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https://www.sott.net/article/315060-Psychologists-explain-Trump-Hes-literally-a-narcissistic-psychopathClinical psychologist George Simon said that Trump is "so classic that I'm archiving video clips of him to use in workshops because there's no better example of his characteristics." He conducts lectures and seminars on manipulative behavior exhibited by narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths - all related Anti Social Personality Disorders. "Otherwise, I would have had to hire actors and write vignettes. He's like a dream come true."...
Carol Caldwell notes, in D.J. Trump, Psychopath, that "it's been attested to by psychologists and neurobiologists who study psycho- and sociopaths that the deadly syndrome can be seen in their eyes."
She observes that "the eyes are described as affectless, what we would call cold, or eerily blank in one-on-one or televised exchanges. The sociopath is described as charming, out-going, intelligent, cunning, winning without warmth, but adaptable to whatever human kindness you telegraph to them. As we well know, many of them ascend to top positions in major industries, I might mention Wall Street and banking, heads of Hollywood studios, and members of Congress. On the street levels of everyday life, they work their wiles into all kinds of jobs, by falsifying resumes to fit the careers they are after. One area of human endeavor they seem less adaptable to is refined senses of humor."
pangaia
(24,324 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)(Heh heh heh heh, just giving you the soft pitch so you can knock it out of the park.)
pangaia
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But there are narcissistic conductors.
valerief
(53,235 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Actually there are very, very few whom I would refer to as Maestro (or Maestra).
Myung-whun Chung is #1 in my book..
valerief
(53,235 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)applegrove
(118,900 posts)salesman.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)I used to think Trump was less dangerous too, as an overt malignant narcissist who fits the profile of a batterer as well.
But it's weird. Cruz doesn't have that easy charm. He's almost asperger-ish, and my experience has been that people on the autism spectrum are actually honest to a fault because they lack "theory of mind," the capacity to get in someone else's head enough to manipulate them.
I'd agree that they're both malignant narcissists even extending into sociopathology, but Cruz' lack of surface charm throws me. People recoil from him, whereas sociopaths excel in getting naive and not-so-naive people to trust them. Hmmmm . . . . ?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)or gifted in any other way, just that they have a higher average of people with those traits, especially the particularly successful ones, like very likely Tom "The Hammer" DeLay and New Gingrich -- before they self-destructed. Some of them reach the pinnacle of their success by marrying someone as a way of exploiting him or her and making that person miserable, or weaseling their way onto disability and welfare programs and chortling in some government-paid single-room-occupancy at their cleverness.
applegrove
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make crows feet) which is a dead give away that he is faking it. And that disgusts people. Also Cruz seems to like making people unhappy which is a bit odd sadism. Which means he probably likes disgusting people so he never bothered to study how to improve his mask. He's less smooth and schooled as sociopaths go. Trump is a dyslexic salesman who is using racism and xenophobia to get elected. Someone said last week that Trump sent his minions out to listen to GOP talk radio before he ran. What came out of that was the base's fear of losing jobs and fear of immigrants. So those became his two main themes. I don't think that Trump is as empty as Cruz. He's just stoking resentments because that is what is left when you dial down 40 years of movement conservatism. I really think that all sorts of ideas and opposite policies go through his brain every day as he tries to suss out the election and connect with the base. An opportunist? Yes. A sociopath? No. A narcissist? Yes but because he is a celebrity.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)madville
(7,413 posts)We are choosing between two narcissists.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)I wonder what Mrs Clinton's diagnosis is. There has to be a word for someone who changes her stance on every issue depending on who she's talking to.
keithbvadu2
(37,039 posts)"someone who changes her stance on every issue depending on who she's talking to."
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)must to get anywhere.
But his is so profound it has him disconnected from the outside world, living only in his own fantasy. The whole world exists just to reflect his splendor back at him.
She's a hard working, put her shoulder to the wheel kind of person. Not an empty suit, with a rich father, like the Donald.
