gravel might not have tasted good but at least you were paid to eat it.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)24 hours a day. There are people who basically live their jobs.
I say that but I am a boomer and I always worked a ton of overtime but I did get paid for it.
raccoon
(31,131 posts)Hugin
(33,222 posts)I'm Generation Jones.
Younger siblings to the Boomers and airline seat-back kickees to the Bratty X-ers.
Our motto: We don't count, so we don't give a damn.
Oh, and BTW... I get a real charge out of the Millennials. Go get 'em kids! w00t!
cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)The bulk of the anti-vax movement seems to be Gen X. Are you sure you really want to toot that horn? As a Gen Xer myself, I find that dead embarrassing.
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Tommy_Carcetti
(43,226 posts)It's cyclical.
I'm not a millennial, but I can't help but roll my eyes at Gen Xers going on about how millennial are self-entitled brats. The boomers said the same thing about us, and their parent's generation said the same thing about them.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)We've got no one to blame but ourselves. But personally I love milennials.
RandySF
(59,614 posts)We're those like my parents who were born in the mid-1930's to early 1940's.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)In some ways they might have had the best of the American Dream, if they were white. Yes they had the tail end of the Depression and WWII in their childhoods, but they were largely too young for Korea and then too old for Vietnam drafts. They came of age in a time when college was cheap and then one decent job, even a factory job, could get you a house, a new car every few years, vacations, etc. Medical and dental care didn't bankrupt you.
But now a lot of them (obviously not all) are bitter old rightwing racists who hate immigrants, don't want to pay any taxes, and think only they should be entitled to the good life. At least that's been my experience with my parents' peers.
trackfan
(3,650 posts)just older than him as "those guys that were only interested in hot rods".
RandySF
(59,614 posts)My dad is crazy about cars and street raced in his youth.
EllieBC
(3,045 posts)LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)The Silent Generation
Since we are on a generation kick, I can't recommend this book enough. It changed my entire perspective on generational divides and really helped me to come to terms with the Boomer v Xer battle.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)tell me is to "Keep living".
JustAnotherGen
(32,002 posts)Back then when I first read it?
I see it targeted at Millenials and Boomers.
And yes - for me it applies. A LOT of it!
And if people can't see the humor in the Cynical Assholeness of this - well wake up and smell the cynics! We are all around you. At our family get togethers that pretty much inspired the show "Modern Family".
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Personally I take it as humor but a lot of people seem humorless.
Not you.
JustAnotherGen
(32,002 posts)There was a thread where a lot of gen xer's kvetched and bemoaned the Inhumanity of Our Existence! Or rather lack therof to politicians, marketers, etc. etc.
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I never fit in with my "Reagan Youth" peers.
This generation is more liberal, less racist, more accepting and open-minded and tolerant, more worldly, and much less susceptible to propaganda. They see through bullshit, like religion and political spin.
JustAnotherGen
(32,002 posts)Were not Reagan Youth - the more 'avante garde' were Ross Perot supporters.
I also saw in 2000 how quickly my liberal friends and I got on the Bradley train!
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)My family was middle class, but my high school was swimming in rich white kids who loved them some Izod shirts, Topsiders, and Ronnie Raygun. Ugh.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)It's the fucking Baby Boomers that piss us off.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)raccoon
(31,131 posts)you apparently think.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)JustAnotherGen
(32,002 posts)And we had to EARN our trophies and ribbons!
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)and you might heal some of your own wounds, and actually enjoy that even more.
In the meantime, you're right. Feeling too entitled is not a good thing either. But too much "self-sufficiency" isn't all it is always cracked up to be. Working together and in unison is really the only way peoplekind has survived.
JustAnotherGen
(32,002 posts)Seriously - it was a joke.
I c/p'd from the article.
I guess that really does make me a Gen Xer -because I can laugh at anything. Some say our defining movies were Higher Learning and Reality Bites. Nu-unh. I say Clerks and Office Space - and Half Baked - because well -
It was easier to buy weed at 19 than it was a six pack of beer. They didn't ask for your fake id.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)I am really excited about young adults nowadays.
Or maybe I'm biased because my oldest daughter is 25 and has never asked me for a penny... when she was without a job, she hustled her ass off and cobbled together 3 or 4 part time gigs in order to make ends meet before finding her current full-time position.
One thing I can say for sure, they are sick of our shit and aren't taking it lying down anymore.
RandySF
(59,614 posts)God bless milenials.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)in excess of 15 miles an hour, spooking the horses
Plus they crank up those victrolas at all hours of the night and scandalize the neighborhood with their naughty dance recordings
I actually saw a young woman -- I won't call her a lady -- sitting on a young man's shoulders the other day
surrealAmerican
(11,367 posts)... pitting one generation against another? We're all in this together. We are the wealthiest nation the world has ever know. We can take care of everyone. We don't need to attack young adults to benefit older adults, or vice-versa.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)Oneironaut
(5,538 posts)(AKA my insanely Polish great-grandmother? )
Oneironaut
(5,538 posts)forgetting that it acted in the same way. Your generation was full of whiny brats. Sorry to break it to everybody. You just have a mental bias and don't remember.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)especially as a Gen Xer. Look, to those that agree with the OP, maybe you are jealous because instead of taking smoke breaks, going whatever, and idolizing Kurt (whose music was not even the best of his generation), the Millennials are actually trying to DO SOMETHING about it. It may be silly, it may be futile, but when these kids are in their 40's, they can at least say they gave a damned and tried.
To quote the Boomer artist that Kurt quote in his suicide note "it's better to burn out than to fade away." Sadly, people like this op chose to fade away. If that is what being a Gen X is being reduced to, then fuck that. Of course, I know it is not, but that this is just another thing put in the spotlight so that the rich among the Boomers can point top it and say Se,, we were the last youthful generation to mean anything" w suit them just fine as the last of their Generation eats the last of the earth, gleeful that they no longer have to pretend to give a damned about anybody but themselves.
My every Boomer who chose to demonize and exploit Gen Xers or Millennials live long enough to enjoy a rest home staffed by the same kids whose future they spent.
herding cats
(19,569 posts)Not that the angst has necessarily changed, but I think many GenX people have since given up on ever having a niche.
It's a generation over looked and never really marketed to. In modern society, it's as if they're an asterisk in history, which is sad. They honed much of our culture, imagine what rock would be without their contributions? Metal, punk, rap and grunge were honed from their advances.. Sure, film sort of sucked, but I think they resisted the herding there better some other generations to be honest. ESee their music for a hint at that (ignore hair bands, WTF were they thinking?!) They hated being told how it was going to be and lashed out in their own way. Problem was, no one was listening since they were sandwiched in between two much larger generations.
I'm a GenX I recently learned (I think?), but whatever. I'm not about labels, and I have friends both above and below my generation. We can all learn from each other. And, hey, even if I'm not as competitive as some of my slightly younger peers at work, I work amazingly well on my own, and need less personal validation for my input. <---- riffing on the stereotype for those who don't get my humor. 😉
Lather, rinse, repeat. This crap never changes... All we can do is not bother to validate the silliness of it. We don't have to "clan" up against each other. We're all in this together. That's reality.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Most of them anyway.