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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed May 23, 2012, 06:49 AM May 2012

Obama loses 40 percent of the primary vote in Arkansas, Kentucky


Posted by Aaron Blake at 09:33 PM ET, 05/22/2012

President Obama lost more than 40 percent of the vote in Tuesday’s Arkansas and Kentucky Democratic primaries, despite little-to-no opposition.

Obama lost 42 percent of the vote to the “uncommitted” option in Kentucky and more than 40 percent to little-known attorney John Wolfe in Arkansas — the latest example of the incumbent president failing to win significant shares of votes in uncompetitive contests.

But it’s not the first time the president has taken less than 60 percent of the vote in a primary this year.

He ceded 41 percent of the vote in West Virginia to an incarcerated man in Texas named Keith Judd, and in Oklahoma, Obama lost several counties and won just 57 percent of the vote.

Kentucky’s vote was notable, though, for the fact that there weren’t even any other candidates on the ballot. The most the “uncommitted” option won so far this primary season was previously 21 percent in the North Carolina primary earlier this month. Kentucky looks as though it will double that number.


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Obama loses 40 percent of the primary vote in Arkansas, Kentucky (Original Post) cali May 2012 OP
Damn! Alabama AND Kentucky are against him? MrSlayer May 2012 #1
Seriously.... YoungDemCA May 2012 #2
democrats in Kentucky Arkansas or against him. cali May 2012 #8
Well, remember that Arkansas has an open BlueToTheBone May 2012 #9
Democrats in Kentucky and Arkansas would be Republicans in any other state. Arkana May 2012 #17
I think that is a bit unfair to call them all rascist.n/t hrmjustin May 2012 #35
Anyone who doesn't support Obama can be called a racist. hughee99 May 2012 #39
I was not only a supporter I worked on her campain so i remember. hrmjustin May 2012 #40
I agree completely hughee99 May 2012 #41
Pardon me, but I'm a Democrat in Kentucky, and I'd be a Democrat anywhere. Bake May 2012 #42
You said it Puzzledtraveller May 2012 #18
Democrats are against him??! He has a 90% approval rating with Dems. FarLeftFist May 2012 #19
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #20
Ya...Some Democrats in Kentucky and Arkansas are against him Cali_Democrat May 2012 #25
McCain won BOTH Kentucky and Arkansas in 2008 SunsetDreams May 2012 #26
I know, some people here are in lala land and think that... hrmjustin May 2012 #34
"Romney can win" SunsetDreams May 2012 #36
Yep. in 2008 both voted something like 60-40 for gramps n2doc May 2012 #13
they would love him wilt the stilt May 2012 #3
But only until his eligibility ran out. nt auburngrad82 May 2012 #6
Obama won 57 percent malaise May 2012 #4
He did, yes dems_rightnow May 2012 #5
Did Rmoney win 50% of the vote in any states outside of the South or Utah? n/t malaise May 2012 #11
Yes former9thward May 2012 #38
yes cali May 2012 #7
Yes in all three of these states he did.n/t hrmjustin May 2012 #37
And mittens loses 33% of the primary vote in these same states to people who have dropped out n2doc May 2012 #10
So what does it mean? Generic Other May 2012 #12
To be fair, how many Dems came out to vote in that primary? Marrah_G May 2012 #14
There is nothing 'fair' about sitting home on election day. Bluenorthwest May 2012 #22
Where in my post did I say I thought it was okay to not vote? Marrah_G May 2012 #23
Oh no! ... Stupid people in crazyland voted against Obama!!!! JoePhilly May 2012 #15
he's got it locked up....point is moot spanone May 2012 #16
And KY has a Democratic Governor... kentuck May 2012 #21
Is this a closed primary state? Marcia Brady May 2012 #24
Closed primary in KY louisvilleoutlaw May 2012 #28
Liberal in KY here. Just wanna say 'sorry'. louisvilleoutlaw May 2012 #27
Thank you. That adds a hell of a lot of context to this OMG headline. Bucky May 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 May 2012 #29
I don't understand...he LOST 40%...does that mean he WON 60%? Sheepshank May 2012 #31
Yes, he won... louisvilleoutlaw May 2012 #32
but he probably never planned to win either one (didn't in '08) SoCalDem May 2012 #33
 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
1. Damn! Alabama AND Kentucky are against him?
Wed May 23, 2012, 07:32 AM
May 2012

What will we ever do without their crucial electoral votes? They are usually such reliable states for us.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. democrats in Kentucky Arkansas or against him.
Wed May 23, 2012, 07:55 AM
May 2012

let me repeat that: Democrats are against him.

The denial around here is pathetic. Romney could well beat Obama.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
9. Well, remember that Arkansas has an open
Wed May 23, 2012, 08:55 AM
May 2012

primary. Lots of cross overs. We had never heard of Wolfe until last week! Democrats in the state are VERY supportive of our President. Unfortunately for the People of the state, we are owned by the Waltons and Tysons. But we are working hard to poke holes in the net and become blue.

As for Kentucky, I have no idea.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
17. Democrats in Kentucky and Arkansas would be Republicans in any other state.
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:35 AM
May 2012

I'm not losing sleep over the fact that a bunch of racists tried to sabotage the Democratic primaries and failed.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
39. Anyone who doesn't support Obama can be called a racist.
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:28 PM
May 2012

Just ask Hillary's '08 primary supporters.

