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ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:10 PM Jul 2015

Did anyone else notice how the piece of shit Texas DPS trooper who assualted Sandra Bland led her

to an area outside the dashcam's field of view?

Can't let anyone see the racist cop's discipline being applied to correct the insubordinate black woman's behavior.

Also, what's the best way to avoid having Ms. Bland file a lawsuit against DPS and the trooper? Silence her....permanently.

Edited to add: I was looking at the video...in it there is at one point a white pickup truck that makes an illegal u-turn past the traffic stop scene and comes back and passes the scene. I wonder if that person made a video. Could offer a new perspective on the incident.

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Did anyone else notice how the piece of shit Texas DPS trooper who assualted Sandra Bland led her (Original Post) ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2015 OP
Yeah..it was on purpose. kentuck Jul 2015 #1
Sickening. cilla4progress Jul 2015 #2
I wish a rich Liberal would start selling car cameras on the cheap, Baitball Blogger Jul 2015 #3
Excellent idea. Get pulled over, hit a switch and start recording, with the recording being uploaded ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2015 #4
You know, I stopped receiving crank phone calls after caller ID Baitball Blogger Jul 2015 #6
A camera that comes equiped with an easy to reach Panic / Emergency button. SoapBox Jul 2015 #10
Could a camera be activated by the Emergency flasher button? PADemD Jul 2015 #16
and be turned off by the same means. happyslug Jul 2015 #29
I regret..... HeartoftheMidwest Jul 2015 #20
Already have rear view cams. My car has one. Just need surround-view in panic mode, recording ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2015 #25
The ACLU already has that, as an app for your phone FSogol Jul 2015 #21
thank you for that. barbtries Jul 2015 #36
Or perhaps we get a Progressive in charge of schools, and prevent the incidents, instead jtuck004 Jul 2015 #8
I would rather have them in control of police forces and local government. zeemike Jul 2015 #13
The schools are only part of it. There is also providing opportunity, the kinds of things jtuck004 Jul 2015 #18
I never discount the importance of education. zeemike Jul 2015 #31
"less from schools and teachers now than ever before " < They come in one end inquisitive, jtuck004 Jul 2015 #33
Not everyone is scared but everyone is supposed to be. zeemike Jul 2015 #35
How cheap is cheap? OnlinePoker Jul 2015 #11
But once you are "pulled" from your car how do you change the camera direction? Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #19
Yeah, I did notice that. And how he tried to shut down Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #5
Yup. stranger81 Jul 2015 #9
Has anything been reported yet about what her phone had recoreded? tencats Jul 2015 #7
Need to file homocide charges. Have read it's being investigated as one. freshwest Jul 2015 #12
I noticed that too. blackspade Jul 2015 #14
This may be why it is now treated as a murder case. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #15
First thing. That was very purposeful. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #17
I got something else that I have yet to hear other media point out nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #22
and she asks repeatedly marym625 Jul 2015 #24
Yup and you are supposed to be told the primary charge nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #26
Fuck this guy marym625 Jul 2015 #27
and his bullshit "quit moving" marym625 Jul 2015 #23
Right in your observations. I wondered the same thing about the pickup truck. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #28
I read somewhere that she was able to make a call from jail and told Person 2713 Jul 2015 #30
But another report Igel Jul 2015 #34
illegal u-turn retired rooster Jul 2015 #32

Baitball Blogger

(46,775 posts)
3. I wish a rich Liberal would start selling car cameras on the cheap,
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:51 PM
Jul 2015

all with the intention of leveling the playing field.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
4. Excellent idea. Get pulled over, hit a switch and start recording, with the recording being uploaded
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jul 2015

to a server for preservation as evidence, if needed.

Baitball Blogger

(46,775 posts)
6. You know, I stopped receiving crank phone calls after caller ID
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:00 PM
Jul 2015

was released for customers. There is something to say about safety measures.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
10. A camera that comes equiped with an easy to reach Panic / Emergency button.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:23 PM
Jul 2015

One touch and it immediately starts recording.

America has really come to this? Having to protect ourselves from these crazed police militias?

This country needs help badly.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
29. and be turned off by the same means.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:30 PM
Jul 2015

Sorry, the best solution is a camera with a large SD card that takes decent picture for eights hours at a time. Thus it is always on, you do not have to turn in on, and will record what is being done.

HeartoftheMidwest

(309 posts)
20. I regret.....
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:07 PM
Jul 2015

....that I have but one up-vote for thee.

Forget self-driving cars; how about self-DEFENSIVE ( video recording ) cars? Way more important than all the clever gizmos and pretty lights on the dashboard that are available now.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
25. Already have rear view cams. My car has one. Just need surround-view in panic mode, recording
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:20 PM
Jul 2015

and wi-fi uploading, with local backup to vehicle storage and to cell phone and to personal online data storage. That's three backup storage methods. The 4-way camera can be mounted to the top of the vehicle, just as the new-fangled antennas are, and activated at will when needed.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. Or perhaps we get a Progressive in charge of schools, and prevent the incidents, instead
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jul 2015

of just finding clever ways to watch them.

Maybe put working against hate on a par with learning Algebra?


But that's just me thinking..

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
13. I would rather have them in control of police forces and local government.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jul 2015

And in fact that is the only way it will change.
Schools have a limited effect on children...the larger effect is the parenting...and government authority has an effect on parents.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
18. The schools are only part of it. There is also providing opportunity, the kinds of things
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:01 PM
Jul 2015

Progressives do which society seems to have forgotten.

The parents are part of it, the schools are part of it, biology is part of it.

Schooling has many effects on children and there are whole schools of thought on paper with research that shows it. On this planet, anyway, most people know that. Of course, there are the hundreds we drag off to jail from school now - I suspect that has an even more tragic effect.