Volaris
(10,278 posts)Also, she's NOT a natural politician like her husband. And I very much wish that she would stop trying. Her strengths are a razor sharp mind that sees connections that others cannot, a Will made of steel, and PATIENCE, if I'm seeing properly. If she decided that Status Quo is no longer acceptable, the alternative and useful solutions she could create would be truly world-altering. But if Status Quo is good enough, that iron will again and that's EXACTLY what we will be getting, no matter how passivley destructive it may be. I give her immense credit for the power she's attained for herself (against the near complete hatred of her rivals) but Power by itself isn't laudable or useful unless it's attached to something greater than itself.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)many positive traits...as you mentioned. I'm also a woman of her generation. It wasn't easy back in the 60s when feminism, as a real social/political issue, was formed. My very last class in college was the first 6 week class/symposium in Feminism in that liberal arts college.
She's returning to her Republican roots under pressure, IMO, because she knows how they think and feel. Why not Democratic money? It's not like it's not out there. Perhaps they are tapped out, not sure of her ultimate ascension to the Presidency or fear she can't beat Trump. It's well covered which candidate beats Trump easily.
Rich donors aren't dumb. But the shift to Republican donors says more than one might think. Not only do they require favors for their funds, but they sense she will do their bidding...like the corporate banking industry. She has just lurched to the right, and my guess is that the Democrat donors don't trust her to further their/our agenda as they once did.
Volaris
(10,278 posts)I would add, any critique of the Clintons is NOT an attack on they're Mastery of the system, but rather on the SYSTEM that they were required to master in order to try and get anything at all useful accomplished.
If Hillary announced tomorrow that the first thing she would demand (and i mean DEMAND..as in, this will get done or i can get unelected) of Congress were publicly-funded elections via universal income tax, she would not only win in a landslide she would do it with the full-throated support of every human who voted for Sanders in the Primary.
We need to allow her to HAVE TAKEN the dirty wall st money. SHE needs to make sure that no one ever HAS TO take it again. That's the deal, but it IS non-negotiable.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Yes, Hillary is a victim of "learning the system too well". But in her case, as is shown by her love of her extravagant lifestyle and the fame and notoriety that goes with that, she is one of those who will never really "see" that her success is wrong because it is based on all the wrong things.
she loves being who she is and having the money and knowing all the important people. She thrives on being able to suck money out of the wealthy for her causes.
I don't see her ever taking the path you proscribe, as it would mean giving up too much, including being a master of her craft. She really is a master of her craft when it comes to playing for power and money. And she loves it too much to give up.
I'd really love to be proven wrong on this.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)The Clintons have flipped off the Left as a hobby. This is what Bill said HE was doing and look where that got us.
She's about power and money and being the President. That's pretty much it.
djean111
(14,255 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)I mean, really, you HAVE to think alot of yourself just to go through what you have to in order to get the job.
The american 2-year candidate structure demands it, as well as unlimited money.
If we were to go to the 6 week non-funded european model, that might change.
We've got the election system we want: We'd have to vote for candidates promoting election reform (insert you-know-who-here) in order for that to change.
You can't blame the entire system on Hillary, as much as I don't like her.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)she's entitled, just on the basis of her wonderfulness -- like Trump or a true narcissist would think.
But you have to have an ego to think you would make a good President.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Skittles
(153,298 posts)it would not be hard to do
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,508 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)George Bush. When he asked for her help selling his war, she acquiesced and actually gave a speech to convince other Democrats.
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)whole life. I actually wish she'd drop the polite thing and really let loose, but that would be political death.
This woman is a PHD in emotional control. No one is better at it. And I don't particularly like her, but it's a fact.
You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone with better control: Other than Obama. He's even better at it, and as the first black president, he needed to be.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)Hillary was thoughtful and contained, and gave detailed, thorough answers. He spit out a few slogans, Sarah Palin style.
