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The Iran nuclear deal that could prevent a war must have evoked another deal to end a war almost 50 years ago in the Secretary of State.
John Kerry was angry.
Listen to this. Listen to what Trump just said about John McCain, Kerry was saying over the phone. Hes not a war hero. Hes a war hero because he was captured. I like people who werent captured.
Thats unbelievable, Kerry said. Thats beyond outrageous.
John and I have some serious differences on a lot of things but he is nothing other than a hero and a good man. Where was Trump when John got shot down over North Vietnam? In school? At a party? Where was he?
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/19/trump-awakens-kerry-s-vietnam-anger-with-slam-on-mccain.html
angryvet
(181 posts)would have jumped to defend John Kerry, Matt Cleland and Tammy Duckworth. They are all claiming you don't do this to veterans!!!
Oh like what they've done to Democrats! F'ing hypocrites.
But John Kerry showed what a true hero he is.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)(but it's Max Cleland, not Matt) .
Kingofalldems
(38,500 posts)So he just couldn't make it to Viet Nam.
Paladin
(28,280 posts)And Trump was the RICHEST guy there! And he had a really HIGH draft number! And besides all that, he thought that war was WRONG!
So glad to see John Kerry making a statement on all this.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)What a scary thought. That chickenhawk blowhard could have gotten a lot of us killed.
SunSeeker
(51,771 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Mr. Rangel served in the Korean War; I served in the Vietnam War.
George II
(67,782 posts)progressoid
(50,008 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)I am glad SOS Kerry weighed in.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Hatchling
(2,323 posts)I had a boyfriend who never returned from that war.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)My first crush in HS went and did not come back, but went out saving others.
GEORGE INGALLS, MEDAL OF HONOR RECEIPIENT:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Alan_Ingalls
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)They're all in the trash can together.
The biggest War Hawks...who are all chicken shit.
And now they are going to wear their draft dodging as a badge of honor???
That is some fucked up thinking.
George II
(67,782 posts)Siwsan
(26,310 posts)He's insulting every soldier, sailor, airman or marine, past and present, who was ever held in a POW camp. The ones who survived and the ones who didn't.
"He's insulting every..."
Absolutely!
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)IMO they're only piling onto Chief Clown Trump in the hopes of ending his campaign. Veterans are just their most convenient excuse.
Gothmog
(145,751 posts)ejbr
(5,857 posts)he probably did. But anyhoo, when it comes to being a hero Trump needs to STFU.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Initech
(100,118 posts)Where was the god damn media when George Bush was being aided by the smear group "Swift Boar Veterans For Truth"??? If I remember Fox News was promoting that bullshit garbage 24/7. Shut the fuck up Fox News. You get zero right to criticize Trump. ZERO.
mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Disagree politicqlly woth McCain yes. Swiftboaters NO!
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Ilsa
(61,709 posts)Would vote for that piece of bat guana. He obviously has no respect for military.
He'll start wars left and right with his lack of diplomatic skills.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)I am humbled and proud to have worked for him. There are none finer.
tavernier
(12,410 posts)If Trump gets as far as the elections, we should all plaster bandaids on our fingers to show his pain for counting money.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)liberal from boston
(856 posts)IMO, This is also be a big problem for Jeb Bush. Below is link to a DU post earlier: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026988176
George II
(67,782 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)I don't recall McCain stepping up for John Kerry during the swiftboaters' full-court press against him, which led to the purple-heart bandaids & other nonsense.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Not as often or as forcefully as he could have, but he did defend Kerry publicly.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)mylye2222
(2,992 posts)As McCain should have done it more forcefully he spoke out in defense of JK more than, in a paradox way , the Clintons...
dsc
(52,172 posts)something you should have known.
blm
(113,122 posts)Bush and Rove got to McCain in an effort to keep him marginalized - McCain did what he always does - rolled over for the Bushes.
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)where he mentioned this, so there are likely other sources as well.
More from the Cole piece - and I wholeheartedly agree with this:
It is worth noting that the only brush with the military Trump ever had came when he was expelled from middle school for behavioral problems at age 13 and was placed by his parents in the New York Military Academy in hopes that it could straighten him out (obviously it couldnt).
There is no shame in having been against the Vietnam War (I was, too), the reason Trump gives for having sought student deferments. But people who havent been in war, in my view, are not in a position to question the valor of people who have. Someone who served in a war can be wrong about politics and then we should argue with them on political grounds. But if we werent there, we dont know the test of character they faced and cant speak to that.
http://www.juancole.com/2015/07/swiftboats-mccain-swiftboated.html
pacalo
(24,721 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but, unlike a lot of chicken Hawks, he actually went to a war zone. They didn't shoot him down with spitballs.
frankieallen
(583 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Give him all the attention he craves. Just make sure he is tied to the GOP. Every Time.
(now if you are a republican, you definitely don't want to give Trumplican any media attention....)
dieter
(94 posts)pocoloco
(3,180 posts)Little fucking late!
Where was that anger when he was being swiftboated?
MADem
(135,425 posts)mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Please consider self delete.