Fingerprints reveal that TWO of the Paris suicide bombers entered Europe through Greece

[CJCRANE]

Fingerprints now reveal that TWO of the Paris suicide bombers had entered Europe through Greece a month before the attacks

EXCERPT:

Fingerprints have revealed that two of the Stade de France suicide bombers had entered Europe through Greece last month.

The France v Germany friendly international football match was abandoned after three jihadists blew themselves up outside the ground, as part of a number of attacks in Paris which killed 130 people.

Two of the bombers were Ahmed al Mohammad and Bilal Hafdi. The third person has not been identified.

LINK:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3327928/Fingerprints-reveal-TWO-Paris-suicide-bombers-entered-Europe-Greece-month-attacks.html

[uppityperson]

1. It's good that are finding enough to iID them

[Ghost Dog]

2. The Daily Mail is a sensationanlist rag, but does at least employ some investigative

newshounds and reporters, mostly, of course, looking for sensational stories such as involving celebraties scandalously cavorting amongst the super-rich on Greek and Turkish islands in the Aegean, so let's turn to the BBC source this morning, which is one among a list of explainer items on the front page and by no means a headline: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34832512 (My comments in italics)

'Ahmad al-Mohammad' (False name)

At the scene a Syrian passport was found which bore this name, suggesting the man was a 25-year-old from the Syrian city of Idlib, but authorities believe this passport was a fake. A report in a Serbian newspaper, Blic, said a passport bearing the same name and data - but a different image - had been found on another migrant, suggesting both men bought fake documents from the same counterfeiter.

The Paris prosecutor's office said fingerprints from the dead attacker matched those of a person who came to Europe with migrants via the Greek island of Leros. The man may have been posing as a Syrian refugee.

Records from Leros suggested he arrived on 3 October and was fingerprinted and photographed. (Did this person register as a refugee, as a refugee must do on first arrival in the EU?)

Bilal Hadfi

The French national was residing in Belgium. Belgian prosecutors have said they were aware he had gone to fight with IS in Syria but did not know he had returned. (No mention of fingerprints or photographs)

(So, yes, it looks like both these could have entered the EU from Turkey on a regular ferry service amongst people declaring themsleves a refugees on the island of Leros. But it is not clear that they passed themselves off as refugees. Once inside the EU, at least Hadfi could move freely using his EU country passport. But passports would not be likely checked once inside the Schengen area.. Perhaps they used false passports on entry into the EU so as to avoid detection (this is all computerised). For all we know of ·Ahmad al-Mohammad'·, the name on a false passport, he could also be an EU citizen. This is posing as refugees at an underfunded, understaffed (austerity) Greek small-town frontier post, probably without bothering to wait in a queue to complete the formalities. All this, of course, has nothing to do with the genuine cases of genuine refugees from a recently drought-stricken land engaged in a civil war which has now turned into an international UNSC-approved actual kind of Crusade! (Although, and this is significant, without any kind of blessing from the actual Catholic Pope; indeed, far from it). The making of a huge issue of this is entirely, it seems to me, a matter of US domestic politics and reflects a deep national sense of unease, foreboding and existential insecurity, I am very sorry to have to say).

[CJCRANE]

3. IMO both the mainstream left and right are wrong.

I don't agree with rushing the migrants into Europe and America, nor do I agree with putting western troops on the ground.

Isis said a while a go that they want to flood Europe with migrants and sneak terrorists in under cover of the chaos.

The recent migrant issue appears to have been contrived by our allies releasing refugees from the camps and lobby groups giving them information on how to get to Europe.

Merkel of course then contravened the Dublin protocol and allowed the refugees to be expedited into the heart of Europe.

Western leaders are hitting us with the quadruple whammy of austerity + mass immigration to further degrade the social safety night / western welfare state and increase civil disturbances + increased surveillance and police state powers + more spending on war and military activity.

I don't believe a single word from either the left or right mainstream talking heads that we see on the TV. Their reassurances mean nothing, as they have done nothing to earn our trust and ignored repeated threats by the terrorists and warnings by their own citizens and intelligence agencies.

[ericson00]

4. well said. The ideological fights over a safety issue are truly demeaning to real discourse

and fucking dangerous. +1000

[Ghost Dog]

5. Absolutely.

... Western leaders are hitting us with the quadruple whammy of austerity + mass immigration to further degrade the social safety night / western welfare state and increase civil disturbances + increased surveillance and police state powers + more spending on war and military activity...

And it's clearly part of an orchestrated policy within the 'Global Financial System', but who, if anyone, conducts the orchestra?

There is of course 'creative speculation', if I may draw your attention to this, without prejudice: http://www.democraticunderground.com/113510810