Sarah's another likely narcissist, by the way.
Kingofalldems
(38,508 posts)Left them red faced and embarrassed.
reACTIONary
(5,796 posts)...the brush off.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)reACTIONary
(5,796 posts)... hired and instructed how to push her buttons? Hilllary wouldn't respond the way cry-bully trump does. She'd give them the brush off. That's not arrogance . ... that's class.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)don't give a crap about. She wants to amass hundreds of millions for her personal account. This is a class war and just because she pretends to care, she is a member of the exclusive top 1% of the top 1%. If she has class, it's the rich class.
reACTIONary
(5,796 posts).... not a "class war". The "class war" was held a long, long time ago. Nobody came. The class warriors lost. And not without good reason.
Skittles
(153,298 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)asked her to help sell their war.
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)Skittles
(153,298 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Good one, Rick.
Good one.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Remember how George W. Bush spent two years of his Presidency on vacation? I'm convinced it's because he was a narcissist and the walls were closing in on him. I think a team of people were constantly fluffing his dumb ass to rebuild his self esteem.
And now that he's a shnook and nobody wants to talk to him, his life must be a living hell. At least I hope it is.
The most important thing about people with NPD is that they are not always un-empathetic. Periodically, they have "moments of clarity," where they see themselves as they are, and see the damage they have caused. They instantly fall into deep depression and withdraw.
Donald Trump appears to have had such a moment back in September, though I never found out what caused it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1219532
That's how you destroy him. You put him on the spot, in public, make him see himself for the fraud he is, and try to get him to say some true things about himself, for once.
Another thing to know is that narcissists are constantly manipulated by those around them. They require a circle of smart, competent people, even though they are neither of those things. Those people are almost always extremely manipulative, even criminal, themselves. Like W, a Trump Presidency would be a never-ending disaster of subordinates coming, disgracing themselves, and being run off. A close look at his electoral team, here in a couple of months when he won't have as much time to react, might be a wise idea.
zazen
(2,978 posts)There are court documents indicating he hit Ivana and raped her.
Of course, the standards for every Democratic candidate are outrageous. The mainstream media has done with Lakoff and Johnson talked about in Metaphors We Live By. They've made Republicans gender-male and Democrats gender-female in subtle binary fashion, which means the former have no standards and the latter are blamed for the slightest hiccup. So however Clinton tries to defend herself against him she'll come off as a "bitch" to the 15% diehard woman-hating misogynists. But all women are bitches to them, so she's better off ridiculing him.
However, pulled off right, she'd be able to instigate him to assault her simply by standing there with the right double-entendres.
If nothing else, he'd storm off.
His whole narcissistic life is predicated on being able to walk away/distract/abuse when things get difficult--of not having to face the consequences of his own bad actions. He wouldn't be able to tolerate fair, witty, audience-approved ridicule by a smart woman.
And mark my words, as much as detest the policies of both Clintons and continue to hope that a convention floor fight will result in a Sanders nomination, if Clinton is the nominee, Sanders will be a powerful surrogate against Trump and will mock him in a way only a brutally witty male New Yorker can, and all of we Sanders supporters will cheer him on in that, because that level of racism and misogyny must be called out. He already has zinged him well by mocking him for "apparently not realizing that women go to the bathroom, which has obviously upset him a lot." Sanders can get that guy's goat better than anybody and he will be attack-dog #1 if Clinton wins the nomination.
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)Either you're another one of their limbs, under their total control, or they dismiss you as irrelevant. Not a trait you hope for in foreign diplomacy.
This fool cannot be allowed to run our country.
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)madinmaryland
(64,934 posts)Yes Indeed!!
rladdi
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hopeforchange2008
(610 posts)Old Crow
(2,212 posts)We've got a candidate for the presidency who's being used as a textbook case of psychopathology.
