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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:10 PM Jul 2015

It is just God damn amazing how Democrats refuse to

immediately pounce on major right wing lies, driven by conservative politicians, media, and web sites..

Jesus Christ..1st Acorn..... now body parts of aborted fetuses are being sold by Planned Parenthood.. Christ! the Acorn thing was totally debunked yet Acorn hardly exists any more.. The Planned Parenthood video which has also been debunked seems to be gathering momentum ( Rep. House has passed a bill in reaction to this story) which has been proven to be just plain bullshit! Tapes were completely edited and falsified a la James O’keefe style..

Why such little push back? I ask? Please someone explain.. I realize that probably 90% of all our media drives this bullshit..but come on Dems..Fight the hell back on this crap..
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/planned-parenthood-sting-videos-explained

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Auggie

(31,227 posts)
1. Push back only draws attention to the lies. I want something bettter ... smarter.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:20 PM
Jul 2015

Ignore the BS and use the opportunity to start dialogue that pushes the progressive agenda. Howard Dean is very good at that IMO.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
5. Strongly disagree.....
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jul 2015

If you do not push back immediately the story only gets stronger.. Even if you are correct in your assumption,
that a progressive dialogue is a solution.. the MSM is not interested in covering it.. They thrive on discord!!

Auggie

(31,227 posts)
10. Most people know it's bullshit ...
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jul 2015

those who don't would never vote for Dems anyhow ... some wouldn't bother to vote at all.

In advertising (my profession) it rare for a brand to respond to another brand's claim, no matter how outlandish (at least publicly -- if it's slanderous they'd answer through the courts, for example).

Instead we work on developing better strategies and ways to deliver those strategies. My gripe is that Dems' messages are usually either too muddled, disjointed or weak to cut through that bullshit you mention.

spanone

(135,921 posts)
3. i saw several stories on this from local news to m$nbc and they all....
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:27 PM
Jul 2015

said it was a 'heavily edited' video....then every single one of them SHOWED the 'heavily edited' video's most damning parts....the media made this video a reality.

k&r...

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
7. “Heavily Edited”?
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:40 PM
Jul 2015

Many have absolutely no idea as to what that means... A great movie can be “heavily edited”..

Fox viewers might think heavily edited might mean carefully put together..

In any case you are absolutely correct.. You see that shit all day long on the tube.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. The institutional Democratic Party does not push back for a simple reason:
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jul 2015

It's completely in on the same game. Has been since at least the mid-1990s.

LuvLoogie

(7,067 posts)
6. The President said he would veto any bill that defunds PP.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jul 2015

Hillary is speaking out against the swiftboating of PP. The GOP only comes up with boogeymen. Under President Obama's leadership, Democrats push progress and come up with solutions. Sure some pols wuss out, and we have to deal with some representatives who are more footmen than statesmen--but forward we proceed.

Buck up trooper! And push back within your immediate circle.

rock

(13,218 posts)
12. We prefer to put our energies
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:24 PM
Jul 2015

Into something useful. The repiggies need something to fret about (and their time is wasted anyhow).

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
13. I wish someone would come out with WHY the research
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jul 2015

That uses those fetus body parts is needed. The type of abortion that they are trying to stop is generally done when the fetus is not viable or the mother's life is at risk. Using the body parts of the fetus for research can let doctors learn why those situations happen so they can SAVE lives - both of mothers and the fetuses - in the future.

Why doesn't anyone explain this and ask why these "anti-abortion" death cult people are not interested in saving lives by increasing our knowledge?

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