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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsABC News: RNC Says a Tuesday Walker Win Means ‘Lights Out for Barack Obama’
The Republican National Committee had some strong talk about their chances next week in the Wisconsin recall and what a victory for Gov. Scott Walker would mean for their states going red in November.
Certainly [if] Wisconsin goes red, I think its lights out for Barack Obama, said RNC Chairman and Wisconsinite Reince Priebus on Wednesday.
This is on the heels of a new Marquette University Law School poll showing Walker over Milwaukee mayor Tom Barrett by 7 points, 52% to 45%. Despite their tough talk, its not so cut and dry that a Walker win would automatically mean an Obama loss. The same survey also shows President Obama over Mitt Romney 51% to 43%.
This comes on the same day Democratic National Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz visited Wisconsin to campaign with Barrett. According to the Milwaukee Wisconsin Journal Sentinel she said the party was putting all of our effort into this fight. Scott Walker has worked hard to make sure that people think that hes the rock star of the right-wing tea-party extremism that the Republican Party has allowed to take them over, Wasserman Schultz said. And that is not what voters in Wisconsin want to see happen.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/rnc-says-a-tuesday-walker-win-means-lights-out-for-barack-obama/
The RNC is either optimistic about the vote or thinks that thinks that is the "face" they should put on at this point in the run up to the election. Hopefully, this statement will be that much more egg on their face by next week.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Talk about BRAIN DEAD I used to like Debbie but she is INCOMPETENT in that DNC position the RETHUGS will tie this election lost by our side to Obama and the stinking media will let the rethugs get away with it
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)You will go with a GOP press release that is pure propaganda to try to beat the DNC with? lolz Your desperation's showing, again.
I imagine this will worsen as we get closer to November. If nothing else there's always the comic relief you offer up pretty regularly.
Julie
Bake
(21,977 posts)Screw the Pukes and what they say.
Wisconsin is CRITICAL. Perhaps a bellwether. If we lose Wisonsin, the sh*t is getting deep.
Bake
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)I fully expect a win in Wisconsin. I have a great deal of faith in my fellow Progressives across the lake. They make shit happen!
Julie
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)What, you expect her to go out and say "Yeah, if Walker wins, it's the end of the world as we know it. Might as well all kill ourselves."
Newsflash: she's pretty much right. There's no reason to assume that a special gubernatorial election in Wisconsin is going to define how the presidential election in six months is going to go.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Why hasn't the President been spending every spare hour in Wisconsin? Why hasn't former Pres. Clinton appeared there?
Obama doesn't seem too worried that a Walker win means lights out for him.
It will be a shame if Walker wins this because Obama is apparently very popular in the state and he could easily tip the scales in Barrett's favor with a little bit of work.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)1) The DNC hasn't got much.
3) People facing regional & state issues that have national significance can't expect the DNC to help.
2) Not having much is a serious problem for the leadership role of the DNC since all politics are local.
monmouth
(21,078 posts)to be a part of the counting action, now she is...
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)Second, it's not always useful or desired for a President to insert himself into a campaign. Case in point, a sitting president has NEVER, EVER campaigned for a candidate in a recall election.
The premise that "Obama's not doing enough!" is simply a failure to understand that it's not Obama's job to do everything.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)However, things add up. And it is definitely in Obama's best interest to see that republican governors, especially ones like Walker, are removed from office. They can appoint senators to vacant seats, they can undercut federal programs like health care reform, and they can invalidate economic and environmental reforms that have resulted in decades of progress.
And it is essential to the president's re-election prospects that this recall election is conducted with fairness, honesty and integrity. Otherwise, it will be just a prelude for a stolen presidential election in November.
Of course, none of this is his "job". But the good people of Wisconsin have worked their asses off for over a year in support of the agenda that Obama purports to advocate. The least he could do is to acknowledge their efforts and give them some props.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)They make up fake news and you guys bite on it.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)And this would be something our corporate media propagates. Of course if Obama was to do unlike any other sitting President in history and get involved in a state recall vote they'd actually be accurate in tying the results of that election to him.