This brings to mind the story of an American who was in Germany in the 1930s, reporting back to the U.S. on the rise of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, aka Nazis. I don't recall if he was a reporter or a member of the U.S. State Department. The gist of his observations was that many of the Nazi leaders were exhibiting clear signs of serious mental illness. Any honest appraisal by a psychologist, he suggested, would verify this. Of course we all know this in hindsight, but I find it remarkable that long before all hell broke loose, at a time when some abroad were actually admiring the Nazis, a sober observer could see that the movement's leaders were psychopaths.
If anyone is familiar with this anecdote, please let me know the details. I did a quick Google search, but came up empty. Thanks.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)He was the ambassador to Nazi Germany in the 30's.
Good book about him is 'In The Garden Of The Beasts.'
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)I'll look into it. I'm thinking I heard the anecdote during an author interview on NPR, so it may be from the book you mention. Fantastic title!
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)My ex husband is too. I once had a psychologist tell me so, although she couldn't be 'definitive' she said because she hadn't assessed him, she had to deal with him on a regular basis for payment, as it was a child psychologist for our child and he was the one who was supposed to be paying, as he had the insurance. He was always trying her patience with payment, even though he could well afford it and would be reimbursed. He manipulated her on numerous occasions. She told me of his game playing and her assumptions on what his issue was. I had already suspected that was his issue, so it was no surprise, and it was nice to be validated that I wasn't crazy.
Anyway, my ex has the exact same manner of speaking. It's kind of uncanny. Every time I hear Trump speak I cringe, lol.
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)Congratulations on getting out of, and surviving, what must have been an incredibly difficult relationship.
Do you ever wonder what Melania Trump is enduring? Of course, I'm not sure she's such a peach, either.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)he dumped me. Left me with 4 kids. All because I dared disagree with him once. I became the 'enemy'. Those were his words. "You don't support me anymore so you might as well be my enemy."
Found out later he had been cheating for years. Led a double life. I was lucky he dumped me.
I had a dysfunctional upbringing (narcissistic co-dependent parents) and so did not see the obvious red flags. Believed everything he told me. Truly believed everything he said with my heart and soul. Apparently this is a typical coping mechanism for kids of narcissistic/sociopathic parents where there is abuse. You either trust everyone, all of the time, or you trust no one, ever. A child's mind has to take one path or the other if they have no guidance on a healthy way to decipher dysfunctional behavior. That's what the same psychologist told me anyway. I thought he was rescuing me. He wasn't physically abusive, and most of the time he treated me well, but obviously leading a double life/cheating is not being well treated. There were mind games, emotional abuse and other things in retrospect, but I was used to that due to my upbringing - my life with him was better than my home life by far. It was still awful though compared to how I should have been treated. I know that now.
Anyway, yes, lucky to get out but still deal with him on a regular basis due to the kids. He behaves relatively well now because I've called him out on it. Generally, like any bully, if you meet their behavior with the same, they will back down. Plus, I've heard through his mother (who is 100% on my side on this, sociopathy runs in the male side of her family so she understands what is going on) that he 'chose' me because he knew I'd be a good mother, and he doesn't want to piss me off so much that I would hate the kids. Like I would EVER! but because that is what he would do if he was in my position, he assumes that's what I would do as well. He just can't even imagine what someone with empathy and love really thinks, YK?
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)A couple observations:
First, your situation was worse than I was thinking. When you said Trump reminds me of your ex, you weren't kidding.
Second, it's impressive how well you've come to understand the entire situation and continue to grow as a human being, despite the barriers thrown in your way. Go, you. Your kids have a great mom, judging by these posts.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)I appreciate your kind words. I'm lucky that I was able to start over, because I have brains so I was able to go get a degree (and a crappy job that doesn't pay enough, lol) and because of the laws where I live, my ex does have to pay child support, so I am able to pay bills and I was able to put myself through school without too much debt.
