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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Thu May 31, 2012, 10:39 AM May 2012

ABC News: RNC Says a Tuesday Walker Win Means ‘Lights Out for Barack Obama’

The Republican National Committee had some strong talk about their chances next week in the Wisconsin recall and what a victory for Gov. Scott Walker would mean for their state’s going red in November.

“Certainly [if] Wisconsin goes red, I think it’s lights out for Barack Obama,” said RNC Chairman and Wisconsinite Reince Priebus on Wednesday.

This is on the heels of a new Marquette University Law School poll showing Walker over Milwaukee mayor Tom Barrett by 7 points, 52% to 45%. Despite their tough talk, it’s not so cut and dry that a Walker win would automatically mean an Obama loss. The same survey also shows President Obama over Mitt Romney 51% to 43%.

This comes on the same day Democratic National Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz visited Wisconsin to campaign with Barrett. According to the Milwaukee Wisconsin Journal Sentinel she said the party was “putting all of our effort into this fight.” “Scott Walker has worked hard to make sure that people think that he’s the rock star of the right-wing tea-party extremism that the Republican Party has allowed to take them over,” Wasserman Schultz said. “And that is not what voters in Wisconsin want to see happen.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/rnc-says-a-tuesday-walker-win-means-lights-out-for-barack-obama/

The RNC is either optimistic about the vote or thinks that thinks that is the "face" they should put on at this point in the run up to the election. Hopefully, this statement will be that much more egg on their face by next week.

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ABC News: RNC Says a Tuesday Walker Win Means ‘Lights Out for Barack Obama’ (Original Post) pampango May 2012 OP
And yet the DNC Chairwoman says Wisconsin has no effect on the rest of the 2012 elections bigdarryl May 2012 #1
lolz Pointing and laughing (again) JNelson6563 May 2012 #8
Already rationalizing a loss in Wisconsin? Bake May 2012 #18
Um, no. Where'd you pull that out of? I can guess. JNelson6563 May 2012 #31
Oh come on. Like she's really going to say anything else? TheWraith May 2012 #23
None of their power brokers are there, they could care less about WI uponit7771 May 2012 #2
If the Democratic party is putting all of their effort into this fight tularetom May 2012 #3
Well, take her at her word. This -is- ALL their effort ... the take away lessons would be: HereSince1628 May 2012 #14
I worry about that clerk who counts/hides the actual votes. Thought she wasn't going monmouth May 2012 #17
First off, the DNC is putting in a shitload of work. TheWraith May 2012 #25
You're right it isn't "Obama's job" to see that Walker is defeated tularetom May 2012 #29
I could give a rat's ass about what Reince Priebus asserts. Ellipsis May 2012 #4
EXACTLY!! Just like the made up numbers for the jobs Mitt Romney created. Rinse Penis is insane! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #5
Well of course they would say that. JNelson6563 May 2012 #6
+1000! bigtree May 2012 #7
Yep. Thank you! Ship of Fools May 2012 #22
PRECISELY. TheWraith May 2012 #26
Reince Priebus assets 1 to 2% vote fraud = seven-thousandths-of-one-percent of the ballots cast Ellipsis May 2012 #9
Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award rocktivity May 2012 #10
Reince Priebus asserts he has overly large penis Ellipsis May 2012 #11
Unfortunetly they wouldn't be saying this if they didn't feel confident that Walker will win... WI_DEM May 2012 #12
Bullshit... They are trying to subvert turnout... they know the election boils down to turn out. Ellipsis May 2012 #13
So to the RNC Wisconsin is the pivot point? SoutherDem May 2012 #15
not only that treestar May 2012 #27
The RNC would assert that the sky is green Arkana May 2012 #16
when all you will accept is a fail, everything becomes a fail. librechik May 2012 #19
2008 Indiana Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #20
An event in June will decide the election. WilliamPitt May 2012 #21
Moronic treestar May 2012 #24
Rush Limbaugh was saying the same thing on his radio show today... kentuck May 2012 #28
What's that? Koch Industries bought the RNC too? think May 2012 #30
and also, according to the rnc, a loss for walker means absolutely nothing whatsoever. spanone May 2012 #32
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
1. And yet the DNC Chairwoman says Wisconsin has no effect on the rest of the 2012 elections
Thu May 31, 2012, 10:45 AM
May 2012

Talk about BRAIN DEAD I used to like Debbie but she is INCOMPETENT in that DNC position the RETHUGS will tie this election lost by our side to Obama and the stinking media will let the rethugs get away with it

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
8. lolz Pointing and laughing (again)
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:03 AM
May 2012

You will go with a GOP press release that is pure propaganda to try to beat the DNC with? lolz Your desperation's showing, again.

