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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsm$nbc just reported the koch brothers are giving FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS to romney.
thank you, supreme court
hlthe2b
(102,491 posts)perhaps only surpassed by the thoughts I am having now towards five on the USSC
spanone
(135,919 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)What could they do with it? Have Walker Parades? Have non-stop commercials on every cable outlet in the country?
After a certain point, the opposite effect will rise to the fore -people will tire of Walker and be less likely to vote for him.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)To know him is to dislike him. His own party dislikes him. Only the .001% can stand the guy.
The more he's in our faces, the more we'll be cringing every day.
randome
(34,845 posts)Yeah, I don't see the point. A lot of money might buy you the election. But tons and tons of money might buy you a pass to the 'Meh' farm.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Oops, I mean Amercia.
Mayflower1
(100 posts)SolutionisSolidarity
(606 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)See, both sides do it and George Soros is *scary* right?
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)This year he's in for 2 million so far and it's to grassroots organizing groups not Obama's campaign.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9252906/US-election-2012-George-Soros-backs-Democrats.html
Tell us more about how both sides are the same...it's one of my favorite fairy tales
Julie
pa28
(6,145 posts)I should really use the sarcasm thingie more often.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)JHB
(37,163 posts)...may I assume you were being sarcastic?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)uponit7771
(90,370 posts)spanone
(135,919 posts)POLITICO has learned that Koch-related organizations plan to spend about $400 million ahead of the 2012 elections - twice what they had been expected to commit.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76849.html#ixzz1wNZS1G4L
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Because taxes are evil.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)It's about the power. Government should never be more powerful than they are.
Gold Metal Flake
(13,805 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)america will get the best president money can buy. usa! usa! usa!-
DFW
(54,476 posts)This is what Cheney selected him to the bench for, and Roberts is doing what he promised.
His kids probably have some hefty trust funds set up for them, laying in some lawyer's to-do box in Wichita.
Alito was saying "that's not true" during Obama's SOTU speech when he warned against exactly what is nowhappening.
Of course, these days, his line is more a smug "that's too bad."
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,352 posts)That was the other smarmy prick.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)They aren't creating anything with their money but political propaganda. Just another reason to tax them to the hilt and then some.
Initech
(100,129 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,775 posts)NotThisTime
(3,657 posts)spanone
(135,919 posts)CanonRay
(14,132 posts)I always liked Orwell.
UTUSN
(70,779 posts)Raven
(13,907 posts)CrispyQ
(36,552 posts)I think it's time to pull that old fave bumper sticker out again.
malaise
(269,254 posts)ReTHUG
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)Fun while it lasted that "Freedom and Liberty"
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)this is simply another testament to that fact.
kitt6
(516 posts)I'm going to read how, why the founders created the electoral college. They may have had some serious doubts about the voters minds. I mean who would sit around and watch/believe these ads?
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)progress2k12nbynd
(221 posts)We all know alot of money is spent on elections but noone, not even the KKKoch's, would drop $400m on a single candidate.
Gman
(24,780 posts)They will throw EVERYTHING at Obama.
Lucky Luciano
(11,267 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,352 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)Blue Owl
(50,547 posts)Our democracy is really more of a business.
RZM
(8,556 posts)400 million seemed like a lot to me, even for people like the Kochs.
Apparently their combined net worth is about 50 billion. So 400 million is less than 1 percent of their fortune. It's the equivalent of a family worth $50K donating $400 to a campaign.
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)This is all so ridiculous!
spanone
(135,919 posts)progressoid
(50,011 posts)Volaris
(10,278 posts)Can we please aggravate the hell out of the Democratic Party and get a Publicly-Funded Elections plank inserted into the party platform? Cause THAT would be awesome, and the GOP would have NO political defense against such an argument.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)so they can compete...
or so the networks can get wealthier?
lpbk2713
(42,772 posts)... or the 2012 equivalent thereof.
And just think of all the elections that much money could steal.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)DFab420
(2,466 posts)rustydog
(9,186 posts)It won't be Secretary of State Trump saying: "President Romney, the nation is under attack"
You can bet it is one of the Koch brothers with marching orders.
No one NO ONE gives hundreds of thousands let alone hundreds of millions to a political candidate without believing their call will be taken, their wants WILL be addressed to their satisfaction. period.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)And it's voluntary.
Bear with me...it makes it easier to juxtapose our differences. All we need are political ads asking why people should think he is on their side, while bank-rolled by such rich benefactors. We really could ride a populism wave unlike anything we have ever seen! If this is the reality we fight in, then so be it.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)I'm hoping you're right...it'd be very satisfying to see these rich bastidges spend a ton of money and get nothing in return, but I also see a lot of apathy out there. Sadly I see it right here on DU where people are lukewarm in their support of the party and going to "punish" President Obama or whomever by not donating or volunteering to work in the upcoming election. This is shaping up to be an election of the haves vs. the havenots...and the haves are hungrier at this point.
slor
(5,504 posts)believe me, I will continue trying to educate people, because I am doubtful of my own hopes.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)Wisconsin is proof of the power of money. Walker should be down 15-20, but instead he's on course to win. A GOP landslide and three-tier rule will absolutely be the result if this isn't met by the billionaires who claim to be liberal when the camera rolls.
I understand why on an ethical level Buffett etc might not want to donate, but what's the alternative? Citizens United becoming enshrined and the backing of Koch co. becoming the only way to win elections. They must know that.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)With that much donated, all the media will talk about is the Koch's and the money, and not Romney.
That may also be enough to get people that may have been leaning toward Romney to vote against him.
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)They have the money and are complicit in the effects a Romney Presidency would have on middle and low income Americans - not to mention the rest of the world - if they decide not to. Donate now, or CU and perpetual right wing rule is the future.
Future Democratic Presidential nominees would HAVE to lurch far, far right in order to stand the slightest chance. That would be the ONLY way to have a hope of gaining the support of Koch & co, something that would be more or less essential; Romney wins this, their endorsement is the only way to win every single election from herein.
It's no good these characters whining about paying too mch tax and wanting an end to Citizens United if they're going to let it win this election for Romney. Indeed, doing little or nothing could be seen as a tacit endorsement of the policy, their protestations against it little more than a cynical ploy toe sure that they remain well-liked by what they consider the cool crowd.
lookingfortruth
(263 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Mitt has to report it, doesn't he??
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)Meg Whitman tried to spend her way to victory. It wasn't successful. The Koch's didn't use any of that money to create jobs, now it will be freed up for the advertising community.
RZM
(8,556 posts)Whitman spent a pretty penny and ended up with nothing to show for it.