And researching and learning is kind of a hobby for me, so finding out 'what was wrong' with my ex led me to find out what was also wrong with my parents...and the psychologist pushed me in the right direction as well. With time, I was able to see the larger picture.
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)It's nice to see that someone can come out of such a bad situation and manage to not be controlled by the psychic baggage.
Feel free to drop me an email or say hi in the threads. It was a pleasure meeting you.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Really. You made my day.
ailsagirl
(22,907 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)you guys are all awesome
ailsagirl
(22,907 posts)That could not have been easy but you persevered!!
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)I had a dysfunctional upbringing (narcissistic co-dependent parents) and so did not see the obvious red flags. Believed everything he told me. Truly believed everything he said with my heart and soul. Apparently this is a typical coping mechanism for kids of narcissistic/sociopathic parents where there is abuse. You either trust everyone, all of the time, or you trust no one, ever.
Glad you and your kids are free of this monster. Lessons learned the hard way. Often, women in your position wind up dead, or addicted to drugs or drink. We're glad you're here, with us!
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)national candidate.
I'm hoping people just put up billboards: Trump: You're such an ass-hole!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,069 posts)* inflated sense of their own importance: check
* deep need for admiration: check
* lack of empathy for others: check
* charming, out-going: check
* winning without warmth: check
* no refined sense of humor: check
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,776 posts)charming. I guess persevered charm is very much a matter of taste. I don't find him charming in the least. Revolting. Irritating. Infuriating. But not charming.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)kag
(4,079 posts)out of Congress, we'd only have about five people left...maybe.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... Without Conscience describes Trump's personality type perfectly. Sadly, as Ms Caldwell points out, it also describes 90% of Congress as well. Oh, and let's not forget Lloyd "We're Doing God's Work" Blankfein, and pretty much anyone that works on Wall Street. I'm sure such personality traits are a prerequisite for the job.
The weird part is that they are so obvious. How the hell is anyone taken in by people like Trump? Don't say much for the intelligence of those who support him. But then, they're probably just like him. Their contribution to the gene pool is subject to question. Just look at the photos his sons are so proud of, like slicing off the tails of dead elephants. 'Nuff said.
womanofthehills
(8,808 posts)by Martha Stout - She says that a lot of psychopaths get away with their behavior because people tend to think that other people have a conscience like them.
catchnrelease
(1,946 posts)I read it many years ago when a co-worker recommended it, as it explained why one of our supervisors was so difficult to work with. Then we were passing the book around and all agreed, this woman was the perfect example of a psychopath. Really an eye-opener.
Once I was aware of her personality disorder I kind of watched her behavior and attempts at manipulation from an observer's point of view, so to speak. Rather than being drawn into her games, I could more easily stand back and see what she was trying to do. Then I was able to sort of work around her and get my job done properly without getting into trouble. Sad to think adults have to go through that kind of bs!
millard filmore
(9 posts)"Don't say much for the intelligence of those who support him. But then, they're probably just like him."
My brother was the smart one of us kids growing up. All 'A's in school, 'A's in college (math major). He supports Trump, and no, I do not want to know why. He was for Romney last time, and got upset 4 years before when I called Palin a dingbat.
"Their contribution to the gene pool is subject to question."
My brother has 2 sons that got 'A's in school. The older one is getting a math PhD, the younger one might try for medical doctor. I hope those 2 are too young and busy for a political position.
Don't be complacent or dismissive. As Trump's current position shows, its real easy to stampede the idiots ... err, masses.
Urchin
(248 posts)Trump On Letting The Economy Collapse:
fred v
(271 posts)Sad.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)He's pushing things they kept below the surface into direct sunlight, specifically racism and sexism. Incidentally, Hillary's campaign is designed specifically to position her as fighting against those things. Trump is also crack to their base.
ailsagirl
(22,907 posts)ecstatic
(32,782 posts)govern. We already have a few terrifying clues. The article referenced his fascist desire to make any media criticism of him illegal. He encourages his thug supporters to punch protesters in the face. He jokes about killing people in Times Square. He tells disgusting lies to incite racial hate crimes against Muslims, Mexicans, etc. I honestly think he'd find ways to kill Americans who were inconvenient nuisances. That is why people compare him to Hitler!