Thank bob it isn't a bunch of political novices running the Obama campaign. If he'd listened to the most ignorant (and often loudest) of DUers he'd own this recall election, damn the consequences. Bunch of little kids who think the future is the next 20 minutes.
Julie
bigtree
(86,013 posts)Ship of Fools
(1,453 posts)TheWraith
(24,331 posts)Anybody in this position is going to spin a win as the best news since the creation of the world, and a loss as nothing at all. You'd think people who watch politics as obsessively as DUers would have picked up on that by now.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)The head of the Republican National Committee says voter fraud in Wisconsin is far more common than what the record shows. Reince Priebus told reporters in a conference call yesterday that he saw vote fraud happen when he chaired the State GOP. And he said fraud accounts for at least one-or-two percent of the total vote that a winner has to overcome something Governor Scott Walker recently told the Weekly Standard. But newspapers in Milwaukee and Appleton have pointed out that a bi-partisan task force only found evidence of vote fraud in seven-thousandths-of-one-percent of the ballots cast for president in Wisconsin in 2008. And one-to-two-percent fraud would mean that an average of 6-to-12 ballots cast in every single voting ward in Wisconsin would have to be faulty. Richard Saks, an attorney who recently won a court case that struck down Wisconsins voter ID law, said Priebus and the Republicans have no evidence to substantiate their claims of massive fraud. Saks told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel quote, Its simply demagoguery to whip up fear. Walker softened his recent remarks in Manitowoc yesterday, saying he didnt have any reason to agree or disagree with what Priebus said. Walker said weve seen problems with vote fraud in the past but he says doesnt know what percentage to predict for it.
rocktivity
(44,583 posts)What ELSE would you expect the RNC to say? And more to the point, what else you expect the DNC to say?
rocktivity
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Obama still should come to Wisconsin or Biden if he doesn't want to.
I still say that if turnout is at record levels the Dems can win it.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)That's why the signs, the press releases and the fake news, and polls over-sampling conservatives, tapping the phrase "likely voter" etc.
Just Vote and it will be a democratic victory.
SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)Obama loses Wisconsin he loses election?
Well, yesterday I heard it was Ohio.
Last week it was Florida.
While I will agree several of those together would be bad I don't understand how people put the whole game on one state. If this were true why do the rest of us need to vote?
treestar
(82,383 posts)the election isn't a normal election. It's about recalling someone who they already voted in before. It's likely to have low turnout, like the Coakley and Brown election which also meant Obama's downfall.
Some people are so focused on and obsessed with the President. They see everything in terms of the President.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)if they thought they could get away with it.
There are polls that show Obama leading Romney in the state despite the recall. Rinse Penis is being disingenuous at best.
librechik
(30,678 posts)Again, RNC: fuck off you dicks.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,450 posts)went for Daniels for Governor and Obama for POTUS, so......??? Apparently RP hasn't heard of the concept of split-ticket voting. California has never gone Republican for POTUS even when a Republican won the governorship.
It's amazing the mental gymnastics the RNC- and RP in particular- is able to perform to get to a Walker win=Romney win. I'm thinking that maybe even a Walker win might INCREASE the likelihood of an Obama win since Wisconsin Dems will still be upset and angry at Walker and could turnout in bigger numbers for state races- to ensure more Democrats in the state legislature to oppose Walker's agenda (and will likely vote for Obama for POTUS as well).
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)OK.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Why would Wisconsinites choice of whether to recall their governor have any effect whatsoever on voters in the other 49 states, and even Wisconsin voters in an election six months from now, between Obama and Rmoney over the Presidency of the entire country?
This kind of crap is so stupid. People who gets jobs on the teepee need to be picked better.
And of course if Walker loses - that won't mean a damn thing, will it?
kentuck
(111,110 posts)It's a big battle. It's bad news if the Repubs win Wisconsin. Really bad news...
think
(11,641 posts)or is it?