Judge Calls 18-Year-Old a ‘B****.’ But She’s Only Trying to Help…

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BY CONOR SWANBERG

Judge Christina Argyres gave one 18-year-old first offender the scare of his life during his trial in a New Mexican court.

Isaiah Gay was being charged for burglarizing homes with some friends. He offered this excuse to Judge Argyres:

“I did the things I did all because I was impulsive…I was just being young and dumb.”

But she wasn’t having it. She told Gay exactly what would happen to him if she sentenced him to the maximum 15 years in prison:

“Do you know what would happen…to a young a dumb person in prison? Do you have any idea what would happen to you? You would probably be raped every day, for one. And I hate to sound like that, you know – rude, but that’s exactly what would happen to you.”

Judge Argyres then addressed the state, explaining that it would not be right to put the young man in prison just yet, especially since he was a first time offender:

“Again, he’s going to be somebody’s – I hate to use the word ‘bitch,’ but that’s exactly what he’s going to be…so I am willing to put him on probation.”

She let Gay off with five years of probation, and a warning about his future should he mess up again

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[Shrike47]

1. She didn't call him a bitch, she said he would end up a bitch in prison. Misleading title.

Yawn.

[riversedge]

4. Agree. I read thru it and...said to self-She didn't call the younin that. ...

[ryan_cats]

2. How

How could a judge treat a child like that?

[Old Codger]

23. You Object

To the truth?????

[ryan_cats]

24. I

I object to this line of questioning on behalf of the defense.

I also object to exposing a child to such language.

[cwydro]

25. A child?

He is 18.

Hell, I grew up in the 60s and I heard the term bitch before I was 12, I'm pretty darn sure.

[Old Codger]

30. Much rather

He hear something that is in fact part of a lot of peoples daily vocabulary than be exposed to what will definitely happen to him in prison...He was merely being exposed to reality..

[B Calm]

31. LOL, Political Correctness has gone haywire.

[Ed Suspicious]

26. We have agreed as a society that 18 is the age of consent and that by every legal measure and 18

year old is not a child. I agree that an 18 year old is still developing, but can we please can the child stuff?

[ryan_cats]

32. Fine

Fine, how can a judge heap such abuse upon an infant?

Although if the commercials I base my research on are correct, talking to an infant decreases the chance that the infant will drop out of school and in fact go on to a carreer as a telephone sanitizer.

[B Calm]

34. 18 and you say that's an infant. When I was 18 I was in the US Navy

serving overseas.

[Oneironaut]

3. Our prison system is embarrassing

Rape shouldn't be part of any punishment - not even a deterrent. It seems to be an accepted part of prison life now. Surely the loss of freedom should be enough to fear.

[MillennialDem]

12. That and when rape is part of the punishment, it's usually for nonviolent

offenders and it's part of the "perks" of prison for the violent offenders.

[Oneironaut]

15. Yup. Violent criminals will continue to look for prey

I cringe whenever someone joyfully says, "You're gonna be Bubba's (beep)!" or similar statements. They ignore the fact that "Bubba" is the personification of a predatory psychopath who has been given free reign to continue to hurt others.

[MillennialDem]

17. But it's a poor kid who used a stolen credit card or got caught with weed, so it's ok for

Bubba to rape him

[SickOfTheOnePct]

20. Of course it's not OK

I can't imagine any thinking person believing it's OK.

But the point is that it happens. The people that need to be held responsible, along with the rapists, are the corrections officials that allow it to happen. I've never been able to figure out why that hasn't happened.

But until/unless it is stopped, I don't see anything wrong with reminding young offenders that this could be the future they face if they don't straighten out their act.

[Saviolo]

38. This 1000 times.

Prison rape "jokes" are not funny to me. I think they're gross and they the fact that they're widely accepted is a sign of sickness in the correctional system.

[MillennialDem]

40. I think it's more of a sickness in American society. I don't understand why we

think everyone who does well (financially or otherwise) DESERVES it and everyone does poorly DESERVES it. Must date back to some christian nonsense that God rewards certain people.

[Humanist_Activist]

21. Exactly, and what's tragic is some of the non-violent offenders become violent...

to protect themselves, even going so far as to get "made" into a prison gangs for protection, that usually involves killing someone. So they end up as lifers.

[Humanist_Activist]

18. Our prison system should be considered an 8th amendment violation. n/t

[romanic]

5. I'm more outraged

by the kid breaking into other people's homes and saying "oh I'm just being dumb :3" versus the judge saying he'd be a bitch in prison.