Also, assuming he's a narcissistic psychopath, which diagnosis explains his failure to advance past middle school (or elementary school?) level thinking, conversation, and taunts? He behaves like a 6th grade bully. I'm still stunned and disappointed by how low the rethug party has such sunk this time.
Initech
(100,139 posts)I said that in one of the Top 10s I did. I said something like: "Donald Trump is a belligerent narcissistic egomaniacal sociopaths who has a side case of rageaholism. You can't insult a guy like that, it means nothing to him."
thesquanderer
(12,000 posts)...in Trump's case, voting against him as a person is more important than voting against him on policy. Even if you agreed with some of his positions, even if someone preferred him to Hillary on issues, it would just be plain dangerous to put this guy in charge.
lindysalsagal
(20,791 posts)They are unable or unwilling to make a connection between the challenges faced by any president and the knowledge and behavior of Donald Trump. In a democracy, that is disastrous."
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)rule the world. They have a natural advantage over people with weaknesses like a consciousness, compassion, and morality. It has pretty much been this way since at least the founding of agricultural civilization. The problem will be resolved soon if we weak folks don't wrest control from them before they destroy global civilization, and those of us who survive are living in tribes again.
Hugin
(33,222 posts)That's why the best way of dealing with Il Blob is to ignore him.
Gothmog
(145,839 posts)Grammy23
(5,815 posts)At that point, all the chickens will come home to roost. All the predictions of Trump's failure to lure back enough women, Hispanics and African American voters to win will come true. I hate to admit that I am licking my chops at the thought of a Trump concession speech, but I am. He has been so hateful, deceitful and full of lies and half truths, that the only fitting result should be a landslide loss in November. Utter defeat. He has set the terms for this election and he can live with the results. I will be popping some corn and preparing lots of snacks come election night 2016. I am willing to bet I won't be the only one.
Tab
(11,093 posts)He's a classic narcisstic sociopath.
'Cause, ya know, I don't want to impugne the pyschopaths out there.
Quixote1818
(29,018 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Basically he's just all self, ego. Thats it.
Quixote1818
(29,018 posts)Snip: Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard, disorganized and spontaneous rather than planned.
Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain peoples trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)but either way, there's something wrong with the dude.
braddy
(3,585 posts)competition and combativeness.
People mention how he would be just as wealthy, or richer, if he had done some kind of fund or something, but that isn't Trump.
Trump's entire life is fighting and beating people, he needs his emotional beat downs and triumphs, even if they cost him dearly in some way, as it has in the primary, which seems to be more of a gluttonous self indulgent feast of destruction and chaos for Trump than anything, Trump lives for these constant ego highs.
If Trump got into the White House he would be instantly bored with the day to day effort to maintain and project to the world, stability, as a president to 330 million Americans and as the most powerful man on earth, so how does this emotionally unstable man get his emotional fixes and highs, what instabilities and personal enemies would he introduce nationally and internationally so that he could fight and play in a chaotic sand box constantly, and maintain the passionate adoration of the (a) crowd, that he craves so badly?
I can't see Trump merely being a competent administrator and calming influence for 4 years, while sitting behind the desk in the Oval office.
ailsagirl
(22,907 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I love this so much, I'm going to post it again.
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)knew??
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Trump couldn't pass a memory test today.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)People refused to even entertain the idea because he was the President. Hey, old people get Alzheimer's, let's face the facts.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I think if you look up "narcissitic psychopath" on wikipedia, it has his picture.
houston16revival
(953 posts)she never laughed at anything, and certainly not at my dry, oft times sarcastic
sense of humor
Her only laughter was sadistic, which is also a tendency in some NPD cases