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Mira

(22,380 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 10:15 PM Jul 2015

My paper's cartoon today could not have predicted the next mass shooting would be today

As I type we're learning about a shooting in Lafayette Louisiana, in a movie theater, where two (including the shooter an older man) are dead and 6-8 are injured.
Not much else is known at this time, sad and ironic is that the other theater shooter's jury is deliberating at the moment to either give him life or death.


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My paper's cartoon today could not have predicted the next mass shooting would be today (Original Post) Mira Jul 2015 OP
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2015 #1
Sad cartoon Gothmog Jul 2015 #2
Sad state of affairs. Frustratedlady Jul 2015 #4
Prescient malaise Jul 2015 #3
+1 daleanime Jul 2015 #7
Allow people to have access to guns, SOME of them will use them DFW Jul 2015 #13
Sadly it isn't awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #25
a very sad k and r. we all know these things are now a matter of "when", not "if". niyad Jul 2015 #5
Also, from today's Toon Roundup #2 Electric Monk Jul 2015 #6
yes! oldandhappy Jul 2015 #8
Had not heard about today's shooting yet. passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #9
I see there are plenty of flags. Now he can move to the next one... n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #10
It's quite terrifying Mira Jul 2015 #11
I considered getting the scanner on nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #12
And people here shut me down SheilaT Jul 2015 #14
Well I'll agree with you. SoapBox Jul 2015 #15
+1 n/t Nevernose Jul 2015 #17
PRECISELY stated n/t Mira Jul 2015 #18
That simple malaise Jul 2015 #20
Why do you suppose sarisataka Jul 2015 #22
They were all stabbed to death, so the antigun crowd doesn't care: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #27
You are at least partially right. SheilaT Jul 2015 #30
We will all be safer when the causes, not just the instrumentality, of violence are addressed friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #36
Missed the one in Oklahoma. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #23
+a million nt laundry_queen Jul 2015 #26
"If you don't support that, then you're happily complicit in all these murders." friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #28
No. It's not the same. SheilaT Jul 2015 #31
You're backtracking- you said those that don't agree are "happily complicit in...murders" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #35
I'm Not Surprised lib87 Jul 2015 #16
Shock Fatigue Mira Jul 2015 #21
It's Like Watching the Same Car Accident in Slow Motion lib87 Jul 2015 #29
K&R napkinz Jul 2015 #19
kick napkinz Jul 2015 #24
I don't know about you Aerows Jul 2015 #32
I must tell you Mira Jul 2015 #33
I'm glad we are having this conversation Aerows Jul 2015 #34
I am encouraged about the video of our President today Mira Jul 2015 #37

DFW

(54,467 posts)
13. Allow people to have access to guns, SOME of them will use them
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 12:45 AM
Jul 2015

It is too late for the gun crowd to come in with the "yes, but..." lines.

People are dead because the wrong people had access to guns and used them.

The only question is if we want our country's per capita gun death statistics to more resemble those of Syria or those of Denmark? The NRA is rooting for Syria. So far, they are getting their wish.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
12. I considered getting the scanner on
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 12:14 AM
Jul 2015

due to copycats. Too late tonight I hope. But it is just a matter of time am afraid.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
14. And people here shut me down
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 12:50 AM
Jul 2015

every time I say guns should be confiscated.

So long as guns are readily available, these shootings will happen. Anyone at all who isn't willing to take guns away from people are not entitled to act shocked or even surprised when these things happen.

Another day, another shooting. If shooting 20 elementary school children isn't enough to seriously change our gun laws, then what will it take? 30? 50? More? I'm so sick of the pious hand wringing, and the weeping over these deaths. So long as we allow guns, these killings, these deaths will happen. It's simply a part of our life. Don't even begin to pretend these could be prevented by anything other than outright taking of guns. If you don't support that, then you're happily complicit in all these murders.

malaise

(269,245 posts)
20. That simple
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 06:37 AM
Jul 2015

Meanwhile two teenagers wiped out most of their family in Oklahoma - but it barely made the news.

ISIS has nothing on the NRA

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
30. You are at least partially right.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 12:57 AM
Jul 2015

I stumbled across that story in my local newspaper. It seems like a genuine tragedy -- as are all such murders.

Sometimes, these sorts of murders, with knives not guns, are used to prove that people will kill even if they don't have guns. Alas, the vast majority of murders in this country involve guns. I'm not advocating or justifying killing with knives. I do understand that at least sometimes someone bent on murder will accomplish it with whatever means comes to hand.

Lets not make it easy and have guns so readily available.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
28. "If you don't support that, then you're happily complicit in all these murders."
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 12:35 AM
Jul 2015

That sounds a lot like this:



Shame to see this mindset getting approval at DU
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
31. No. It's not the same.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:00 AM
Jul 2015

George W was deliberately invoking a false dichotomy.

What I'm saying is that if you support the kind of unlimited access to guns we have in this country, then you give up the right to act shocked at the many gun deaths that occur. Toddlers killing their mothers. Children killing other children. Grown men going into movie theaters and shooting as many patrons as they can.

If the guns weren't so easily available, none of these murders would happen. They don't happen in other countries. Australia took away guns after a mass murder with guns. If they could do it, why can't we?

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
35. You're backtracking- you said those that don't agree are "happily complicit in...murders"
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:17 AM
Jul 2015

I'll remind the disinterested reader what the word 'complicit' means:

com·plic·it
kəmˈplisit/
adjective
adjective: complicit

involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing.


It was bullshit when Little Georgie Porgie said it, and it's bullshit now.
This is the same mindset that got the Patriot Act passed.

lib87

(535 posts)
16. I'm Not Surprised
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 12:55 AM
Jul 2015

And that's the worst possible emotion to have. As long as guns are available, this is going to keep happening.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. I don't know about you
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:01 AM
Jul 2015

but I'm sick of this. Ban handguns. If you aren't capable of using rifles and long guns, then you have no business using one.

There, I said it.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
33. I must tell you
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:10 AM
Jul 2015

I'm against all of them. Don't even know the difference between them.
I grew up in Germany. Guns did not enter my universe til I moved here. If people hurt each other they hit each other over the head with a beer stein.
I believe with all my heart I am less likely to be shot if I come down the stairs with a candle in order to confront a villain, than if I come down with a gun.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. I'm glad we are having this conversation
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:12 AM
Jul 2015

and utterly, abysmally depressed that we are having it again.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
37. I am encouraged about the video of our President today
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:26 AM
Jul 2015

(or day before)
indicating that addressing this issue remains a powerful goal in his remaining 18 months.
I call this time the "Obama-don't-care" era based on his behavior as of late.

I am therefore quite hopeful.

(now for the issue of investigation and pursuit of Cheney and Bush and abandoning the verbiage of "going forward and not looking back" I have given up even during the Obama don't care months, I know it's another issue, but I will never fail to rail about it)

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