The schooling today teaches them, defiantly, that individuality is the best way to be - Donald Trump is held out as the pinnacle of success. Until we teach again that community is everything, we will continue to burn ourselves up.

We can't just leave it up to HR to hire better people - there is only one society to choose from. The difference is in how your people are raised at home, educated and trained, and then respected.

Tough to find better ones in a society where we we are subsidizing bank$ter/donors and keeping their wealth intact by letting people go hungry.





zeemike

(18,998 posts)
31. I never discount the importance of education.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:48 PM
Jul 2015

It is very important.
But education comes less from schools and teachers now than ever before in history and more from TV and movies...if you think about it a child will spend more time with the TV than with a teacher.
And so you must look at what the TV teaches. And what it teaches is exactly what you described...that Trump should be your goal in life and that murder is the solution to bad situations...as well as many other things.

I rode with a neighbor to pick up his grand kids from school a while back...and it looked more like a prison to me...he had to go to the gate to pick them up because they were not allowed to leave without an adult...I was shocked and dismayed at that. That is no way to raise kids. And think of what that teaches them.

It's good that I am not young enough to have children, because I would abandon the city for their sake.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
33. "less from schools and teachers now than ever before " < They come in one end inquisitive,
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jul 2015

wanting to learn. Out the other with a grade, like a chicken or side of beef, that tells them which direction we want them to go. And for too many that spark of inquisitiveness has been extinguished, forever.

Had schooling, as opposed to learning or education or training not intervened, we might all have been richer.

That's, partly, how we get Scott Walker. And the people who voted for him. 3 times. And people in Boston schools who dipped the wooden switches they used on black kids in vinegar "because their skins are tougher, you know".

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is how we get bullies who later become bullies with badges.

It's my basic problem with people who think we are gonna breed ourselves out of our problems. Broken adults use schooling, as well as other methods, to break their kids in the same way. 50 years down the road you have the same broken adults hoping for change, hoping they don't have to be put out too much.



Tv, movies, school - lots of different ways to school/educated them, eh?

And the prison you described...I understand, everyone is scared, but that really doesn't seem to bode well for the future. Then again, if we burn up the planet, maybe a few will survive in pods - and this would be great training for that.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
35. Not everyone is scared but everyone is supposed to be.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 06:14 PM
Jul 2015

But you nailed the education system we have now...come in inquisitive and out with a grade like a side of beef.
I like what Mark Twain said..."I never let schooling interfere with my education" To bad so many do.

But if we destroy ourselves it will not be total...there will be pockets of primitive people we failed to eliminate and the meek will inherit the earth.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
19. But once you are "pulled" from your car how do you change the camera direction?
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:02 PM
Jul 2015

You need some kind of Bluetooth device imbedded in your clothes that the camera can pair with and follow based on the Bluetooth signal.

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
9. Yup.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:22 PM
Jul 2015

Dashcam recorders are a start, but aren't going to discourage the most incorrigible cops. It's obvious they know what they need to do to render them ineffective.

tencats

(567 posts)
7. Has anything been reported yet about what her phone had recoreded?
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:14 PM
Jul 2015

Can't find anything having been released about this likely further recording of events.

This I find today reading at https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/07/22/did-sandra-bland-have-a-right-to-record-her-police-confrontation-maybe-not/

Dashboard video camera footage released online by the Texas Department of Public Safety, captured the tense confrontation.

"Get off the phone!" the officer, Brian Encinia, told Bland after she got out of the car.

"I'm not on the phone. I have a right to record, this is my property," Bland responded.

"Put your phone down, right now!" Encinia ordered.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. Need to file homocide charges. Have read it's being investigated as one.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jul 2015

Someone posted a youtube video thinking it meant she killed herself. That does not add up with the sounds on the arrest video. Nor this comport with the description of her situation as posted by niyad. She was an active, involved young lady who would have been an asset to any community she chose to live. She had a future ahead of her. She was well aware of her limitations in every way. I am from Texas and know of other 'suicides' in jail that are very suspicious.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
15. This may be why it is now treated as a murder case.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:41 PM
Jul 2015

He had a motive (her threat to report him), the means (abused power) and the opportunity ( a trafic stop) to kill her.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. I got something else that I have yet to hear other media point out
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:10 PM
Jul 2015

we did at my paper. She was never told why she was arrested

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
26. Yup and you are supposed to be told the primary charge
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:22 PM
Jul 2015

resisting arrest is an enhancement and cannot be the only charge.

I know, I know too much inside baseball

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
28. Right in your observations. I wondered the same thing about the pickup truck.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:29 PM
Jul 2015

Sandra Bland thanks someone for making a video. Can't wait to see that video.

The officer was very angry about the making of the video.

This scene is a cameo of what is wrong with our police state.

The officer loses his temper at the slightest expression of truth from his victim.

It's like he thinks he is the king's archer back in the Middle Ages. The arrogance is on the part of the officer, not on the part of Sandra Bland who is rightfully irritated at being stopped when she was trying to get out of the officer's way.

In cities, when there is a siren telling you an official ambulance or police or fire vehicle is headed your way, you are supposed to pull over immediately. You probably are supposed to signal that you are pulling away from the center of the street, but I can't imagine anyone being stopped because they did not signal that they were pulling over to make way for a police vehicle right behind them.

The entire stop was very strange.

Was he following her? Is that why she pulled over? What really happened before the stop?

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
30. I read somewhere that she was able to make a call from jail and told
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jul 2015

family her arm or shoulder may be broken. Maybe cops decided she was the one witness and had to go

retired rooster

(114 posts)
32. illegal u-turn
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:15 PM
Jul 2015

"a white pickup truck that makes an illegal u-turn past the traffic stop scene"

U-turns are legal in Texas unless otherwise posted.

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