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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStray Cats Guard Chicago Brewery, Protect Precious Beer Grain From Rats
Source: DNAinfo Chicago, October 30, 2015
RAVENSWOOD If you're a brewery and you've got rodents chewing through 50-pound bags of expensive grain, who you gonna call?
Ghostbusters.
Meet Venkman, Raymond, Egon and Gozer Empirical Brewery's "Ghostbusters"-named feral cat colony, adopted in December through the Tree House Humane Society's Cats at Work program.
"If a brewer says they don't have rats, they're lying," said Bill Hurley, owner of Empirical, 1801 W. Foster Ave.
Rodents are attracted to the extremely high-quality grain that breweries stock by the truckload. To the rats, it's like a "giant block of cheese," Hurley said.
Empirical hired an exterminator to pay regular visits to the brewery, but still found itself throwing money out the window in the form of gnawed-on bags of barley.
Enter Tree House, which has moved 264 feral cats within Chicago and 130 in the suburbs, according to Jenny Schlueter, manager of Cats at Work.
Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151030/ravenswood/cats-patrol-north-side-brewery-protect-precious-beer-grain-from-rats
Link to distillerycats instagram: https://instagram.com/distillerycats/
Cats at Work factsheet: http://www.treehouseanimals.org/site/DocServer/Cats_at_Work_FactSheet_2014.pdf?docID=741
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)K&R.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)niyad
(113,597 posts)Warpy
(111,367 posts)the public health inspectors developing selective blindness unless they were badly kept.
I'd think bakeries and breweries would be the best places to keep working cats.
starroute
(12,977 posts)And in restaurant basements, particularly in New York City.
dembotoz
(16,852 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)...but did you notice the pyramid shape on the logo in the first picture? WE FOUND THE CULPRITS! Grain thieves, the lot of them!
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Nice cat house too. It seems the working kittens are well looked after
Purrr!
Midnight Writer
(21,816 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)They all look good.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Response to Logical (Reply #9)
1000words This message was self-deleted by its author.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)We can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't pounce and if they don't pounce
Well they're no friends of mine
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,388 posts)You'd walk by a bakery store front and see a kitteh curled up asleep in the window right beside the baguettes. It's considered a sign of cleanliness.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)What an awesome way to deal humanely with feral cats and reduce rodent population.
Just love that this program is so well embraced
Tab
(11,093 posts)was expecting an interesting story
valerief
(53,235 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I'm more of a doggie type than a kitty type but am 100% in favor of any group that is saving lives...this story in particular is great because the cats are doing something they love...watching, stalking, watching some more and maybe even getting a prize.
Thanks for posting.
KT2000
(20,590 posts)keeps cats in their warehouse. They keep a bag of cat food torn open so they won't open other ones themselves. They keep the warehouse clear of mice and rats.
Yeah cats! - and I love the tough guy in the photo!
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)around the time humans started storing grain. The stored grain attracted rats. The rats attracted cats. The rest is history.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)A rat can spoil a mind-boggling amount of grain in a short time. They don't just take what they need.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)The desert cat into town. The desert cat can still be found wild, and is about the size of an average domesticated cat.
eggplant
(3,914 posts)They don't have to spray any poisons, which keeps the grains from absorbing any of it.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Complaining about it won't solve a thing.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Response to U4ikLefty (Reply #30)
darkangel218 This message was self-deleted by its author.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)The (neutral) fact was absolutely related to the topic.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)The cats in the article were placed there by a cat rescue group.
PS: I get it. Have a great day.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)The fact that feral cats are an invasive species is not a problem. The problem you allude to is a human created problem. Irresponsible pet owners suck and the poor animals suffer.
I am hopeful that those cats are kept indoors. You have a great day as well.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Sorry Charlie.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Sorry Charlie.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)alp227
(32,064 posts)U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 12, 2015, 03:39 AM - Edit history (2)
Some Lynx are native and others are not.
Cougars AFAIK are native to the Americas.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)They are not open to dialogue.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)I am done (per post #71) because I had my say and knew the insults would come....and here we are.
Have a good evening.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)You're flamebaiting an OP which is about stray cats who found a home, a happy ending story. You obviously don't care about the OP, and want to bring in your negative snark.
Enough said, please don't respond to me again, as I have not responded to any of your posts after you made your intentions known.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)you post three more sentences of insults...nice.
Eventually I knew someone would lower themselves to insults...congrats.
BTW, this is GD where people discuss things, even uncomfortable facts like feral cats are an invasive species. And this outfit releases cats outside as well:
I shouldn't have replied but you insulted me & told me not to respond. You are worth no more of my time.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Sounds almost relevant.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Sounds almost like snark.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)that is my "point"
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)It doesn't. Except in a tangential way, this is helping to reduce the population of feral cats over time.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Cats should be kept indoors or penned in if outside.
Fixing and releasing an invasive species does little to reduce populations.
Do you suggest we "fix" feral hogs as well? How about "fixing" feral Burmese Pythons?
You know what? Never mind, this discussion ultimately devolves into emotional appeals and accusations of "cat hater".
