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woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
Thu May 31, 2012, 12:59 PM May 2012

Plate scanners raise privacy fears

http://www.policeone.com/police-products/traffic-enforcement/license-plate-readers/articles/5679548-Plate-scanners-raise-privacy-fears/

Plate scanners raise privacy fears

By Sarah Burge
The Press Enterprise

RIVERSIDE, Calif. — Police departments across the Inland area have embraced a new technology that helps officers on patrol to locate stolen cars, felony suspects and more by instantly scanning the license plate numbers of passing cars.

But as these license-plate scanners become more common here and across the country, a lesser-known use for the devices is raising concerns among privacy advocates. Some police departments are amassing the scans in bulging databases that can be used to track an individual's movements.

"That's very troubling," said Peter Bibring, a senior staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California. "What's happening is police departments are compiling databases of the movements of law-abiding citizens, or, at least, their cars. "It's one of the basic premises of privacy — the government should not be gathering information on innocuous activity."
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It allows officers to check far more plates than if they were entering the numbers manually [font color=blue] (um....apparently every one they pass). [/font color]When the computer finds a hit on a lost or stolen plate or a vehicle connected with a felony warrant, for instance, it alerts the officer.
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Plate scanners raise privacy fears (Original Post) woo me with science May 2012 OP
I am waiting for the day the government puts chips in all of us wheter we want it or not. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #1
How long until this technology is used to identify woo me with science May 2012 #2
They are probably working on that already. Sometimes I wish we could turn the clock back to southernyankeebelle May 2012 #3
I just flashed on a scene from Star Trek: Gidney N Cloyd May 2012 #7
LOL,HAHAHA That is what happens when we step out of line. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #12
Here ya go: not governments, but corporations dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #11
OMG, I wonder if they can force us to wear them? southernyankeebelle May 2012 #13
At some point down the road, I see that happening. dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #16
That is that funny little slippery slop I have been noticing. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #17
Cue the "I have nothing to hide.." people Gormy Cuss May 2012 #4
I've seen a couple of unmarked black police cars with this equipment mounted MineralMan May 2012 #5
This is part of what a police state looks like. Gold Metal Flake May 2012 #6
The best part? police scanner/cameras are owned by private corporations dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #14
That is a part of what fascism looks like. Gold Metal Flake May 2012 #15
riverside PD has a long ugly history - they are not your friend nt msongs May 2012 #8
Needs oversight. Robb May 2012 #9
Big Brother is already in Tiburon, CA with license plate cameras that record the plates of every veh AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #10
I saw one in Dallas area which lead to an arguement Dragonbreathp9d May 2012 #18

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
2. How long until this technology is used to identify
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:07 PM
May 2012

people late with their inspection stickers or car tax payments, or...

Instant, ubiquitious scans for compliance. The future of America.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
3. They are probably working on that already. Sometimes I wish we could turn the clock back to
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:12 PM
May 2012

the days of Mayberry when life seemed easier without so much technology.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. Here ya go: not governments, but corporations
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:58 PM
May 2012
Hospitals Using Microchips To Keep Tabs On Newborns
POSTED: 2:15 pm PST February 7, 2007

Snip:
Now, some hospitals have been looking at radio identification tags that could be implanted under the skin of some patients.
By implanting such a chip with a patient’s medical record, hospitals and emergency workers could immediately gain access to an ill or injured person’s medical history regardless of location.
http://www.10news.com/health/10956654/detail.html

and there are several "chip" corporations that have developed micro chips to detect problems in the body
http://www.positiveidcorp.com/products.html
and to track people's medical records/info
http://www.positiveidcorp.com/

Problem is, no one has any idea of the long term effects of RFID chips .


dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
16. At some point down the road, I see that happening.
Thu May 31, 2012, 05:37 PM
May 2012

right now it is being presented as a way to "help you" with a problem you did not realize you had..ie: medical record access, mesuring glucose in your body, etc.
remember that when the carmakers put black boxes in cars, they were quiet about it,
until the infor got out, then the insurance industry stepped in and said it was to "help you" if you had an insurance claim in a car wreck.

And the GPS system which is also in cars...that was marketed to "help you" find you way around
( what the hell ???? people so dumb they cannot drive a car on their own any more?)
but, turns out the GPS is also used to track you, just like a cell phone, which tracks you even when it is turned off
( you have to take the battery out to kill the tracker)

and now anyone who arrested for anything, even if they are let go without charge later, has to give biometric data which goes into the every growing data banks...

I believe that soon you will have to give biometric info to get a driver's license/renewal.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
4. Cue the "I have nothing to hide.." people
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:15 PM
May 2012

who can't look forward to the possible negative consequences of giving up privacy.

MineralMan

(146,345 posts)
5. I've seen a couple of unmarked black police cars with this equipment mounted
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:17 PM
May 2012

discreetly on the cars near my home in St. Paul, MN. The cars are parked alongside the road and are scanning passing vehicles. I'm not exactly sure why. They could be watching for stolen vehicles or something else. I'm also not sure what agency they belong to, since the place I saw them was on a street that marks the border between St. Paul and another city. They could be State Patrol, as well.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. The best part? police scanner/cameras are owned by private corporations
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:37 PM
May 2012

who manage the devices...for a fee.
Just Google "Police Camera systems" and see all the companies which pop up.

Everything is being privatized.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
9. Needs oversight.
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:32 PM
May 2012

A verified system that deletes information on vehicles that aren't actively being searched for would solve the privacy issue. Easy to say, hard to implement.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
10. Big Brother is already in Tiburon, CA with license plate cameras that record the plates of every veh
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:51 PM
May 2012

In every city that has "red light cameras," such cameras can easily be modified to read and record every license plate of all vehicles that cross their paths.

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