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There's a sentence from a Los Angeles Times column titled, "Why Clinton's email problem won't go away" that's so ironic and so galling that it ought to be put on a poster in every media outlet. Here it is: "It's difficult to avoid the suspicion that Clinton, after the scandals that rocked her husband's presidency during the 1990s, simply did not want to leave behind a paper trail (or e-trail)."
Context is everything, dear children, and the writer, John Schindler (a dick pic-sending right wing assmunch), is leaving out a huge part of the story. See, all those "scandals," Travelgate and Filegate and Whitewater, were utter bullshit. They were worthless wastes of time and money by Republicans (and cowardly Democrats), and their only purpose was to isolate, degrade, and destroy the presidency of Bill Clinton, that hick punk who thought he could just saunter in and lead the nation. If they also took down his bitch wife who thought she was smart enough to solve the health care crisis, all the better. If not them, then any collateral damage of their friends and associates was just dandy.
The only thing that approached an actual, real "scandal" was Clinton lying under oath about getting blowjobs and cigar-banging an intern in the Oval Office. That came out of the Whitewater investigation and it had jackshit to do with the presumably shady land deal in Arkansas. The entire impeachment saga was because of a tangential question and, ultimately, it was the same giant trash pile that every other fake "scandal" was.
While most of the public didn't give a single fuck about the Clinton scandals, the Republican base and the party's donors loved it. They gobbled it down like it was jizz from Jesus's own dick. And conservatives across the country pretended that the United States was being victimized by the immoral bimbo fucker and his castrating spouse. God, how they made bank on it all, how evangelicals lied openly about the sinful, adulterous, murdering, raping, drug-using Clintons. It was a goddamned carnival of molesting clowns and shiv-wielding carnies. And press outlets just jumped on the rickety scandal roller coaster because the GOP had bitch-slapped them into believing the "liberal media" canard. "We'll show you how we're not liberals," they announced. "Please, tell us more about missing Rose Law Firm documents and we'll act as if the fate of the entire motherfucking republic depends on it."
We have been a pathetic fucking country for a very long time.
Which gets us to the scandal du jour, the inevitable digging up of something, anything, to sew onto Hillary Clinton's clothes. The scarlet "B" for Benghazi wasn't holding. But, oh, happy fortune, the bullshit investigation yielded the info on the private email server, and the Clinton Industrial Complex went back into high gear. Let's get the "E" out there.
When the Rude Pundit first heard of the private email server issue, his initial thought was "Oh, c'mon" because he knew what was coming. But the one part that's been left out of the story of why Clinton used the home server (which was not fucking against the law) for her State Department emails when she was Secretary of State is the complicity of the Republican Party and the media in making Clinton so paranoid that she felt she had to do so.
Of course, she was going to do anything to keep her communications out of the public eye. Of course, she was going to make life complicated for any congressional investigations. Why the fuck wouldn't she? What the hell did she get the first time around? A discussion about her husband's dick on the floor of the House of Representatives. An accusation that she had a friend murdered. Why wouldn't she just say, "Go fuck yourselves"? In fact, she should have said that at the beginning of this. She should have said, "Well, no shit I used my own server."
Frankly, Hillary Clinton's pretty goddamn fearless to be putting herself through what was going to be an inevitable slog through the GOP fake scandal swamp.
Note: None of this excuses Clinton if she committed any real crimes (and not just violating the "spirit" of the law, which everyone does every day in many, many ways without being dragged through piles of dog shit for it). But, so far, sorry, she hasn't. Offering unsatisfactory explanations for one's actions is not illegal.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2015/08/not-giving-shit-about-clinton-email.html
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,771 posts)n/t
daleanime
(17,796 posts)many are still searching for coffee.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)dozens of recs right off the bat. Huumm, makes ya wonder, doesn't it?
What's different about this offering compared to all of his others? Let me see.....
Oh yeah, it could conceivably be construed as favorable to Hillary Rodham Clinton.
No need to look any further for an explanation. There you have it.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)It rankles me when I see posts, 10 minutes after the OP, complaining about no recs. Especially when it is at times like early morning or late night. But I did rec the OP- I am a Bernie supporter, but I am getting tired of hearing the BS that is Benghazi and the email thing.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I am against enough of her positions without having to crawl down in the mud with republicans over BS issues. But, if she wins the primary she will be getting my vote- we can't afford to have a republican name Ruth Bader Ginsberg's replacement (one or two other justices are up there in age, too).
Laser102
(816 posts)as defensive and refusing to accept "her" part in the scandals manufactured by the repugs and the press? I saw a man from the state department on CNN saying there are no rules against private email accounts and even after this there are still no rules. Not recommended to use private servers, but no rules. If that's the case, what is the problem? I need more coffee.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)I'm glad to see this.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and segments of "Democrats" want to act all brand new when the one-word descriptor of/for HRC polls as "liar" ... 20+ years of the gop, the media and now the left screaming "she's a liar!", just might have people using that descriptor.
trof
(54,256 posts)And not just say what he means straight out?
K&R
Nitram
(22,755 posts)...has now been accepted as true by many on the left. Very sad.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Cha
(296,780 posts)Thanks Rude and meegbear!