I imagine this will worsen as we get closer to November. If nothing else there's always the comic relief you offer up pretty regularly.

Julie

Bake

(21,977 posts)
18. Already rationalizing a loss in Wisconsin?
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:36 PM
May 2012

Screw the Pukes and what they say.

Wisconsin is CRITICAL. Perhaps a bellwether. If we lose Wisonsin, the sh*t is getting deep.

Bake

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
31. Um, no. Where'd you pull that out of? I can guess.
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:35 PM
May 2012

I fully expect a win in Wisconsin. I have a great deal of faith in my fellow Progressives across the lake. They make shit happen!

Julie

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
23. Oh come on. Like she's really going to say anything else?
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:15 PM
May 2012

What, you expect her to go out and say "Yeah, if Walker wins, it's the end of the world as we know it. Might as well all kill ourselves."

Newsflash: she's pretty much right. There's no reason to assume that a special gubernatorial election in Wisconsin is going to define how the presidential election in six months is going to go.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. If the Democratic party is putting all of their effort into this fight
Thu May 31, 2012, 10:53 AM
May 2012

Why hasn't the President been spending every spare hour in Wisconsin? Why hasn't former Pres. Clinton appeared there?

Obama doesn't seem too worried that a Walker win means lights out for him.

It will be a shame if Walker wins this because Obama is apparently very popular in the state and he could easily tip the scales in Barrett's favor with a little bit of work.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
14. Well, take her at her word. This -is- ALL their effort ... the take away lessons would be:
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:44 AM
May 2012

1) The DNC hasn't got much.


3) People facing regional & state issues that have national significance can't expect the DNC to help.


2) Not having much is a serious problem for the leadership role of the DNC since all politics are local.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
17. I worry about that clerk who counts/hides the actual votes. Thought she wasn't going
Thu May 31, 2012, 12:45 PM
May 2012

to be a part of the counting action, now she is...

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
25. First off, the DNC is putting in a shitload of work.
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:17 PM
May 2012

Second, it's not always useful or desired for a President to insert himself into a campaign. Case in point, a sitting president has NEVER, EVER campaigned for a candidate in a recall election.

The premise that "Obama's not doing enough!" is simply a failure to understand that it's not Obama's job to do everything.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
29. You're right it isn't "Obama's job" to see that Walker is defeated
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:28 PM
May 2012

However, things add up. And it is definitely in Obama's best interest to see that republican governors, especially ones like Walker, are removed from office. They can appoint senators to vacant seats, they can undercut federal programs like health care reform, and they can invalidate economic and environmental reforms that have resulted in decades of progress.

And it is essential to the president's re-election prospects that this recall election is conducted with fairness, honesty and integrity. Otherwise, it will be just a prelude for a stolen presidential election in November.

Of course, none of this is his "job". But the good people of Wisconsin have worked their asses off for over a year in support of the agenda that Obama purports to advocate. The least he could do is to acknowledge their efforts and give them some props.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
4. I could give a rat's ass about what Reince Priebus asserts.
Thu May 31, 2012, 10:56 AM
May 2012

They make up fake news and you guys bite on it.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
6. Well of course they would say that.
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

And this would be something our corporate media propagates. Of course if Obama was to do unlike any other sitting President in history and get involved in a state recall vote they'd actually be accurate in tying the results of that election to him.

Thank bob it isn't a bunch of political novices running the Obama campaign. If he'd listened to the most ignorant (and often loudest) of DUers he'd own this recall election, damn the consequences. Bunch of little kids who think the future is the next 20 minutes.

Julie

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
26. PRECISELY.
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:19 PM
May 2012

Anybody in this position is going to spin a win as the best news since the creation of the world, and a loss as nothing at all. You'd think people who watch politics as obsessively as DUers would have picked up on that by now.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
9. Reince Priebus assets 1 to 2% vote fraud = seven-thousandths-of-one-percent of the ballots cast
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:04 AM
May 2012

The head of the Republican National Committee says voter fraud in Wisconsin is far more common than what the record shows. Reince Priebus told reporters in a conference call yesterday that he saw vote fraud happen when he chaired the State GOP. And he said fraud accounts for at least one-or-two percent of the total vote that a winner has to overcome – something Governor Scott Walker recently told the Weekly Standard. But newspapers in Milwaukee and Appleton have pointed out that a bi-partisan task force only found evidence of vote fraud in seven-thousandths-of-one-percent of the ballots cast for president in Wisconsin in 2008. And one-to-two-percent fraud would mean that an average of 6-to-12 ballots cast in every single voting ward in Wisconsin would have to be faulty. Richard Saks, an attorney who recently won a court case that struck down Wisconsin’s voter ID law, said Priebus and the Republicans have no evidence to substantiate their claims of massive fraud. Saks told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel quote, “It’s simply demagoguery to whip up fear.” Walker softened his recent remarks in Manitowoc yesterday, saying he didn’t have any reason to agree or disagree with what Priebus said. Walker said we’ve seen problems with vote fraud in the past – but he says doesn’t know what percentage to predict for it.

rocktivity

(44,583 posts)
10. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:07 AM
May 2012

What ELSE would you expect the RNC to say? And more to the point, what else you expect the DNC to say?


rocktivity

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
12. Unfortunetly they wouldn't be saying this if they didn't feel confident that Walker will win...
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:18 AM
May 2012

Obama still should come to Wisconsin or Biden if he doesn't want to.

I still say that if turnout is at record levels the Dems can win it.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
13. Bullshit... They are trying to subvert turnout... they know the election boils down to turn out.
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:23 AM
May 2012

That's why the signs, the press releases and the fake news, and polls over-sampling conservatives, tapping the phrase "likely voter" etc.

Just Vote and it will be a democratic victory.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
15. So to the RNC Wisconsin is the pivot point?
Thu May 31, 2012, 12:12 PM
May 2012

Obama loses Wisconsin he loses election?
Well, yesterday I heard it was Ohio.
Last week it was Florida.

While I will agree several of those together would be bad I don't understand how people put the whole game on one state. If this were true why do the rest of us need to vote?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. not only that
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:20 PM
May 2012

the election isn't a normal election. It's about recalling someone who they already voted in before. It's likely to have low turnout, like the Coakley and Brown election which also meant Obama's downfall.

Some people are so focused on and obsessed with the President. They see everything in terms of the President.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
16. The RNC would assert that the sky is green
Thu May 31, 2012, 12:31 PM
May 2012

if they thought they could get away with it.

There are polls that show Obama leading Romney in the state despite the recall. Rinse Penis is being disingenuous at best.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,450 posts)
20. 2008 Indiana
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:42 PM
May 2012

went for Daniels for Governor and Obama for POTUS, so......??? Apparently RP hasn't heard of the concept of split-ticket voting. California has never gone Republican for POTUS even when a Republican won the governorship.

It's amazing the mental gymnastics the RNC- and RP in particular- is able to perform to get to a Walker win=Romney win. I'm thinking that maybe even a Walker win might INCREASE the likelihood of an Obama win since Wisconsin Dems will still be upset and angry at Walker and could turnout in bigger numbers for state races- to ensure more Democrats in the state legislature to oppose Walker's agenda (and will likely vote for Obama for POTUS as well).

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. Moronic
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:16 PM
May 2012

Why would Wisconsinites choice of whether to recall their governor have any effect whatsoever on voters in the other 49 states, and even Wisconsin voters in an election six months from now, between Obama and Rmoney over the Presidency of the entire country?

This kind of crap is so stupid. People who gets jobs on the teepee need to be picked better.

And of course if Walker loses - that won't mean a damn thing, will it?

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
28. Rush Limbaugh was saying the same thing on his radio show today...
Thu May 31, 2012, 02:20 PM
May 2012

It's a big battle. It's bad news if the Repubs win Wisconsin. Really bad news...
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