[Lee-Lee]

7. Exactly nt

[Humanist_Activist]

16. So rape is an appropriate punishment for burglary, what if the burglar was female? n/t

[rug]

6. "that’s exactly what would happen to you.”

If true, she should be charged as an accomplice to rape.

[Calista241]

9. No she couldn't. She's acting within her constitutionally granted powers.

Telling someone that they'll get wet if they go outside while it's raining does not make you liable for them getting wet.

Now if she knew Bubba Smith liked 18 year old boys, and then arranged with the department of corrections to house this kid with Bubba Smith, then she's guilty of conspiracy.

[rug]

10. The bench doesn't have First Amendment rights.

Telling someone you will be raped and I will send you there is rape.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

11. Among the dumbest things I've ever read here n/t

[rug]

13. How often do you click the "My Posts" tab?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

14. OOOOOOHHH you got me!

[Calista241]

19. Not legally it isn't.

If that were the case, you could arrest everyone who ever worked in law enforcement, and countless others who were tangentially involved, like Eric Holder and other politicians.

Judges generally have wide discretion in pronouncing sentences, and one of those sentences is prison.

As long as the prison system makes a good faith effort to protect prisoners from rape, then nobody is guilty of anything. In other words, if the guards have a regular patrol or staff in place to observe prisoners to ensure their safety, then that's a good faith effort. If they've ever stopped a rape, or punished a prisoner for the raping of another, then they're even more in the clear.

All the judge would ever have to say if by some miracle they were questioned about this is that she was trying to deter the young man from committing future crime, and she trusted that the prison system would do their best to insure the inmate's safety.

[Comrade Grumpy]

42. If she's sentencing people to prison knowing they will be raped, that's criminal.

Her remarks are a stunning indictment of the prison system.

The judge knows people are getting raped in her state's prisons.

And she continues to blithely send people there.

Instead of scaring teenagers, she should be screaming from the rooftops about the state of the prisons.

[B Calm]

8. I just got done being a juror on a burglary case. The young man

in this case got off easy!

[catrose]

29. Really!

I was thinking about the kid who got away with manslaughter because of his affluenza, and was hoping this poor kid wasn't going to be imprisoned forever. The judge imposed consequences with compassion. Wait till the kid finds out how much fun probation is. I hope it turns him around.

[BlueJazz]

22. The kid should be doing cartwheels across the floor. Many people are in prison for a lot less.

[B Calm]

27. No kidding! The kid should be thanking this judge

and hopefully her words will wake this kid up!

[giftedgirl77]

28. No, she described exactly what would happen to him in jail.

An ugly reality and absolute truth. Then she did the decent thing & put him on probation.

[TeeYiYi]

33. The judge was kind...

Hopefully the kid was paying attention. I don't think he'll be so lucky if there's a next time.

TYY

[lumberjack_jeff]

35. How can she be part of a system, knowing that rape is what she's sentencing offenders to?

Her comments make clear that prison rape isn't a bug of the system, it's a feature.

[B Calm]

36. Do you have a problem with reality?

[lumberjack_jeff]

37. Yes. You don't? n/t

[B Calm]

39. There really isn't anything this one judge can do to change

prisoner behavior inside prison walls.

[lumberjack_jeff]

41. Judges are the top, the pinnacle, of the justice system.

The entire system below reflects their priorities and standards of justice.

This judge tacitly accepts and publicly announces her view that prison rape is neither cruel nor unusual.

[B Calm]

44. I guess I don't have any problems with this judge telling this criminal

the truth of what will happen if he continues down the same path. I never heard this judge say she approves of prison rape, she just told the truth of what happens behind prison walls.

[Comrade Grumpy]

43. Then she's complicit in rape. And she seems pretty nonchalant about it, too.

[B Calm]

45. You make it sound like she is behind bars and helping a rapist. PC

has gone too far!

[Humanist_Activist]

46. What the fuck does political correctness have to do with this?

Its been my observation that those who complain the loudest about political correctness are invariable those who wish they can say the N word in polite company.

[B Calm]

48. and what the fuck does this have to do with racism?

[Act_of_Reparation]

47. No, this "PC has gone too far" shit has gone too far.

This isn't an issue of political correctness, this is an issue of ethics.

IF

A: I do not sentence you to prison

BECAUSE

B: I could not in good conscience expose you to the indirect consequence of prison rape

THEN

C: If I do sentence you to prison, I can in good conscience expose you to the indirect consequence of prison rape.