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CommonSenseDemocrat

(377 posts)
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:21 PM Jan 2016

Do you support the repeal of Medicaid/Obamacare/ERISA to institute Medicare for All?

Pretty self explanatory


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Yes
19 (86%)
No
1 (5%)
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Do you support the repeal of Medicaid/Obamacare/ERISA to institute Medicare for All? (Original Post) CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 OP
Not if it run by states. Which is what I think the real issue here is. boston bean Jan 2016 #1
That's clearly a made-up issue. Anything that sticks. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #3
I dont think its made up. boston bean Jan 2016 #9
So just to get this issue straight, if the proposal were instead a single federal administration Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #16
I think I would. I have always supported a federal single payer system. boston bean Jan 2016 #18
The states thing is an issue only because many are run by assholes who seek to randys1 Jan 2016 #27
Medicare for all would be Federal not State. bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #32
It semantics at this time because bernie has boston bean Jan 2016 #34
So you are not familiar with HR 676...... bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #35
Under HR 676 SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #36
Read sec 303 and familiarize yourself. boston bean Jan 2016 #37
So I'm trouble because I edited. My eyesight is not that good bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #39
Chelsea? EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #10
No. boston bean Jan 2016 #11
Hillary is that you? nt thereismore Jan 2016 #12
No. boston bean Jan 2016 #14
Is this the new camp attempt to bring the FUD to a standard Democratic Party Platform issue? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #15
No. Its the truth. boston bean Jan 2016 #17
I'm just wondering if the talking points from two days ago expired. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #19
Read what i wrote. That is what i meant. boston bean Jan 2016 #20
It's Medicare. You're conflating your bullshit with Medicare WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jan 2016 #23
So much anger. boston bean Jan 2016 #28
The Medicaid expansion has literally saved the lives of 3 of my friends.. mountain grammy Jan 2016 #2
Is there any way in the world it can pass? MattP Jan 2016 #4
Repeal? NO, elleng Jan 2016 #5
^^^^this right here-^^^^ nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #21
I agree. Keyword: evolve. Let it evolve. lamp_shade Jan 2016 #24
Yes, this ^^^ Wounded Bear Jan 2016 #31
No. bigwillq Jan 2016 #6
I am low income PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #7
It makes so much sense. Vinca Jan 2016 #8
I guess you thought that your "cleverly" worded push poll would have some other result. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #13
I'll just leave this here Z_California Jan 2016 #22
Better make sure we can enact Medicare for all before dismantling ACA. I don't think it will Hoyt Jan 2016 #25
Why would you have to repeal ERISA? BayouBengal07 Jan 2016 #26
Sequentially? Fuck that Orangepeel Jan 2016 #29
I'm in favor of single-payer SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #30
HR 676 bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #33
As long as the items not shared between Medicaid and Medicare jwirr Jan 2016 #38
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
16. So just to get this issue straight, if the proposal were instead a single federal administration
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jan 2016

program, you would then support it. Right?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
27. The states thing is an issue only because many are run by assholes who seek to
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jan 2016

harm their citizens.

We know that.

has to be a way to do it federally

boston bean

(36,225 posts)
34. It semantics at this time because bernie has
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jan 2016

Not provided his plan. We do know tha he introduced legislation nine times to let the states control it.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
35. So you are not familiar with HR 676......
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jan 2016

It would save over 5 Trillion.........you ease into it. As Bernie says it won't happen overnight but I say it will happen. You act like Bernie hasn't said anything about it. Do research.

boston bean

(36,225 posts)
37. Read sec 303 and familiarize yourself.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jan 2016

On edit, pointing out you edited your post.

Secondly, we already have this problem with the expansion of medicaid.

Sorry, i dont want governors controlling this.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
39. So I'm trouble because I edited. My eyesight is not that good
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jan 2016

and sometimes I type a word and it is not the word I wish to type. Just a thing when getting old.......I do believe that Bernie will not leave it up to the states although I did not know that it stated that regarding the states....thanks.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
19. I'm just wondering if the talking points from two days ago expired.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jan 2016

Are we still concerned about the 14 trillion dollars and the huge taxes, or have those concerns reached their expiration date?

mountain grammy

(26,673 posts)
2. The Medicaid expansion has literally saved the lives of 3 of my friends..
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jan 2016

Yes, yes, yes. Medicaid for everyone. Raise my taxes, whatever it takes! Fucking do it!

MattP

(3,304 posts)
4. Is there any way in the world it can pass?
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jan 2016

Im all for single payer but even with both houses we couldnt get it passed and i think with the jerry rigged districts there is no way it passes

elleng

(131,391 posts)
5. Repeal? NO,
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jan 2016

as it's probably not necessary to do so, but all the exploding heads on the issue are counter-productive, imo.

We need a new and newly evolving healthcare SYSTEM, as we have NO system now, and it will take time to establish such. In the meantime, we should develop realistic goals, and make changes toward establishing a Healthcare for ALL system gradually.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
6. No.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jan 2016

We must protect ObamaCare for Obama's legacy.
This medicare for all likely will not pass before the next election.
Do not tarnish Obama's signature piece of legislation.
Obama.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
7. I am low income
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jan 2016

so I am able to get the subsidized medicaid through the ACA for myself and child.

It is by far the best coverage I have ever had in my lifetime, way surpassing any corporate insurance plan I have had. If there is an issue that needs addressed I go in, get it taken care of, and walk out. End of story.

Vinca

(50,333 posts)
8. It makes so much sense.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jan 2016

Besides the avoidance of insurance company profiteering, we'd be combining quite a number of separate agencies into one, thus streamlining the process and probably costing a whole lot less.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
25. Better make sure we can enact Medicare for all before dismantling ACA. I don't think it will
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:04 PM
Jan 2016

pass right now. It -- or something like it -- is the thing to do, but if it won't pass . . . . . . We might get a public option.

BayouBengal07

(1,486 posts)
26. Why would you have to repeal ERISA?
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

I could see Title VII being tweaked, but Medicare for All wouldn't necessitate repealing the retirement provisions.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
29. Sequentially? Fuck that
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jan 2016

We'd end up with nothing as republicans in the house would be happy to vote to repeal but wouldn't replace.

I support adding an option to purchase Medicare through the exchanges, increased subsidies, and cost controls like O'Malley proposes.

http://www.vox.com/2015/11/24/9794622/martin-omalley-is-finally-talking-about-his-best-idea-health-care

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
30. I'm in favor of single-payer
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jan 2016

But I also believe that those who want to pay cash to get care outside of single payer should be permitted to. They still should have to pay the taxes that pay for single-payer, but if they don't want to use the system, fine. More money for the system for those who do use it.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
38. As long as the items not shared between Medicaid and Medicare
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 08:51 PM
Jan 2016

are included in Medicare for All. I am thinking about institutional care - Medicare pays for the first 180 days in a nursing home - after that you either pay it yourself or Medicaid pays for it if you cannot.

There is also the issue of medications (Part D?) that will need to be included. It does you no good to go to the doctor if you cannot afford the drugs the doctor tells you to take.

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