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I do not know if I even heard this right.. Paul Manafort SP? the top advisor to Trump.. has this history of working for the Russians oligarchs .. and Trump as the candidate for the the Republicans will start getting top secret information and advice.. from the goverment .. does anyone besides me think this is NOT a good thing..
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Tump really is an extinction level event.
Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)I am away from the TV right now.. but Trump and national secrets .. he opens his mouth and just lets it fly.. it is just mind boggling to think about.. and then to have his top advisor as a former Russian advisor to people.. someone pass the advil.. this is a headache of international proportions
kairos12
(12,892 posts)Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)I did not even put that together..
And he won't have the slightest idea about what he's looking at, anyway.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)ronnie624
(5,764 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Sounds like an exaggeration, doesnt it.
Problem is, this is the one guy that could make it come true.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)librechik
(30,678 posts)to be honest, presidents are fairly clueless about what the CIA, NSA,Congressional leadership etc. and their unelected or foreign friends are doing since the forties. If they know, (I'm looking at you, Bush Sr) then they are involved in the crimes directly.
Trump (except for the painful stupidity) wouldn't be any different than who we are since the cold war. Changing it would involve taking the government apart, piece by welded piece. I'm in for that, things are bad enough with our democracy gone. But how?
Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)carrying the secret codes.. chills me to the bone..
braddy
(3,585 posts)Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)Last edited Thu May 5, 2016, 06:15 PM - Edit history (1)
this manual, which will walk you through the steps required to launch the Nuclear Triad, and President Trump, all three legs are "the nuclear part"."
procon
(15,805 posts)Give Trumps unfiltered, extemporaneous style of speaking of the cuff, and his predilection for making outrageous claims based on debunked conspiracy theories he finds on the Intertubes, now he's going to have access to national secrets?
He can't control himself. He frequently says that he admires Putin and his wealthy Russian business pals, so
w0hat's to stop him from blurting out some secret report he learned in a classified briefing if he thinks it will boost his ratings on the campaign trail? Trump has often bragged of his close personal relationships with foreign leaders that are decided unfriendly to American interests.
Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)And now we find out that his number one helper has a history or working with the Russians.. sheesh..
Hekate
(90,978 posts)That's been out there for awhile, and hopefully will get more attention now.
Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)that is for sure!!
dmr
(28,352 posts)Just because someone gains the position of nominee doesn't mean that person is qualified for a high security clearance. Does the FBI perform even a minor vetting of the candidate, & his/her closet advisors?
I wondered about this when Sarah Palin was John McCain's running mate in '08. Especially since her husband was a member of an Alaskan group wanting to secede from the United States.
Seriously.
When I applied to a federal government position in the VA, they told me I had to be vetted.
My point is I had to be vetted. I passed because I've led a good citizen life.
Yet, there are stories out there that Trump has had dealings with organized crime. If those rumors are out there, wouldn't that warrant vetting? If true, how could he get a security clearance? A super-duper security clearnce, at that.
I'm puzzled and concerned.
Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)I completley forgot about the organized crime stories.. I was so stunned by this one
braddy
(3,585 posts)he heads the executive branch and makes his own rules.
As far as a nominee, which bureaucrat can cancel a party's candidate and just make null and void the Democrat or Republican presidential candidate?
TeamPooka
(24,286 posts)control all the building unions, the cement business and much more in the city.
You pay them and they let you build.
No pay, no building.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)JPZenger
(6,819 posts)I hope and expect that the CIA will be extra careful about what they tell Trump. Secrets are only shared on a "need to know" basis. They will give him enough information so he hopefully gets scared about making thoughtless comments about nuclear weapons, and so he hopefully develops real fear of his buddy Putin.
Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)He is such a wild card
TeamPooka
(24,286 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,503 posts)Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)it was so stunning
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)That's why I will be voting FOR the Democratic nominee.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Nor remember it!
Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)My biggest worry is he will blab it out sideways..
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)over the last GOPuke president.
Bucky
(54,088 posts)He's a security leak threat. Just cause he'll Twitter out wrong things about national secrets doesn't mean he's not a danger
thucythucy
(8,109 posts)They are both of them graduates of the Vito Corleone school of politics.
rockfordfile
(8,709 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)It's all Trump, all the time.
Petrushka
(3,709 posts)The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putins latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.
The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the worlds largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.
But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
Who else has "...this history of working for the Russian oligarchs ..."?
"Relying largely on research from the conservative author of Clinton Cash, todays New York Times alleges that donations to the Clinton Foundation coincided with the U.S. governments 2010 approval of the sale of a company known as Uranium One to the Russian government. Without presenting any direct evidence in support of the claim, the Times story like the book on which it is based wrongly suggests that Hillary Clintons State Department pushed for the sales approval to reward donors who had a financial interest in the deal. Ironically, buried within the story is original reporting that debunks the allegation that then-Secretary Clinton played any role in the review of the sale..."
MUCH more at link above.
Petrushka
(3,709 posts)That explains a lot.
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LuvLoogie
(7,066 posts)Trumps briefings will be kept to current operations the Russians are already aware of.
Hillary will only be informed of any changes in status in all that she peviously knew.