Whether that's an accurate term or not is another matter.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
40. I was not only a supporter I worked on her campain so i remember.
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:34 PM
May 2012

I think it wrong to lump everyone a racist that does not vote for him

Bake

(21,977 posts)
42. Pardon me, but I'm a Democrat in Kentucky, and I'd be a Democrat anywhere.
Thu May 24, 2012, 02:07 PM
May 2012

In fact, there are several of us here on DU. And I think it's safe to say I speak for all of us when I invite you to kindly go fuck yourself. (EDITED TO ADD: with all due respect, of course.)

Bake

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
19. Democrats are against him??! He has a 90% approval rating with Dems.
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:38 AM
May 2012

NEWSFLASH: It was an open primary in coal country and white southerners are still racist.

Response to cali (Reply #8)

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
34. I know, some people here are in lala land and think that...
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:17 PM
May 2012

...just because they think it everyone else thinks it too. Romney can win. Wow that is enough to make me want to puke.

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
36. "Romney can win"
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:24 PM
May 2012

by winning Kentucky and Arkansas in the same way that John McCain did?

Kentucky and Arkansas are not good examples in presenting the idea that Romney can win. President Obama didn't win those states in 2008 and his electoral vote was a decisive win.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
13. Yep. in 2008 both voted something like 60-40 for gramps
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:15 AM
May 2012

Probably will be worse this time. Both states dominated by deluded, racist voters high on koch-cane. They will continue to vote against their interests to their graves, and blame it all on 'demoncrats'

malaise

(269,278 posts)
4. Obama won 57 percent
Wed May 23, 2012, 07:39 AM
May 2012

Question - did Willard Rmoney win 57% of the vote in a single state?

WTF is wrong with these hacks?

former9thward

(32,136 posts)
38. Yes
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:25 PM
May 2012

NY, MA, PA, and all of the NE states he won by 56% or more. But who cares? Not really relevant to the OP.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. And mittens loses 33% of the primary vote in these same states to people who have dropped out
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:09 AM
May 2012

So? No mention of that fact, of course.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
14. To be fair, how many Dems came out to vote in that primary?
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:16 AM
May 2012

Seems to me, the only ones who would be making the effort to go out and vote in those primaries would be republicans, RW leaning independents and maybe a few Dems who hate the President enough to go out and cast a vote against him that they know has no meaning.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. There is nothing 'fair' about sitting home on election day.
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:10 AM
May 2012

How are they Democrats if they don't care to vote to nominate their House candidate, President, and to vote on issues and local offices? Do you seriously think it is ok to 'not make the effort'?
Our Primary just finished. Along with Obama and DeFazio, we had local offices, city and county, as well as Party officers on a separate ballot. I voted for Obama. Yet you claim only those who hate him would bother to vote in an election in which he is running? Logic like that leaves States Red for all time. Good thing these States are known to be GOP and clearly, even their Democrats are fairly Republican or apathetic to a disturbing degree.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
23. Where in my post did I say I thought it was okay to not vote?
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:27 AM
May 2012

My post was simply giving a logical explanation as to why a Texas inmate would get 40% of the primary vote..... IMHO it wasn't a real sampling of Democrats.

Not quite sure why you are flipping out on me.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
15. Oh no! ... Stupid people in crazyland voted against Obama!!!!
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:18 AM
May 2012

Obama better become white in a big hurry!!

Marcia Brady

(108 posts)
24. Is this a closed primary state?
Wed May 23, 2012, 02:42 PM
May 2012

Is it possible this is the result of 'Pukes stirring up trouble, like they did in the '08 primaries?

27. Liberal in KY here. Just wanna say 'sorry'.
Thu May 24, 2012, 10:11 AM
May 2012

Turnout here state-wide was only 12%. That's not "42% of Kentuckians". Please DO NOT believe these media reports and their misleading headlines.

Here is the real story: http://insiderlouisville.com/news/2012/05/24/uncommitting-a-lie-the-truth-about-kentuckys-primary-election-vote/

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
30. Thank you. That adds a hell of a lot of context to this OMG headline.
Thu May 24, 2012, 10:15 AM
May 2012

When we vote in Texas, I plan to show up, no matter how pointless it is.

Response to cali (Original post)

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
31. I don't understand...he LOST 40%...does that mean he WON 60%?
Thu May 24, 2012, 10:16 AM
May 2012

in those states? In a primary without a serious opponent and in states where showing up to vote in a Primary probably wastes more gas than it makes a statement?

Oh, ok.

32. Yes, he won...
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:11 PM
May 2012

after receiving nearly 120,000 votes. In Jefferson County, where I live, he really did well. But on my ballot were only two judicial races. People don't get excited for those, and most thought since the President is running for re-election unopposed in Kentucky, there would be no reason at all to go cast one for him. The "uncommitted" option has only appeared since 1996.

Many KY Dems are former Dems who vote Republican. They just don't change registration, hence the cheap, false headlines. Upon further inspection, the "42%" who "rejected" the president here in this state is derived from this complicated mathematical formula: The 12% total who bothered to vote, minus those republicans who are counted in the 12%. Well, it's 42% of them.

It's a fourth of less than half of 12%.

There's your headline. It is not as though everyone showed up to vote and said NO to Obama.

Get this info out!!! They are LYING to you!!

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
33. but he probably never planned to win either one (didn't in '08)
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:13 PM
May 2012

There's probably NO way any dem can win in the states that are deliberately contrarian, and that consistently vote against their own best interests.

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