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and this program puts them to work, indoors or out depends on the situation. If you actually took the time to read the article, or even look at the picture, you'd see that these particular cats are indoors in a warehouse type environment.
You may think it is better to put poison into the environment to protect grain from mice and rats, but most people would disagree.
Burmese pythons and feral hogs are dangerous to humans and don't provide any service. Well cred for cats are not not dangerous to humans, and these cats are providing a valuable service.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)I read the article, it says:
That looks like outside to me. Outside cats are free to roam, thus an invasive species.
Yes, cats kill mice...and birds, and lizards and small mammals (like Burmese Pythons) that are prey to native species.
People who let their cats roam freely outdoors, or feed feral cats are not helping things. I won't even talk about the assholes who dump their cats/kittens in a remote area because they are irresponsible.
I like cats and dogs. My last cat (Sabby) lived to be 19 years old. She killed many mice...indoors.
I had my say on the matter, so I will take my leave. Thanks for a respectful exchange.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Feral cats don't necessarily make good pets, but they can make good workers. They can be left alone, to continue to reproduce, which would not be a good thing, or they can be captured and neutured, so they can't reproduce. Do a thorough enough job of trapping and neutering, and their numbers will go down dramatically.
Feeding feral cats also reduces their desire to kill; they have enough to do avoiding being prey to coyotes, coydogs, fisher cats and cars. I have 2 right now; one is tame enough to be an indoor cat but won't use a litter box consistently enough to live indoors to the shelter gave him to me as a barn buddie. The other fears humans too much to live indoors, but does come into my barn at night to eat.
Shelters I'm familiar with capture and neuter them. They then give them as much time as possible to acclimate to humans. Some end up as great indoor pets. Others simply never trust humans enough to do so. Those they give away to keep mice and rats out of barns where they don't belong, and in the woods where they do.
This program is an excellent way to reduce their numbers and put them to work. Unchecked, mice and rats become a serious health problem in cities and on farms. Providing feral cats with shelter and a job, reduces the poisons put into the environment.
One of the 2 cats I just took in will never trust humans enough to become a pet. The other one rarely leaves the barn or immediate area around the barn; he's very tame but refuses to use a litter box.
Btw, neither lizards nor burmese pythons are mammals.
Burmese pythons are not small, and they are not native species. And they are a threat to birds, coyotes, pet dogs, toddlers and endangered native species in Florida. And they don't have any redeeming qualities whatsoever.
"I won't even talk about the assholes who dump their cats/kittens in a remote area because they are irresponsible."
On this we are in complete agreement.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)BTW, equating cats to humans =
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)We've royally fucked this entire planet over from our invasive ways.
We should have stayed in Africa where we evolved and stuck with sustainable, low-impact basic survival.
Now the planet is melting, thanks to us.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)They should have stayed in Africa and Asia where they were native, or indoors in America where they can do no harm to the ecosystem.
Just because there are things more destructive than cats doesn't mean that cats are not destructive...nice try.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Humans come from Africa as well. I guess we should have stayed there too???
10 minutes later
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)There are billions of plants and animals all over the world that live nowhere near where they originally evolved.
Many men, in particular, who hate cats seem to particularly hate that they can't control them and make them obey, like dogs. Let's just say I'm glad you're not my neighbor.
SunSeeker
(51,740 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)Blue Owl
(50,523 posts)n/t
unblock
(52,352 posts)wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Rescue groups would never place a pet without spaying/neutering and vaccinating.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)The Tree House Cats at Work Project is a green
humane program that removes sterilized and
vaccinated feral cats from life-threatening situations
and relocates them to new territories where their
presence will help control the rodent population.
http://www.treehouseanimals.org/site/DocServer/Cats_at_Work_FactSheet_2014.pdf?docID=741
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)If you look you can always see them around Indiana Jones and the Jungle Cruise.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026978819
Source: Mother Nature Network, July 15, 2015
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Good kitties.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)The Tree House Cats at Work Project is a green
humane program that removes sterilized and
vaccinated feral cats from life-threatening situations
and relocates them to new territories where their
presence will help control the rodent population.
Volunteer caretakers humanely manage the cats for
the entirety of their lives with ongoing support from
Tree House, as mandated by Cook Countys 2007
Managed Care of Feral Cats Ordinance. The cats
presence alone repels rodents, causing them to leave
the cats new territory. Cats will also hunt and catch
rodents on occasion, but when they are fed regularly
(as mandated by the program), they usually wont eat
them. Common methods used to control rats, such as
poison and traps, are ineffective short-term solutions.
Rat poison is also dangerous to children, pets and the
environment. Working cats are natural predators,
which provide a reliable, ongoing solution and a winwin
for both humans and cats!
http://www.treehouseanimals.org/site/DocServer/Cats_at_Work_FactSheet_2014.pdf?docID=741
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Everybody wins...knr
merrily
(45,251 posts)kimbutgar
(21,215 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/bast.html
Initech
(100,107 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Cats rule!
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)I wonder who cleans the litter boxes?
Omaha Steve
(99,760 posts)K&R!
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