Black pro-Confederate activist Anthony Hervy killed in Mississippi crash after apparent car chase

[DonViejo]

A black Mississippi man who was known for his outspoken support of the Confederate Flag died Sunday following a car crash that was the result of an apparent car chase.

According to the Jackson Clarion-Ledger, 49-year-old Anthony Hervey died Sunday from injuries sustained in a roll-over crash of the SUV he was driving. Hervey’s passenger, Arlene Barnum, has told police that their vehicle was being pursued at the time of the crash, which took place after a rally in Birmingham, Alabama in support of the Confederate Flag.

Hervey was a well-known personality in Oxford, the author of a 2006 book titled, Why I Wave the Confederate Flag, Written by a Black Man: The End of Ni**erism and the Welfare State. He would often dress in a Confederate soldier’s uniform and wave the “stars and bars” flag in Oxford’s town square, holding forth to onlookers about his views.

According to the book’s Amazon page:

What makes this book dangerous is its raw honesty. Mr. Hervey lifts the veil of Black decadence at the same time he exposes the lies and political correctness of modern day America. Mr. Hervey said “I show that the Civil War was not fought over slavery and that the demise of my race in America is not of the White man, but rather of our own making. In this book I show how Blacks in America ran away from physical bondage to one far worse– mental bondage.”

Barnum reportedly gave Hervey a ride to Birmingham for a pro-Confederate Flag rally and at around 11:20 on Sunday morning, the two were returning to Mississippi with Hervey at the wheel.

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Barnum told the newspaper that she and Hervey were not close, but that they are both black conservatives who are pro-Confederate Flag.

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http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/black-pro-confederate-activist-anthony-hervy-killed-in-mississippi-crash-after-apparent-car-chase/

[seveneyes]

1. The FBI and DOJ should be all over this investigation

His death and possible murder matters as much as any other innocent getting killed.

[Fred Sanders]

2. The FBI and DOJ do not investigate local car crash police chases. Some crazy requirement they call "evidence".

[seveneyes]

3. There may be evidence of murder and hate crime in this case

http://djournal.com/news/black-mississippi-flag-supporter-dies-in-traffic-accident/

A passenger in Harvey’s car, Arlene Barnum, tells The Associated Press that Hervey swerved and crashed after another vehicle carrying four or five young black men pulled up alongside them, yelling and looking angry. Barnum said Hervey yelled something back at the other vehicle before losing control and crashing.

“It spun like crazy and we flipped, flipped, flipped. It was awful,” she said.

She said she gave that account to a Mississippi state trooper when she was taken to a hospital after the accident.

The Mississippi Highway Patrol did not immediately respond to an Associated Press query asking if officials are investigating Barnum’s account.

[Fred Sanders]

4. Still exactly zero "evidence" of a hate crime. "Maybe" is maybe, but I am clearly missing something...like evidence.

[Democat]

7. If they are arguing over a flag, is it a hate crime?

What if they are arguing over a football team or a wallet?

[bluedigger]

5. There was no police chase.

Try reading the story.

[Fred Sanders]

6. Car chase it is! Just a regular car chase then! What difference does it make, still no evidence of a hate crime. Try logic.

Although implying a black-on-black hate crime is an interesting conclusion because....reasons. A wild goose chase, for sure.

[Igel]

10. Interesting asymmetry.

I like asymmetries. Chomsky always liked to point out that they reveal underlying structure. That was linguist Chomsky, not necessarily activist Chomsky.

If it had been a car flying the Conf. flag and the flipped car had black driver/passenger, "hate crime" would, I think, be discussed as a viable option. Among many, the preferred option. Who needs evidence? We have suspicions and doubts.

Not sure if we'd hear much about it if it were just two cars and no Conf. flag involved, esp. if everybody was just white or just black. Perhaps if the victims were black and the silver, pursuing car had whites in it. I think it less likely we'd hear about it if the victims were white and the pursuing car only had blacks in it.

My first reaction is, "Mistaken identity." They didn't know, at first, that those sporting the Conf. flag were black. It was a car chase, after all. Then again, there are a lot of solidarity issues involving the flag, and in-group solidarity too often requires conformity, or provokes anger at those violating community norms.

More than one AfAm DUer has been really pissed at, say, SCOTUS judge Thomas for violating community norms and resorted to the language of group solidarity in expressing it.

[bluedigger]

14. That was never my conclusion.

And I have no idea why you would want to infer that. I wouldn't even call it a chase. Nothing wrong with my logic, but your's seems a little shaky.

[Igel]

8. They can.

If there's a reason for them to assume jurisdiction. "Evidence" isn't it. That can be because it's part of a larger pattern that crosses state lines, because the crime is ultimately best pursued as a federal one, or because the locals do nothing effective and a federal charge can substitute.

They're sometimes called in for assistance, though. As in Hempstead.

[craigmatic]

9. People are tired of being fucked over and discriminated against and people enabling that to happen.

I would not have done this but i do understand people being tired of sell outs and this guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong message. There's only so long you can provoke people and this guy clearly thought there was never going to be a day where he wouldn't face reprisals.

[Uncle Joe]

11. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, DonViejo.

[GreatGazoo]

12. Paging Dave Chapelle! You can't make this stuff up. Ugh.

check YouTube for

Dave Chappelle The Black White Supremacist Full Video

[el_bryanto]

13. It's an interesting story when you put it with the Black Lives Matter / Bernie Sanders story

White America does need to do a better job of listening to the experience of Black Americans - but here's someone espousing views that most of us if not all of us would reject out of hand.

Bryant

[irisblue]

15. local newspaper says Mississippi Highway Patrol are investigating

Last edited Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:45 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.mcalesternews.com/news/update-man-who-was-with-stuart-woman-in-accident-after/article_7d867ed4-2e70-11e5-82df-1fcf5567ace2.html

This is going to be very interesting, I agree with seveneyes, the FBI & DOJ really need to be there.

[Comrade Grumpy]

16. It's okay this black guy got killed. He had bad poltiics.

[irisblue]

17. what?! no it's not okay anyone gets killed b/c politics

did you forget a sarcasm tag?

[Comrade Grumpy]

19. Yes, I should have used a sarcasm tag.

[LanternWaste]

22. Or the Devolution of Otherwise Valid Conversation tag...

Or the Devolution of Otherwise Valid Conversation tag...

[tenderfoot]

18. Sounds to me like he thought he was above the law...

and could get away with leading the cops on a chase.

[Comrade Grumpy]

20. He wasn't being chased by cops, but by four young black men.

[irisblue]

21. where did you see that?

[Go Vols]

23. in this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6991468

[irisblue]

24. that's odd, i can't see #3, and seveneyes is NOT on my block list

in fact #2-#8 aren't showing up. Thanks for letting me know GV. Off to find Elad