BooScout
(10,406 posts)Botany
(70,442 posts)He is very rude.
Raster
(20,998 posts)My fave: "We have been a pathetic fucking country for a very long time. "
Botany
(70,442 posts)..... many republicans have seen attacking the other side as a way of doing business.
Reagan sold weapons to the Ayatollah, hid the money in Swiss bank accounts, and used that
money to run a war in Central America against people who were no threat to any of us but he
got a pass on that.
w Bush lied to start an unneeded war, missed 70 warnings prior to 9/11, stole two elections,
and let Dick Cheney make billions on the Iraq and turned the Gulf of Mexico into an oil slick
because his "energy group" took off the needs for emergency kill switches for deep water
oil rigs and he got a pass on that but "they" impeached Clinton for a blow job and swift boated
John Kerry who had three purple hearts, a bronze star, and a silver star.
BTW meet the people who help plant and manage storyies likr HRC's email "scandal."
http://crcpublicrelations.com/
Raster
(20,998 posts)...they also diverted funds into cocaine trafficking which begat the crack cocaine epidemic specifically AIMED at African-American persons and their communities.
And when it comes to Bush*, you ARE FAR TOO CHARITABLE. 70+ warnings weren't missed - THEY WERE PURPOSELY IGNORED.
AND FINALLY, simplistic as this may be, of the two main political parties in this country, one party consistently expends time, energy and money TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE. The other party consistently expends time, energy and financial resources to stop people from voting.
Botany
(70,442 posts)He committed suicide from 2 gun shots to his head.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb
This Hillary email scnadal is made up bull shit from the same people who brought us Whitewater
and Swiftboats for truth. And our "liberal media" is helping to push this bull crap 24/7 too.
Raster
Raster
(20,998 posts)Just amazing. Botany!
Botany
(70,442 posts)... checked into a motel in Georgia and committed suicide or the man behind
Ohio 2004 and Rove's "off the books" email account whose private plane
crashed in Dec. 2008, Michael Connell.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5567680&mesg_id=5567680
http://freepress.org/article/ghost-rigged-elections-past-new-revelations-death-michael-connell-0
The stuff I saw and heard in Ohio 2004 still haunt me.
Raster
(20,998 posts)....sneeringly in the open by Ken Blackwell, who probably holds the record for most lawsuits filed against a seated state Secretary of State, with the exception, of course, of Cruella de Harriss.
Ohio was a brazen mix of every GOP dirty trick (electoral and otherwise) from the last 25 years. Never before in ANY AMERICAN ELECTION was the blatant disregard of citizen's electoral rights so shamelessly on display. Blackwell had no qualms about stealth and decorum - there was no pretense of validity or fairness. None. He simply did not care.
Botany
(70,442 posts)I was right in the middle of "the belly of the beast" in Ohio 2004 I saw "it" w/my
own eyes and heard "it" w/my own ears and was driven just about crazy when
nothing happened and bush and Cheney got their 2nd term.
I went to one post election meeting where hundreds of people stood up and all told
their election horror stories ..... votes flipping on machines, phone lines hacked, people
being denied absentee ballots, "the mighty texas strike force," people being dropped from
voter rolls, and tons of other stuff we had local and national media at that meeting
and it got almost no coverage.
We had life long republicans coming to Kerry's HQs and to volunteer because they
said this country couldn't stand anymore of bush and company. We had calls from
a naval ship in the middle east and troops in Iraq wanting to make sure that vote was
counted because everybody hated bush but in the end the troops voted on electronic
machines and KBR handled the votes.
Kerry kicked bush ass in Ohio but things happened: screen captures election night 2004
Raster
(20,998 posts)I think most of the country tuned Ohio out, because they were so Florida-weary.
Botany
(70,442 posts)And to this day I will always think that members of the Ohio Democratic Party,
moles and operatives inside the Kerry Campaign, and the media were all in on
making sure "things worked out" like they wanted 'em to.
Hell bush and Rove met w/Blackwell and the Franklin County GOP leader and and
a member of the board of the elections on election day 2004. When Karen Hughes
told w he had lost around 5 or 6 PM all w did was laugh.
The stories from Ohio 2004 are almost endless but the key factor in all of them is that
every single "glitch" or a person no longer being on the voter rools or lack of voting
machines or Miami County adding another 20,000 votes to their totals @ 11:00 PM
hours after the vote was in and that vote data had precints w/97% turnouts and ALL
of those 20,000 votes went to Kerry and bush at the exact same %s including being
spot on 2 figures to the right of the decimal point (odds of that happening by random
chance are one in the billions if not trillions) or .... all went to w & Cheney.
The media knows this stuff and so does the democratic party and the DoJ and nobody
says shit.
navarth
(5,927 posts)...and I always enjoy his prognostications.
For all I know, maybe there really is something to it; but it's smelled like bullshit to me ever since it started.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)But I wish she had said this "Well, no shit I used my own server."
blackspade
(10,056 posts)This whole 'scandal' has been a pile 'o shit from the beginning.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)is their route to the nomination will now have a sad.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)of perfectly valid reasons to oppose her. Nowhere on that list are the e-mail kerfuffle and Benghazi.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)and a dollar short
but you seem to have been two hours earlier
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7113700
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid